Stephen A. Smith goes IN on Colin Keapernick for not voiting

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I agree this system effects my everyday life, but only negatively, regardless of what direction I turn. I just don't trust or believe in government anymore. From local to the federal, I just don't believe the system will do anything to positively effect black people. We are the afterthought to them. It's sad because when a black official is elected, there's this short sense of progression until he/she gets in office and it's still more of the same. I just don't believe bruh.

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I dont agree with everything ANY man or group has done. The fact of the matter is that history shows this country doesnt give a fukk about black progression and that was my point in bringing up those men/groups that they killed/jailed/stopped when they made TOO much progress. So the question is, why do people think voting in an establishment that has shown it doesnt give a fukk, will help with black progression when in all other instances, it shows that it will HALT progression if it becomes too much?

You're talking about "hiding" but I have said concrete things in a supposed "discussion" and all you can do is hide behind your false intellectual superiority
muthafukkas on here REALLY underestimating the lengths Mr.Charlie will go thru to make sure your black ass is kept in check

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I think it is extremely short-sighted of people to think not voting takes away from his cause.
TBH only people that are looking for reasons to hate on dude would do this just like most situations. Look at most of the people on tv that are doing so they mainly didn't mess with him before.
 

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It's things like this where Kaep could have been needed.

Oakland school board race awash in pro-charter school cash

OAKLAND — A deluge of pro-charter money that’s come into the Oakland Unified school board race has raised questions in the community over how much influence groups outside the city, including wealthy Wall Street and Silicon Valley donors, should have in the local election.

More than $825,000 in independent expenditures have been poured into the local race, which boasts a dozen candidates running for four district seats. The vast majority has come from expenditure committees established by two pro-charter, education reform groups: Families and Educators for Public Education, established by GO Public Schools Oakland; and the Parent Teacher Alliance, run by the California Charter Schools Association. Their money has gone to support three candidates: James Harris, Huber Trenado and Jumoke Hinton Hodge.

“I’m concerned that these people from outside of Oakland are having this disproportionate effect on our school board race,” said Ann Swinburn of Parents United for Public Schools. “Oakland parents, educators and our community have clear visions for the kind of strong public schools we want to have, and these folks from outside of Oakland are trying to usurp that decision.”

Families and Educators has spent about $440,000 on the race so far, according to the Oakland City Clerk’s Office campaign disclosure website. The committee recently received a $300,000 donation from Wall Street billionaire and former New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg, and it has received more than $48,000 in donations from Silicon Valley investor Arthur Rock. The Parent Teacher Alliance so far has spent $395,000 on the race, according to the state Secretary of State’s Office campaign disclosure website. It has received millions of dollars from James and Alice Walton of Wal-Mart and Reed Hastings of Netflix, via the California Charter Schools Association Advocates, the political action arm of the CCSA.

It’s this type of outside spending from big-money donors that makes it hard for grass-roots candidates to compete, Swinburn said.

“They are running a very well-financed crop of candidates in this political campaign, with money from Wall Street and Silicon Valley billionaires, while we’re sitting here with 8 to 10 people trying to make phone calls from out of our homes,” Swinburn said. “It’s a very unbalanced equation, and the people who are going to lose out are the kids in Oakland.”

However, candidate Harris said the critics’ emphasis on big money has been more about spreading “rumor and innuendo” than helping the kids of Oakland.

“All the money in the campaign, it seems just another way to spread vitriol,” he said, adding that he has no control over what outside groups spend.

The race has been especially heated in District 7, where Harris, a first-term incumbent, faces Chris Jackson, a former trustee of San Francisco City College. Jackson’s supporters have attacked Harris for having received more than $165,000 from the Parent Teacher Alliance and $60,000 from Families and Educators, while Harris supporters have railed against Jackson for owing $13,905 in fines and administrative penalties from campaign violations from three separate San Francisco Ethics Commission case
To boost Hinton Hodge’s campaign in District 3, Families and Educators has spent about $35,000 and Parent Teacher Alliance has spent about $78,000.

Hinton Hodge, who seeks her third term, bristled at the suggestion that candidates who have received PAC money are not running grass-roots campaigns. Her opponents in the race are Benjamin Lang, Lucky Narain and Kharyshi Wiginton.

