Stunts, Blunts & Basketball: The 2013-14 New York Knicks Season Thread

[Trip]

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Why are you always talking like Melos knick era was a Failure ? I guess the best season in forever was a mirage .... And as great as we act like Donnie Walsh was none of those players have turned out to be better than Melo . And as far as trading for dwill like others said we should of tried to do instead of Melo he hasn't done anything in the Tristate area to show he's better than Melo . There's only one bron/ prime Kobe every other is comparable to Melo

I'm not saying it's a failure. It depends on what you deem "failure" Compared to what the Knicks have been, its a lot better. There's a definitive ceiling for this team though, and that's regardless of Lebron James being in his prime or not.

Player, talent wise without the money being a factor of course you deal Melo for Gallo, Felton and Wilson....but contracts in the NBA matter. Depth matters. If Melo came to the Knicks as a FA, we'd be in a different spot. According to most we lost to the Pacers because Melo didnt have enough help. Those guys would have been help.

Now he's pulling the same shyt after we gave up half of the roster for him? fukk that.

 

[23Barrettcity]

That's logical. I will still root for our squad if there were a bunch of Poindexters playing that Jazz basketball.

Either way, I am going to enjoy this season. More moves and the unexpected are bound to happen with this team.

He's not being logical . The scoring champ hasn't been a nontop 10 player in forever . You can't just dismiss that as not being valuable . Only the Knicks can have the best season in forever and have the thread be filled with negative nonsense . Melo should of been quiet

 

[ThaBronxBully]

"I'm in New York. Like I said, this is not something that I want to keep going on," Anthony said. "At the end of the day, I don't want to go anywhere, I don't plan on going anywhere. But when that time comes, I'll deal with that situation."

ESPN.com reported over the summer that theLos Angeles Lakers would target Anthony andLeBron James in the summer of 2014 if both stars decide to explore free agency.

"What other team would they [the media] say?" Anthony said of the Lakers. "I don't think they would say any other team. If you look at situations, that's the only team that they probably would say."

 

[23Barrettcity]

I'm not saying it's a failure. It depends on what you deem "failure" Compared to what the Knicks have been, its a lot better. There's a definitive ceiling for this team though, and that's regardless of Lebron James being in his prime or not.

Player, talent wise without the money being a factor of course you deal Melo for Gallo, Felton and Wilson....but contracts in the NBA matter. Depth matters. If Melo came to the Knicks as a FA, we'd be in a different spot. According to most we lost to the Pacers because Melo didnt have enough help. Those guys would have been help.

Now he's pulling the same shyt after we gave up half of the roster for him? fukk that.

http://www.newsday.com/sports/baske...t-out-but-wants-to-stay-with-knicks-1.6272363
Melo clarified he wants to stay a knick this morning .
And we lost because Melo didn't shoot 45% / was injured , jr was hurt , Woodson got out coached and last but not least chandler completely shyt the bed . We had the pieces but wasn't used properly by the coaching staff ( copeland Novak ) and the personnel didn't perform .

 

[Cory MBA]

He's not being logical . The scoring champ hasn't been a nontop 10 player in forever . You can't just dismiss that as not being valuable . Only the Knicks can have the best season in forever and have the thread be filled with negative nonsense . Melo should of been quiet

I try to respect everyone's opinion...I just have to disagree with Trip. I reiterate, personally I do not want to go back to having a laughable starting five in order to have a balanced budget. I don't rock with the Tea Party in politics or in basketball.

Melo could have been quiet but such is the nature of SuperStar athletes. We have to take the good along with the choices we disagree with. Kobe also stated that he would not take a pay cut. That doesn't make it the perfect choice for the Knicks organization...but he cannot just let the Front Office low ball him either. I would not respect a man that caters in that fashion to a business organization, knowing that the enterprise will throw him in the bushes without hesitation.

Melo has to do whats best for Melo. In the end, the max deal will be best for him. There is a risk in staying and leaving. There is no guarantee of success with any choice. He could leave to play with another star and an injury can happen to set that franchise in jeopardy for the season.

This season will have it surprises, like every other season.

 

[23Barrettcity]

"I'm in New York. Like I said, this is not something that I want to keep going on," Anthony said. "At the end of the day, I don't want to go anywhere, I don't plan on going anywhere. But when that time comes, I'll deal with that situation."

ESPN.com reported over the summer that theLos Angeles Lakers would target Anthony andLeBron James in the summer of 2014 if both stars decide to explore free agency.

