STOP THE LIES! BLACK PEOPLE NEVER SUPPORTED THE 94 CRIME BILL

[TRY GOD]

What exactly was in the 1994 crime bill you take issue with? Like what policy did it implement that you have an issue with? Cuz you’re kind of all over the place, to the point that I don’t think you know what it actually did.

no you're all over the place, because you're moving the goalposts about how bad the 94 crime bill was to Black Americans.

 

[TRY GOD]

Y'ALL WEREN'T EVEN ALIVE.

THAT shyt NEEDED TO HAPPEN. WE HAD STONE COLD KILLERS FRESH OFF THEIR 4TH AND 5TH BIDS DROPPING BODIES FOR NO REASON. THAT shyt HAD TO STOP.

what does that have to do with how bad the 94 crime bill was? If you read the first post it says that nobody black supported Joe biden's 94 crime bill. We just wanted help in our communities; unfortunately this is what we got.

 

[TRY GOD]

@Warren Moon , do you have any answers?

 

[staticshock]

well black people in America have, our uncles and aunts and cousins and nieces and nephews siblings grandparents and parents, best friends, etc

Have all been affected by this law. But of course you don't care about it.

there's literally a movie with one of Mike Epps first roles, called 3 strikes named after this law during that time period, try again.

man shut the fukk up. Nobody in my family has ever “been impacted by this law” cause nobody in my family has ever gotten arrested more than once or spent years in prison


You know you’re a dumbass when @Stick Up Kid is in here making more sense than you

 

[TRY GOD]

man shut the fukk up


You know you’re a dumbass when @Stick Up Kid is in here making more sense than you

Why are you blowing up my inbox with your stupidity, don't @ if you don't have anything to fukking say

 

[MR. SNIFLES]

what does that have to do with how bad the 94 crime bill was? If you read the first post it says that nobody black supported Joe biden's 94 crime bill. We just wanted help in our communities; unfortunately this is what we got.

THE BILL WASN'T BAD. ENFORCEMENT WAS BAD. THE PROBLEM CAME WHEN RECORDER"S COURT WAS ROLLED INTO COUNTY AND STATE COURTS. THAT'S WHEN BLACK JURIES DISAPPEARED AND TRIALS FOR WHAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN MAJOR MISDEMEANORS GOT BUMPED TO MINOR FELONIES WITH LITTLE JAIL TIME. THE DA WOULD SHOW THEM THOSE ALL WHITE JURIES THEY WOULD COP TO A FELONY WITH LITTLE TIME. THEY WOULD SEE IT AS A WIN BUT THAT'S STRIKE 1. WELCOME TO THE SYSTEM.

STUFF LIKE THAT HAPPENED ALL AROUND THE COUNTRY. THAT WAS THE STATES' FAULT. THE MOMENT THAT HAPPENED BLACK VOTERS SHOULD HAVE CLEANED HOUSE AND SET THE EXAMPLE THAT WE HAVE NO PROBLEM COMMITTING POLITICAL HOMICIDE AGAINST ANY AND ALL POLITICIANS WHO LET STUFF LIKE THAT HAPPEN. WE DROPPED THE BALL.

 

[shopthatwrecks]

 

[Worthless Loser]

These tragedies not only affected its victims, but they also cultivated a culture of fear. In a 1994 Children’s Defense Fund survey of black children ages 11 to 17 over three-fourths listed school violence as a serious problem; 70 percent named guns; and 64 percent identified dangerous neighborhoods. These dangers also impacted the daily habits of many African Americans. A 1994 New York Times survey of New Yorkers revealed that because of this insecurity 72 percent of blacks “had avoided places they used to go.” Another 59 percent reported that they “go out less at night” and 45 percent said that they “ride the subway less.”

It is no wonder that many African Americans had started to embrace punitive prescriptions by 1994. In the General Social Survey, black support for the death penalty for individuals convicted of murder increased from 39 percent in 1980 to 53.5 percent in 1992. African Americans certainly supported rehabilitation more than whites and desired gun control. Many were also clear-eyed about racial disparities in the criminal justice system. According to a 1994 Los Angeles Times poll, 43 percent of African Americans believed that stricter laws and prison sentences would increase discrimination against minority groups. Still, concern about racism and liberal tendencies did not curtail black support for punishment. In that same poll, 71 percent of blacks said that juveniles who commit crimes should be treated as adults, and 67 percent supported proposals that would require “any criminal convicted of three violent felonies be imprisoned for life without the possibility of parole.”

Other surveys confirm these trends. In a Wall Street Journal/NBC survey, majorities of racial minorities supported adding 100,000 more police officers on the streets, allowing juveniles as young as 14 to be tried as adults when accused of a serious crime, and making more offenses eligible for the death penalty. A 1994 Time/CNN poll showed that, while only 33 percent of African Americans supported stop and frisk, 64.5 percent favored “life imprisonment for anyone convicted of three serious crimes” and 79 percent supported a 10pm curfew for children under the age of 18. Based her analysis of this survey, Katherine Tate, an expert on African American politics at Brown University, concluded that black opinion “favored the conservative elements of Clinton’s crime bill.”

Bill Clinton Was Right: Blacks Supported the Crime Bill (And that Should Surprise No One) | History News Network

The culture and attitudes on crime back then was much different than today because the crime rates were higher back then.

 

[T’Challa’s Heir]

no you're all over the place, because you're moving the goalposts about how bad the 94 crime bill was to Black Americans.

Ive only posted once in this thread. So I can’t be all over the thread. What specifically in the 94 crime bill do you have a problem with?

 

[Dzali OG]

Y'ALL WEREN'T EVEN ALIVE.

THAT shyt NEEDED TO HAPPEN. WE HAD STONE COLD KILLERS FRESH OFF THEIR 4TH AND 5TH BIDS DROPPING BODIES FOR NO REASON. THAT shyt HAD TO STOP.

Tell em...

If you weren't there for the late 80s and early 90s, you have no idea.

Imagine every city with sizable black communities being as lit as Chicago is now. shyt happening like, you're walking in the wrong neighborhood and goons run up and shoot you for just being there.

Imagine not being able to wear your gucci belt, or whatever else namebrand clothing you had cause nikkas would str8 up kill you and take it.

Ot was on another level then. It's bad now, but it was more evil then. I swear!

 

[Billy Ocean]

none yall ever heard of the crime bill until Trump brought it up in 2016

Truth.

 

[UberEatsDriver]

Black people never supported it?


Just about every grown black person in NYC who is 50+ have told me otherwise.


Not sure what y’all trying to do here but just accept it and move on. It’s much easier to say this nonsense now because crime is nowhere near the levels of what it was back then

had this convo with an old head 3 months ago how ironic.

 

[hashmander]

what does that have to do with the devastation that the crime Bill caused to black Americans?


why are you denigrating the amount of damage this bill has done the black people in America?

so the devastation didn't occur before 2016 because it didn't have your attention? it only became a devastation after you received your black voter suppression talking points from the trump campaign.

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

Thread premise is nonsense.​

We asked for help and supported that Bill. Our communities were, literally, under siege from Crack/gang violence and the in-place guidelines for incarceration were seemingly giving murderers less time than shoplifters. We did NOT support the extras attached to the Bill to get it to pass.

This revisionist history being foisted by OP won't work when many of us who were there are still here to tell you how it REALLY was.​

 

[Eclipser]

none yall ever heard of the crime bill until Trump brought it up in 2016

Running for president leads to increased scrutiny of your political record? Who'd have thought?