Stimulus & Bailout Watch Thread

[Joe Sixpack]

Yo.

Mittens is a conservative and all that but he’s a decent human being in my eyes

 

[MeachTheMonster]

Eh. I feel that childcare is one area where “you get what you pay for” doesn’t always apply. Of course make sure they are licensed, but otherwise I’d go by observation.

Quality care costs money. To charge a lower price corners have to be cut somewhere. Lower priced centers have less resources

 

[Mr.Plan B]

People in major cities been getting screwed by this from jump

and young teachers may do all that but those who are settled and parents themselves aren’t. I’ve watched a lot of my friends go from teacher-after school program counselor-tutor-summer school teacher to just teacher when they had kids.

either way, I don’t care what income you make, if you’re still making your full income, you don’t need a check, just like I don’t care what income you made before, if you’ve lost income, you should get a check. At this point in the pandemic, it’s clear this is a stratified crisis, it’s not like last spring when it felt like the whole economy was gonna collapse so let’s send money everywhere. We know who has been impacted, support them, support states, support frontline workers (they’ve become a lost talking point in all this) and KIM. Everyone wants free money, I get it, especially since the govt hands out money to corporations like candy, but beyond tit for tat, aid should be focused on those impacted only, regardless of what their 2018/2019 taxes say.

Who the hell do you think you are to make that statement. You don't think the folks who kept their job haven't been the backbone of their family? Giving handouts helping to make payments. Of anything they need it more!

 

[Rawtid]

Quality care costs money. To charge a lower price corners have to be cut somewhere. Lower priced centers have less resources

I disagree. "Quality" as it pertains to childcare is not directly related to cost. A center located in/near a popular shopping area is going to have higher overhead costs, which will be passed into the price, but doesn't mean your child's overall experience is going to be better.

Being good with children is based on individuals, their interests and overall efforts, not price. In terms of "resources", pre-school children don't need fancy technology to learn, so I'm not sure what resources you're referring to. All licensed centers have staff to children ratio requirements.

Again, this is all based on my experience with my provider who is now one of my best friends. She has always provided quality, affordable, childcare and been a blessing to her parents. She has a very "We all we got" attitude and I appreciate it.

 

[DJ Paul's Arm]

Who the hell do you think you are to make that statement. You don't think the folks who kept their job haven't been the backbone of their family? Giving handouts helping to make payments. Of anything they need it more!

Word

Those Walmart Neighborhood Market employees who never stopped working during this pandemic deserve those checks and more. The fukk kind of logic is that.

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

Who the hell do you think you are to make that statement. You don't think the folks who kept their job haven't been the backbone of their family? Giving handouts helping to make payments. Of anything they need it more!

i'm dora stating my opinion on a fukking message board...who the fukk are you to try to tell me what opinions i can have? FOH

lol @ them needing it more than people who lost jobs and businesses

 

[Mr.Plan B]

i'm dora stating my opinion on a fukking message board...who the fukk are you to try to tell me what opinions i can have? FOH

lol @ them needing it more than people who lost jobs and businesses

You got it, champ. As long as you know how selfish that statement sounded, you can think whatever you want

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

You got it, champ. As long as you know how selfish that statement sounded, you can think whatever you want

how is it selfish? yall nikkas in here arguing for non impacted people to get checks simply because yall want free money.

i'm of the mind it should go to all or only go to those who have lost income, regardless of their income level pre-covid...how yall feel hurt by that, i don't know. shyt don't affect me either way

 

[MeachTheMonster]

I disagree. "Quality" as it pertains to childcare is not directly related to cost. A center located in/near a popular shopping area is going to have higher overhead costs, which will be passed into the price, but doesn't mean your child's overall experience is going to be better.

Being good with children is based on individuals, their interests and overall efforts, not price. In terms of "resources", pre-school children don't need fancy technology to learn, so I'm not sure what resources you're referring to. All licensed centers have staff to children ratio requirements.

Again, this is all based on my experience with my provider who is now one of my best friends. She has always provided quality, affordable, childcare and been a blessing to her parents. She has a very "We all we got" attitude and I appreciate it.

You’re experience is yours alone. But you are objectively incorrect.

Experienced and educated teachers cost money.

Lesson planners and therapists cost money.

Quality and well maintained facilities cost money.

Being in a good neighborhood offers more opportunities for field trips and doing things with/within the community.

The lists goes on and on.

Hell in your last post you talked about all the extra costs your daycare had to incur to provide quality care during Covid.

Now you wanna say “quality” care is not related to cost.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

how is it selfish? yall nikkas in here arguing for non impacted people to get checks simply because yall want free money.

i'm of the mind it should go to all or only go to those who have lost income, regardless of their income level pre-covid...how yall feel hurt by that, i don't know. shyt don't affect me either way

Problem is, it would cost more time and money to figure out “who lost income” than it would to just send the checks.

In the meantime while this dumb ass argument is going on people are actually starving.

If a couple extra people get a couple extra dollars they don’t need than so what, Covid or not it’s long overdue the middle class got a boost.

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

Problem is, it would cost more time and money to figure out “who lost income” than it would to just send the checks.

In the meantime while this dumb ads argument is going on people are actually starving.

If a couple extra people get a couple extra dollars they don’t need than so what, Covid or not it’s long overdue the middle class got a boost.

the quick and dirty way to do it is give it to those who filed for UI and/or possibly PPP & their associated payrolls...it doesnt catch everyone just like the current method doesn't, but nothing is perfect unless you give it to every person which isnt on the table

 

[AquaCityBoy]

We've had essential workers risking catching covid for the last year and never getting the hazard pay they deserved but somehow they're 'non-impacted' people.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

the quick and dirty way to do it is give it to those who filed for UI...it doesnt catch everyone just like the current method doesn't, but nothing is perfect unless you give it to every person which isnt on the table

You’d be missing lost of people.

This would be the dumbest plan I’ve heard so far

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

You’d be missing lost of people.

This would be the dumbest plan I’ve heard so far

and the current method misses a lot of people. i get many of yall live where it's cheap, but california has a lot of ver middle and working class people impacted who don't qualify for aid simply due to this stupid income cap, yet they filed for UI which would capture them

 

[MeachTheMonster]

and the current method misses a lot of people. i get many of yall live where it's cheap, but california has a lot of ver middle and working class people impacted who don't qualify for aid simply due to this stupid income cap, yet they filed for UI which would capture them

I don’t think the income limits should be lowered. If anything they should take cost of living into consideration.

nothing is perfect I just would err on the side some people getting extra money as opposed to scrutinizing it so much we miss people. We don’t do this much scrutinizing when sending off billions to rich people.