"What other team would they [the media] say?" Anthony said of the Lakers. "I don't think they would say any other team. If you look at situations, that's the only team that they probably would say."[/quote]
This is true and what I been saying . What can the lakers offer Melo ? His wife being there ? She also comes to NYC he has places here . In la the lakers will be worse than the clippers most likely for the foreseeable future And Kobe's coming off a big injury . I doubt Melo wants to go to a worse team than Knicks to share the spotlight with the clippers and Kobe plus be in Kobe's shadow and be on a bad team . Doesn't make sense

 

[K-ZOE]

Gallo and Wilson wouldnt have helped shyt last season. Both them mufukkas are inconsistent and both were hurt. Gallo still hasnt began running. Even Stat can say he's doing better than that. Neither player wouldve been able to supplant JR as the second best player last year. I'd also argue for Ray being on par or better than either. This year? Neither would even be a guaranteed starter. This the 2nd time I've read on here mufukkas lamenting trading these 2 humps. I NEED IT TO STOP.
Lastly, how can anyone with a brain watch Melo now and think he won't still be a top player at 34? He won't even have to change his game!! He'll be a lil slower and probably a full time 4. Smart dumb mufukkas are the worst!

 

[Trip]

http://www.newsday.com/sports/baske...t-out-but-wants-to-stay-with-knicks-1.6272363
Melo clarified he wants to stay a knick this morning .
And we lost because Melo didn't shoot 45% / was injured , jr was hurt , Woodson got out coached and last but not least chandler completely shyt the bed . We had the pieces but wasn't used properly by the coaching staff ( copeland Novak ) and the personnel didn't perform .

The "we missed shots we usually make" reasoning/excuse is bullshyt.

 

[K-ZOE]

The "we missed shots we usually make" reasoning/excuse is bullshyt.

Word? So how does a team overcome this when it happens? Especially when your defensive anchor is a shell of himself during the series? And all your bigs are old and hurt. Please try to answer based in reality. I don't want to hear what the Knicks should or should not have done in the first place in your opinion.

 

[Trip]

Word? So how does a team overcome this when it happens? Especially when your defensive anchor is a shell of himself during the series? And all your bigs are old and hurt. Please try to answer based in reality. I don't want to hear what the Knicks should or should not have done in the first place in your opinion.

Stop being so heavily reliant on the jump shot. Statistically, there's a very good chance the Knicks dont shoot as well as they did last year by the law of averages. It's concerning.

 

[23Barrettcity]

The "we missed shots we usually make" reasoning/excuse is bullshyt.

I didn't even say that . And I listed a bunch of reasons and none of which was we need more help . Melo being hurt was a bigger reason for his play than anything the guy was missing wide open transition threes and couldn't even finish inside not to mention his midrange game was off . I guess the pacers had a game plan to stop open shots ??? I feel despite that we could have won if instead of blinking and switching line ups Woodson let cope get more playing time early in the series seeing how jr was sucking

 

[K-ZOE]

Stop being so heavily reliant on the jump shot. Statistically, there's a very good chance the Knicks dont shoot as well as they did last year by the law of averages. It's concerning.

By doing what? More post play? More penetration? I need a solution not a broad generalization. You might as well have said "by making better plays".

 

[mvp_status]

Player, talent wise without the money being a factor of course you deal Melo for Gallo, Felton and Wilson....but contracts in the NBA matter. Depth matters. If Melo came to the Knicks as a FA, we'd be in a different spot. According to most we lost to the Pacers because Melo didnt have enough help. Those guys would have been help.

If y'all are playing the hindsight game then that trade was essentially Carmelo & Tyson Chandler for Gallo, Mozgov, & Wilson (who was a FA anyway)

 

[Trip]

By doing what? More post play? More penetration? I need a solution not a broad generalization. You might as well have said "by making better plays".

You know the game of basketball- you can figure it out. If the only reason teams lost games was because they missed shots they usually make, no one would ever be held accountable.

 

[K-ZOE]

You know the game of basketball- you can figure it out. If the only reason teams lost games was because they missed shots they usually make, no one would ever be held accountable.

No one is held more accountable than the NY Knicks.


I don't feel that's the only reason the team lost and the poster you quoted didnt say that either. You said that. You throw out opinions and pretend they're facts. There were a number of reasons NY lost. 1, being our 2 top guns shooting percentages were down. 2, we were defensively challenged which I pointed out. 3, we got out-coached which 23Stat already pointed out. You said fukk all that, I wanna pretend someone said something about missing shots we normally make.