Steph's 3 point shooting VS Russ triple doubles - Which impresses you more?

[Mindfield333]

And this is why rebounds (in general) should cease to be recorded, as should every other stat in the traditional box score. They're essentially a red herring; misleading everyone on what has importance and impact. I've said this for years and years now, and yet everyone still argues about these meaningless stats. What's even worse they're going against what they're watching, because if you're actually pay attention to what happens during a game, you'd know that box score stats don't even begin to paint an accurate picture of what's going on.

Basketball discourse will never be able to progress as along as box score stats are in rotation.

I’d argue turnovers or more misleading but both stats should be recorded

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Definitely appreciate both but the 3pt record will be broken before the triple double record

It's a false equivalence to begin with.

Three-point shooting is one action, whereas a triple-double requires THREE different actions. It's pointless to even compare the two. And if you were to compare the two, the record itself isn't what's important, especially as it concerns Steph, as you've got to factor in the level of difficulty of the shots he takes and makes and his efficiency.

Someone could break this "record", yet stand in the corner every game and shoot threes doing it, now, that wouldn't be greater than what Steph has achieved would it?

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

I’d argue turnovers or more misleading but both stats should be recorded

Every stat in the box score is misleading.

The traditional box score should be scrubbed from existence and there should be new measurements that accurately detail player performance.

 

[Mindfield333]

Because accumulation of those stats don't translate to wins, at least not without other positive habits like consistent defensive effort or valuing possessions with low turnover rates, or decent shots instead of a contested jumper with 17 seconds left on the shot clock.

Grant's prime was in the 90s when triple doubles weren't happening like that due to pace. LeBron lead the league in triple-doubles for the era of his early career.

Oscar didn't win his ring averaging a triple-double.

You must’ve meant to say translate to a ring because I googled came this came up

Russell Westbrook's teams are 131-44 when he records a triple-double for a tidy winning percentage of . 749 ... 136-49 if we include his 10 triple-doubles in the playoffs.

 

[NormanConnors]

Where has it gotten Russ?

The question was which impresses me more. Sure Steph is a better shooter but, Russ is more versatile.

 

[NormanConnors]

Shooting from the Logo and making it >>> 3rd Triple Double and still losing games

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

You must’ve meant to say translate to a ring because I googled came this came up

You're mistaking correlation for causation.

Triple doubles don't translate into wins, in any fashion, for anyone.

Since Westbrook is a ball-dominant guard, his teammates are going to get scoring opportunities off his passes (that's the main source of offense), so it only makes sense if he's getting a high amount of assists that his team his going to be a greater position of winning (because they're making shots), as opposed to if his team isn't scoring off his passes, which leads to low assists, they're going to be in a worse position of winning. But there's another part to this: just because a player accumulates a high amount of points, assists and rebounds doesn't that they're putting their team in the best position of winning. Far too often folks think that because x-player has a game with a tally of 18 points, 12 assists and 12 rebounds that they played well, or that they were the main reason their team won the game, or that they're not to blame if their team lost.

And there's another part too: assists aren't the only way you can create scoring opportunities for your teammates; assists are only what is essentially the last pass, and they're not even based on setting your teammate up to score. It's simply a pass before a basket is scored, in black and white.

Same goes for rebounds.

Westbrook grabbing an uncontested rebound off a missed shot doesn't translate into winning. His teammate that exhausted himself for half the shot-clock defending the primary ball-handler and forcing him into a tough shot does translate into winning, yet it's not reflected in the box score stats.

 

[mastermind]

So we gonna talk about who has the better GM? Had OKC never traded Harden, Steph Currys existence would be nothing. One GM broke the team up and the other one didn't.

Nah bro, Curry has three rings is better and usually busts Russ’ ass in head to head.

 

[Pimp]

Imagine typing some bullshyt like this out and hitting Post Reply.



The level of stupidity.

Imagine comparing 2 players because of rings when OKC was never a good organization. These nikkaz traded Harden instead of getting rid of Kendrick Perkins. The reason Russell has 0 rings is because the GM was dumb as fukk for trading Harden.

 

[Pimp]

Nah bro, Curry has three rings is better and usually busts Russ’ ass in head to head.

Curry played with KD,KLAY, DRAY, IGGY all on the same team. You are beyond retarded.

 

[Shadow King]

You must’ve meant to say translate to a ring because I googled came this came up

So if that's the case he should have 50-60 triple doubles a year. And you see with his 10 in the playoffs he's 5-5.

 

[mastermind]

Curry played with KD,KLAY, DRAY, IGGY all on the same team. You are beyond retarded.

And Russ played eight years with KD. You need to stop this.

Also, LOL at bringing up Draymond after saying crap like this:

Draymond Green is a average nikka on a good team. I don't even understand how he was ever an all star.

Draymond Green ain't that good. I could average 7 assists easy if I'm passing to Klay and Steph..

Draymond Green might be the most overrated player in the NBA..

 

[feelosofer]

The Coli hates Russel Westbrook.

 

[Pimp]

And Russ played eight years with KD. You need to stop this.

Also, LOL at bringing up Draymond after saying crap like this:

Russ never played with Talent like that.

Perkins
Ibaka
Durant
Sefalosha
Westbrook

Where the fukk is the scoring coming from?
Who thought this was a good roster?

Adams
Ibaka
Durant
Roberson
Westbrook

Draymond is trash but at least he can pass to open nikkaz. Perkins ibaka and seflosha were all terrible shooters. Ibaka developed a corner 3 later in his career.

 

[mastermind]

Russ never played with Talent like that.

Perkins
Ibaka
Durant
Sefalosha
Westbrook

Where the fukk is the scoring coming from?
Who thought this was a good roster?

Adams
Ibaka
Durant
Roberson
Westbrook

Draymond is trash but at least he can pass to open nikkaz. Perkins ibaka and seflosha were all terrible shooters. Ibaka developed a corner 3 later in his career.

You don’t know what you are talking about because you are blinded by your dislike of Curry. Let it go, Curry is better and his play translates to wins.