Stimulus & Bailout Watch Thread

[I Really Mean It]

Its jobs out here breh I feel for them but

Unless you made I think 50k or so that extra 600 was a pay raise. Should have saved it. if you had a job making 50k I would imagine it required some degree of knowledge or skill that you could lateral into another job in said field or another.

Depends on where you live. I’m in Boston, in a state sitting among those with the highest unemployment in the nation. I know quite a few people who made above 50k that are still unemployed, a result of the strict shutdown policy instituted by Governor Baker and the amount of competition for jobs in this area. Demand is high and availability is slim.

Sure, those people can go work at Amazon or Whole Foods, but the wages of those two aren’t going to help them keep pace with the lifestyle - and spending - their former job assisted with. That’s the problem. How do these people pay their mortgage when the moratorium is over? How do they pay their car note? Their children’s healthcare? Summer camp? Home repairs?

Entire lifestyles have been uprooted by these shutdowns, which the $600 was meant to compensate for.

That retroactive payment better occur or the Democrats have a problem in 2022.

 

[88m3]

my takeaway too, still sucks

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

That retroactive payment better occur or the Democrats have a problem in 2022.

So you're not happy with the plan and instead of getting something out of it you will go vote for the party that will give you zero and spit on you in the process. That's sound strategy. Let me know how it works out for you with the fascists in office.

 

[Deafheaven]

Depends on where you live. I’m in Boston, in a state sitting among those with the highest unemployment in the nation. I know quite a few people who made above 50k that are still unemployed, a result of the strict shutdown policy instituted by Governor Baker and the amount of competition for jobs in this area. Demand is high and availability is slim.

Sure, those people can go work at Amazon or Whole Foods, but the wages of those two aren’t going to help them keep pace with the lifestyle - and spending - their former job assisted with. That’s the problem. How do these people pay their mortgage when the moratorium is over? How do they pay their car note? Their children’s healthcare? Summer camp? Home repairs?

Entire lifestyles have been uprooted by these shutdowns, which the $600 was meant to compensate for.

That retroactive payment better occur or the Democrats have a problem in 2022.

But if they lost so much income they couldn't make do on the 50k UI supplied they weren't going to be able to maintain their previous lifestyle regardless and if thats the case they should have curtailed their spending a long time ago. Look its a shytty situation period, but this is really indicative of plenty of americans idiotic spending habits and making tons of money but seemingly living paycheck to paycheck

Why would dems have a problem? If rethugs had majority we wouldn't be getting shyt, nothing. nada. at least something is being done and this is just the first rollout. Ya'll need to be patient. Would you rather we got nothing at all? Which was a all too possible reality till GA

 

[I Really Mean It]

So you're not happy with the plan and instead of getting something out of it you will go vote for the party that will give you zero and spit on you in the process. That's sound strategy. Let me know how it works out for you with the fascists in office.

There is nothing holding back Democrats from helping the unemployed, now that they will hold all three branches of power. If they don’t include retroactive payment, the blame will lie squarely at their feet.

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

There is nothing holding back Democrats from helping the unemployed, now that they will hold all three branches of power. If they don’t include retroactive payment, the blame will lie squarely at their feet.

You don't even understand how politics in this country works. Yeah, there is 'nothing' stopping them except that any of these bills will need 60 votes in the Senate to pass. They can pass through reconciliation but Biden and the Dems would rather not have to start immediately doing that considering he can only use it a few times..

Whoever told you that "Dems control all the branches so now everything is a layup" doesn't understand anything.. that's why I'd rather post in HL and not travel back and forth so much to your TLR know nothing land of dramatic posting because every time one of these TLR posters such as yourself try to hold a debate it goes nowhere because you don't understand anything. You should have stayed over there.

 

[I Really Mean It]

You don't even understand how politics in this country works. Yeah, there is 'nothing' stopping them except that any of these bills will need 60 votes in the Senate to pass. They can pass through reconciliation but Biden and the Dems would rather not have to start immediately doing that considering he can only use it a few times..

Whoever told you that "Dems control all the branches so now everything is a layup" doesn't understand anything.. that's why I'd rather post in HL and not travel back and forth so much to your TLR know nothing land of dramatic posting because every time one of these TLR posters such as yourself try to hold a debate it goes nowhere because you don't understand anything. You should have stayed over there.

i know about reconciliation and the 60 vote threshold.

Stop.

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

There is nothing holding back Democrats from helping the unemployed, now that they will hold all three branches of power. If they don’t include retroactive payment, the blame will lie squarely at their feet.

These were your words, not mine.

 

[DJ Paul's Arm]

That retroactive payment better occur or the Democrats have a problem in 2022.

You must really want that Samsung "The Wall" TV huh?

 

[I Really Mean It]

 

[FAH1223]

I think Dave Dayen said it best. Put the checks with vaccine money and maybe a couple of other items in a stand alone bill. Then do the rest via reconciliation.

 

[Airfeezy]

Say brehs, how are we paying for all this?

Pay for it ?!?!?

 

[I Really Mean It]

I hate when clowns ask how we’re paying for it. Look at how much our country produces. We literally keep this entire world churning due to our output. Anyone questioning where the the money used to finance this comes from is being disingenuous and should be ignored.

 

[winb83]

Say brehs, how are we paying for all this?

The same way they paid for the Trump tax cuts.

we dont, we just keep kicking the can down the road until the dollar is charmin status. it'll happen to some generation's kids

hopefully it makes it another 50 years

By then global warming will wipe out humanity anyway so don't worry.

 

[levitate]

The same way they paid for the Trump tax cuts.

And how was that paid for?

Im not being facetious, just legitimately curious.