Stephen A. Smith goes IN on Colin Keapernick for not voiting

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What's the point of voting? Your votes don't even fukking matter. More people physically voted for Hillary but the fakkitass Electoral College or whatever cac run org it is actually picked the president. fukk your votes. Even if zero out of however many hundreds of millions of people voted the result might've been the fukking same.
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What is the point of the election for fukk's sake? If it doesn't even have a tangible outcome other than measuring dikks, just cut the shyt out. Just have the old ass cacs pick whoever they were gonna pick anyway and let life go on.
All these theatrics, the gesturing, the showing of allegiances, all just a waste of fukking time.
 

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What is the point of the election for fukk's sake? If it doesn't even have a tangible outcome other than measuring dikks, just cut the shyt out. Just have the old ass cacs pick whoever they were gonna pick anyway and let life go on.
All these theatrics, the gesturing, the showing of allegiances, all just a waste of fukking time.
:dwillhuh: So you want Fascism?
 

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yall are a bunch of fukking idiots if you think voting makes a difference, Hillary had more people vote for her & STILL LOSS...
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your votes are basically suggestions...:laff:

how bout we focus & worry bout eliminating the Electoral College instead of bashing a mfer because he didn't "voted" or not...
What's the point of voting? Your votes don't even fukking matter. More people physically voted for Hillary but the fakkitass Electoral College or whatever cac run org it is actually picked the president. fukk your votes. Even if zero out of however many hundreds of millions of people voted the result might've been the fukking same.

@Ronnie Lott @ORDER_66

do yall really know how the electoral college works or are yall using that as an excuse as why not to vote?....i ask cause yall keep spewing incorrect information.....i say that cause the electoral votes from a state (which is determined by the number of reps a state has) go to the person that gets the most votes in that state....so yes, people voting/not voting does determine who gets those, it's not some random group of people....that's why during elections they always take forever to show the turnout for every county, and always show the votes a person gets for each individual state...

...i'm gonna stop there cause i can get deeper about why voting matters, but this is a sports thread and i only wanted to touch on the electoral shyt cause i'm tired of seeing the wrong info being put out there, and tired of it being used as a bullshyt excuse...

also, i'm not coming at none of yall, trying to insult yall intelligence, nor change yall mind about voting...cause yall are right, you do have the right to not vote.....
 
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Kaep said from day one, he dont fukk with the 2 party system and that the institution of American politics be it Republican or Democrat have shown it does not help PoCs

Why the fukk would he vote when neither candidate has looked out for the people he's protesting for? :what:
 

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Kaep said from day one, he dont fukk with the 2 party system and that the institution of American politics be it Republican or Democrat have shown it does not help PoCs

Why the fukk would he vote when neither candidate has looked out for the people he's protesting for? :what:

fukk colin kaeperinick bytch ass
 

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Not comparing him to anybody, but did Malcolm Marcus Muhammad Ali or Farrakhan ever vote??
Malcolm advocating voting is part of the reason we even have the Voting Rights Act

Which the Republicans are slowly doing away with because people now fail to do their duty as a citizen proudly



"Malcolm described how potent a weapon the ballot could be, if it was exercised with care:

A ballot is like a bullet."

"The Ballot or the Bullet" is the title of a public speech by human rights activist Malcolm X. In the speech, which was delivered on April 3, 1964, at Cory Methodist Church in Cleveland, Ohio,[1] Malcolm advised African Americans to judiciously exercise their right to vote, but he cautioned that if the government continued to prevent African Americans from attaining full equality, it might be necessary for them to take up arms.




MLK fought to ensure that there would be equal rights and accessibility to voting.

In Selma,’’ King wrote, ‘‘we see a classic pattern of disenfranchisement typical of the Southern Black Belt areas where Negroes are in the majority’’ (King, ‘‘Selma— The Shame and the Promise’’). In addition to facing arbitrary literacy tests and poll taxes, African Americans in Selma and other southern towns were intimidated, harassed, and assaulted when they sought to register to vote. Civil rights activists met with fierce resistance to their campaign, which attracted national attention on 7 March 1965, when civil rights workers were brutally attacked by white law enforcement officers on a march from Selma to Montgomery.




Like the NAACP, Marcus Garvey campaigned against lynching, Jim Crow laws, denial of black voting rights and racial discrimination.




Farrakhan on the importance of voting locally

Essentially, Minister Farrakhan’s speech was one of take care of your own backyard as a voter before you vote for “Satan or Lucifer”. It is at a local level where we can effectively make positive change for our people immediately, he suggested. We have the electoral clout to vote in Mayor’s who take Police Review Boards seriously. We can elect School Boards who are not bought and paid for by Unions. We can elect City Council people who will not move 500 homeless people out of a shelter to build high end condos. We can fight against racially diabolical gentrification. This is in our power today and now and we need to pay more attention to these races to better control and own the communities we live in, is what I learned from his three hour message, The one resonating message I also got from Min Farrakhan’s speech Sunday at the Fox Theatre was “a storm is coming” no matter who wins the November 8th presidential race. Trump winning buys us some time, he suggests. Hillary will bring the storm immediately. As he said, “My teacher, The Honorable Elijah Muhammad said that if you can buy some days before the storm, you can better prepare for the storm to come”. Read into it what you want.
 
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Malcolm advocating voting is part of the reason we even have the Voting Rights Act

Which the Republicans are slowly doing away with because people now fail to do their duty as a citizen proudly



"Malcolm described how potent a weapon the ballot could be, if it was exercised with care:

A ballot is like a bullet."