“I don’t know those (donors) personally, but what I understand is that those people want to make an investment in the transformation of education …,” she said of the affluent donors, “and they are another group of people who have similar values as I have around reforming the school. So I don’t rule out any of those things to try to improve things.”

Trenado, a public school teacher, has received $43,000 from Families and Educators and $148,000 from the Parent Teacher Alliance. He is running in District 5 against incumbent Roseann Torres, as well as Michael Hassid and Michael Hutchinson.

The tenor of the race has changed with all the slick mailers and ads, Torres said

“Alas, now even a school board race has the toxicity of big-dollar campaign tactics,” she said.

Trenado said that he’s far from the (wealthy) 1 percent he’s being associated with. “I have never met any of these millionaires,” he said on Facebook. “The idea that because they funded organizations that endorsed me I am now a sellout to corporate America is ridiculous.”

Ash Solar, executive director of GO Public Schools, said that the unprecedented levels of spending this year are more a reflection of the fact that there’s been “a presidential election that has sucked all of the air in the room” and voters will be faced with one of longest state election ballots in history, and local school races are at the bottom of it.

California Charter Schools Association Advocates spokesman Richard Garcia, said unions wield powerful endorsement and campaign clout and have spent much more money than his organization has statewide.

“Just like unions have done for decades, we support our candidates because we believe they have the best interests of students in mind,” he said.

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The ones awash with outside money all won except one. :to:
 

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Nothing intellectual about keeping up with current events and tying it to the process of how it works. You are fully capable of knowing the same things, but get bogged down with talking about our history so much that you ignore current day conditions.

I was in that space too...but I had to make that leap where knowing our past history and applying it to any and everything under the sun shouldn't be used as a masking agent. It's not sun screen. dudes use the history crutch to ignore speaking on the intracasies of modern day issues.

You have yet to delve into that discussion. I'm sorry...I'm tired of it. I'm tired of having those retread "this isn't new...back in the day..." blah blah blah. I know those things already. I'm not being taught anything. I'm well read on it. Tell me how it applies to a current day issue and the twists and turns of that issue. That's where hoteps always fall short. They don't delve into the now. They need it to age like cheese in order to eat at it.


So lets see, your position is that if I see a man slap 6 men in a row before coming up to you, I have to PROVE to you that he'd slap you too next? No, you dont have to explain why you would be DIFFERENT this go around, but I have to show why he wouldnt continue as he did before? Thats what you're saying here. That I have to prove that the establishment wouldnt halt black progression if it started uprising again lol

You say Im not up with current events. So "delve" into that discussion then and lets see. Why dont you go in on the info you have that shows that "voting" will get the establishment to allow black progression like they havent done for the last 400 years? You're not too busy hiding behind your false sense of intellectual superiority to go into the discussion you SAY you want to have are you?
 

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So lets see, your position is that if I see a man slap 6 men in a row before coming up to you, I have to PROVE to you that he'd slap you too next? No, you dont have to explain why you would be DIFFERENT this go around, but I have to show why he wouldnt continue as he did before? Thats what you're saying here. That I have to prove that the establishment wouldnt halt black progression if it started uprising again lol

You say Im not up with current events. So "delve" into that discussion then and lets see. Why dont you go in on the info you have that shows that "voting" will get the establishment to allow black progression like they havent done for the last 400 years? You're not too busy hiding behind your false sense of intellectual superiority to go into the discussion you SAY you want to have are you?
Dog....talk we are in here talking about local day politics. You went Huey Newton.

Breh....I know about Huey, Marcus and them. Why are we not talking about the encroaching charter schools siphoning funds from public schools most of our kids attend? How basic services and needs are being bypassed in our communities because no one is electing officials that are willing to put in work on our behalf?

I'm tired of getting bogged down in black fisted history stories. talk about today. You've had enough chances to do so in here, yet you went into your Red, Green and black bag of hoteppery.
 
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My man who just lost his big to get on the school board. This is him a few minutes ago talking about these Trump protests. We need fighters like him in local government:

"I don't have a problem with protesting...I protest. I do have a problem with people who only organize to protest but never organize to plan so they wouldn't have to eventually protest the results. Reactive vs proactive."
 

