Gizmo_Duck
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I think if anything DA4 sounds like theyre scaling back the rpg mechanics of it. Everything that leaked points to it going more casual
Studios consider Baldur’s Gate 3 anomaly : “It’s Rockstar-level nonsense for scope” Update: Confirmed Blassic
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I think if anything DA4 sounds like theyre scaling back the rpg mechanics of it. Everything that leaked points to it going more casual
The little addition of that toggle to show 'all skin colors' combined with a studio that... ya know... puts a bit of work in to make dark skin tones not look muted, or muddled, or just fukking bad... it opens the possibility to make a 'black' version of basically anything. I've been greatly enjoying being a darkskined half-elf with cornrows and a neck tattoo. Because I was able to make that character in a game and not have the game punish me for making such a thing by having them show up in cutscenes looking ugly as fukk compared to Caucasian NPC Extra #7881 in the way background looking like he got two extra rendering passes than my protagonist did.
Gizmo_Duck
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I wish i saved some screen shots, i had the “dream girl” character looking bad af too, like coco jones
would fit BiowEAre's MO - funnel money from mechanics and playtesting to marketing; counterbalance by shaving down the experience to best appeal to the exact market that doesn't give a fukk about your 'dumb elves and magic' game in the first place.
I'd be surprised if that wasn't the case, tbh.
My mans. They overhauled that character - announced in the recent update. Rewrote the whole character storyline of who that was and how they interact with your character.I wish i saved some screen shots, i had the “dream girl” character looking bad af too, like coco jones
Told me I need to not spend sub-5 minutes ol girl in character creation like I usually do because creation fatigue has hit, I've been in creator for over an hour on my main and the 'down by the river' song got me halfway to relaxed sleep. On full release I'll probably just accept my first game session is going to be entirely character creator and let Early Access metagame knowledge help me speedrun my way to at least level 3.
Already accepting I might not have the patience and run a concurrent Dark Urge playthrough so the internet doesn't spoil it before I get around to it.
Gizmo_Duck
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Yeah, im assuming a lot changed since I played EA, which was last year May. Thats why i tried not to get too deep into it, i never really play early access shyt for that reason.
Piff Perkins
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I was very skeptical when it was first revealed since I dislike the art style (seeing semi realistic 3D renders of D&D races is just ugly lol). But since then it's been clear this is legit, and worthy of being a sequel to the earlier classic iterations. I haven't played the demo but will be copping this sometime in the fall. Not first week since I still gotta give Diablo 4 some time.
Hopeofmypeople
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RPG Developers are getting scared about what Larian is doing with this game. shyt is going to be goatee
Why devs consider Baldur’s Gate 3 anomaly, not new standard for RPG genre: “It’s Rockstar-level nonsense for scope” | Game World Observer
A few weeks prior to its launch, Baldur’s Gate 3 looks like one of the most promising RPGs in recent memory. However, some devs are urging players not to rate all other games in the genre by such a high standard, appealing to Larian Studios’ unique combination of vast experience and resources.gameworldobserver.com
Everyone’s like chill with using Baldurs Gate 3 as a baseline for upcoming RPG’s, we ain’t built like that
You could tell this game was going to kick ass and take names by the confidence Swen has been swaggering around with. It’s crazy how they are still an independent studio but able to fund large projects like this. Some of what’s been put out there are partially false, for example the developments time has been cited when people ignore the fact that Covid happened which would have put things to a crawl. I am very excited for this because it seems like the options available to you as a player will be insane to the point no one can legitimately say they have completed this game on just solely one play-through.
Gizmo_Duck
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It actually turns out tencent owns a big chunk of them
Hopeofmypeople
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Wasn’t aware, just knew them from being very successful when it came to crowd funding.
Gizmo_Duck
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Yeah, i think it might be somewhat recent
A rare case of 'underpromise and overdeliver' in an industry that generally does the exact. fukking. opposite as a rite of course.
That's what the industry needs to learn from this. Not the fukking scope, or the reactivity. But how to make a thing for an audience outside of your dev studio and how to complete that thing without torpedoing your fanbase through shady practices and broken promises for the sake of 'hype'.
Less than the sprawl or the depth or the nuance, that's what other devs need to be taking from this. Don't try and assemble massive teams and try and just crib Larian - learn from what they did outside of the 'making the game' part. Because that's subjective and everyone's way is gonna be different. BG3 was developed different from all Larian's other games, too for that matter. But the way they interacted with their base, the transparency with the community and the pains gone through to make sure people always knew they were working so people never questioned it enough to check out and never check back in.
Seems simple, but... plenty of games could have learned from the 'shut the fukk up until you have something to show, and when you do... show it to people' approach. And they weren't afraid to course-correct when they did show something and people had issues with it.
Devs obfuscate everything they're doing, then get deep in their pride about their precious mechanic once they finally do get feedback, and... you end up with flops. Or fundamental gameplay foundations that just don't work or aren't fun.
'Kill your darlings' is a quote from Stephen King about writing as a concept. If the thing you love doesn't serve the story anymore: kill it. In service of the whole. There were whole mechanics that got excised from this to make the game better. And there were others that had to be scrapped and rebuilt. For the sake of the whole.
Seems simple, but... plenty of games could have learned from the 'shut the fukk up until you have something to show, and when you do... show it to people' approach. And they weren't afraid to course-correct when they did show something and people had issues with it.
Devs obfuscate everything they're doing, then get deep in their pride about their precious mechanic once they finally do get feedback, and... you end up with flops. Or fundamental gameplay foundations that just don't work or aren't fun.
'Kill your darlings' is a quote from Stephen King about writing as a concept. If the thing you love doesn't serve the story anymore: kill it. In service of the whole. There were whole mechanics that got excised from this to make the game better. And there were others that had to be scrapped and rebuilt. For the sake of the whole.
That's what the industry needs to learn from this. Not the fukking scope, or the reactivity. But how to make a thing for an audience outside of your dev studio and how to complete that thing without torpedoing your fanbase through shady practices and broken promises for the sake of 'hype'.
honestly just 30 minutes into the early access debut was more than enough to convince me they had all the answers 
Gizmo_Duck
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Baldur's Gate 3 contains 174 hours of possible cutscenes and 17,000 ending variations
You won't see all of the cutscenes in a single playthrough (which Larian claims will take about 75-100 hours). It's all there to support the vast array of different player choices and backgrounds.
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Such an annoying and obvious misleading stat