"The Ballot or the Bullet" is the title of a public speech by human rights activist Malcolm X. In the speech, which was delivered on April 3, 1964, at Cory Methodist Church in Cleveland, Ohio,[1] Malcolm advised African Americans to judiciously exercise their right to vote, but he cautioned that if the government continued to prevent African Americans from attaining full equality, it might be necessary for them to take up arms.



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@Ronnie Lott @ORDER_66

do yall really know how the electoral college works or are yall using that as an excuse as why not to vote?....i ask cause yall keep spewing incorrect information.....i say that cause the electoral votes from a state (which is determined by the number of reps a state has) go to the person that gets the most votes in that state....so yes, people voting/not voting does determine who gets those, it's not some random group of people....that's why during elections they always take forever to show the turnout for every county, and always show the votes a person gets for each individual state...

...i'm gonna stop there cause i can get deeper about why voting matters, but this is a sports thread and i only wanted to touch on the electoral shyt cause i'm tired of seeing the wrong info being put out there, and tired of it being used as a bullshyt excuse...

also, i'm not coming at none of yall, trying to insult yall intelligence, nor change yall mind about voting...cause yall are right, you do have the right to not vote.....
I'm not even American breh. I just see people voting and it doesn't seem to make a difference.
Unless.. the candidate people vote for in any particular state actually affects the reps in that state? Or is their mind already made up?
Pardon my ignorance of the American voting/election system, I'm just mad that orange fugazi hitler fakkit won :snoop:

@DonKnock under trump you guys really might get fascism ote
The simple ass way I see it is, if you vote for one person, but the person that actually decides for your state votes the other way (even if, say, the votes were overwhelmingly for one but the rep still voted the other way), it seems a little useless. Of course it would be foolish to abolish the voting system, just saying that the system sucks. Besides almost half the people didn't even vote :thefukkyoumeanmayne_1: if the voting system truly works then Americans failed themselves:yeshrug:


I just cancelled my trip to Cali off the strength of Trump's election :mjgrin:
i was looking forward to that so much :martin:
 

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I'm not even American breh. I just see people voting and it doesn't seem to make a difference.
Unless.. the candidate people vote for in any particular state actually affects the reps in that state? Or is their mind already made up?
Pardon my ignorance of the American voting/election system, I'm just mad that orange fugazi hitler fakkit won :snoop:

@DonKnock under trump you guys really might get fascism ote
The simple ass way I see it is, if you vote for one person, but the person that actually decides for your state votes the other way (even if, say, the votes were overwhelmingly for one but the rep still voted the other way), it seems a little useless. Of course it would be foolish to abolish the voting system, just saying that the system sucks. Besides almost half the people didn't even vote :thefukkyoumeanmayne_1: if the voting system truly works then Americans failed themselves:yeshrug:


I just cancelled my trip to Cali off the strength of Trump's election :mjgrin:
i was looking forward to that so much :martin:

Yes I'm afraid of as much happening.

The electoral voters are obligated to vote either proportionally to the popular vote or in a winner-take-all format. Each state can select how they do this so once again the importance of voting for state officials shows up.

Despite the many people I see who are championing not voting, I have seen a much larger group of people my age that are actually engaging with the political process and learning about candidates beforehand
 

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Yes I'm afraid of as much happening.

The electoral voters are obligated to vote either proportionally to the popular vote or in a winner-take-all format. Each state can select how they do this so once again the importance of voting for state officials shows up.

Despite the many people I see who are championing not voting, I have seen a much larger group of people my age that are actually engaging with the political process and learning about candidates beforehand
So basically, it's important to vote locally, to vote impartial reps (or reps that would likely lean towards the one you want to win), then go vote in the general election. Was this knowledge widely disseminated throughout the cities, counties and states, or was this somewhat lowkey?
 

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:what: Why is it hard for some of yall to understand the concept of not voting? Were the jews ever going to vote their way out of what they endured in Germany? Voting aint helped the Native Americans get their country back. White folks aint leaving no time soon. Hell voting aint even the reason black folks are not slaves.


:sas2: How did these white folks get their freedom from England? Did they vote?

Think of not voting like going to a restaurant and telling the waiter to "just surprise you", sure it might work out and you might get something you like. On the other hand, you may not get something you like, or even if it is a type of food you may like the chefs skill in actually cooking the food come into play.

Additionally, say you have a peanut allergy and the chef sends out ice cream with Reese's cups for desserts. Or you can't tolerate gluten and the chef serves you a wheat based dish. These are possibilities you could avoid by actually putting in an order rather than just rolling the dice.

Your one vote may seem like nothing in a pool of millions, but some precincts come down to margins of less than 100 regularly. If people don't vote there is a high percentage chance that their children won't vote. But look what happened when millions of people decided not to vote, a coalition was able to get their Presidential candidate in much easier because of individuals making the choice not to vote. Trump had one of the lowest winning % since Carter.

At local levels this is even more relevant.


Kaep had every right to not vote. What he did imo that was wrong was revealing that he did not vote. He is under a heavy microscope and he HAS a platform to be able to affect change in other ways. People like you and me don't have that kind of platform. Voting is the most effective way that most everyday people can impact the political process! But just from posters on here you can see that Kaep revealing he didn't vote has embolden others who also didn't vote. Little kids see that and think "Well if Kaep didn't vote I don't need to either", but not connecting the dots that he has influence that they will never have.
 
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