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My man who just lost his big to get on the school board. This is him a few minutes ago talking about these Trump protests. We need fighters like him in local government:

"I don't have a problem with protesting...I protest. I do have a problem with people who only organize to protest but never organize to plan so they wouldn't have to eventually protest the results. Reactive vs proactive."

But that quote is almost like saying, there's nothing wrong with taking medicine if you catch a cold or the flu, but your better off if you take vitamin c and get the flu shot before hand, so you wont get sick. Those preventive measures are not a guarantee of not becoming sick. That is a very simplistic way of looking at it but I'm basically saying you can plan for a known adversary, but you really can't plan for the resolve or mindset of your comrades fighting alongside you or what allies your adversary has on their side.

I think that we are being integrated and entertained to sleep and a false sense of comfort, and that's why we don't formulate "war strategy" during peace time, because it takes us out of a comfort zone. We overestimate people's ability to use logic when making decisions. People have to be fully invested in order to pre organize, and that takes an energy and love of people that most do not possess.
 

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But that quote is almost like saying, there's nothing wrong with taking medicine if you catch a cold or the flu, but your better off if you take vitamin c and get the flu shot before hand, so you wont get sick. Those preventive measures are not a guarantee of not becoming sick. That is a very simplistic way of looking at it but I'm basically saying you can plan for a known adversary, but you really can't plan for the resolve or mindset of your comrades fighting alongside you or what allies your adversary has on their side.

I think that we are being integrated and entertained to sleep and a false sense of comfort, and that's why we don't formulate "war strategy" during peace time, because it takes us out of a comfort zone. We overestimate people's ability to use logic when making decisions. People have to be fully invested in order to pre organize, and that takes an energy and love of people that most do not possess.
I'm going to do something many black males in here are unable to do.

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Why are we not talking about the encroaching charter schools siphoning funds from public schools most of our kids attend?

I dont think you should expect much of an education from the very same establishment that has shown itself to not only hate you but to despise ANY progression you make for the last 400 years. How about you? Do you think "voting" will cause them to like you and accept your physical, economic, educational, and spiritual progression in their land?

How basic services and needs are being bypassed in our communities because no one is electing officials that are willing to put in work on our behalf?

Again, when has America EVER shown itself to work on the behalf of blacks based on voting?

I'm tired of getting bogged down in black fisted history stories. talk about today. You've had enough chances to do so in here, yet you went into your Red, Green and black bag of hoteppery.

Heres the thing. I didnt read anything from this thread except the last page when I first made a post. You asked: "Why are we like this :damn: ?" and I said because of the historical occurrences that broke up black people's unity and ability (and even interest) to build together. Ever since then you've been ranting on hoteps while not bringing anything YOU say I dont want to discuss until now. And even in what you bring, it seems to be based on asking the very same establishment that has shown itself to hate you for the last 400 years, for help
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That works for cacs yes (but thats coming to an end soon).. But it hasnt ever worked for blacks, So why do you think NOW it would?
 

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I dont think you should expect much of an education from the very same establishment that has shown itself to not only hate you but to despise ANY progression you make for the last 400 years. How about you? Do you think "voting" will cause them to like you and accept your physical, economic, educational, and spiritual progression in their land?



Again, when has America EVER shown itself to work on the behalf of blacks based on voting?



Heres the thing. I didnt read anything from this thread except the last page when I first made a post. You asked: "Why are we like this :damn: ?" and I said because of the historical occurrences that broke up black people's unity and ability (and even interest) to build together. Ever since then you've been ranting on hoteps while not bringing anything YOU say I dont want to discuss until now. And even in what you bring, it seems to be based on asking the very same establishment that has shown itself to hate you for the last 400 years, for help
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That works for cacs yes (but thats coming to an end soon).. But it hasnt ever worked for blacks, So why do you think NOW it would?
Agreed 100%. People in here are fixated on participating in a system that has yet to give a fukk about us. Its like that trust exercise they teach in couples therapy except everytime we fall back they move their hands. Cats in here are saying we should fall back again....

Absolutely not. :heh:
 

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Agreed 100%. People in here are fixated on participating in a system that has yet to give a fukk about us. Its like that trust exercise they teach in couples therapy except everytime we fall back they move their hands. Cats in here are saying we should fall back again....

Absolutely not. :heh:

They don't want to hear you though...
 
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