STEM Education And Jobs: Declining Numbers Of Blacks Seen In Math, Science

[Poitier]

They're not.
Especially raw science research and engineering.

We have already had this conversation.

@Ciggavelli pulled up multiple academic journals citing STEM vulnerability to automation. Let it go, fam.

The point isn't helping EVERYONE its helping MORE people.

There needs to be more blacks in STEM.

I don't know why you keep taking shyt to the extreme.

We're talking about flux, not capacity.

Nope, Blacks have never had a problem with individual wealth. Going into stem will diversify individual wealth but it does nothing to address communal wealth nor does it free up access capital.

Jamaicans too

The same Jamaica that is a shyt hole. The same Jamaicans who live in utter abject poverty. Lets be real, Islanders are the shyt stain of the Black diaspora, which is why you come over here to even have a chance. No wonder you and @Serious believe the utter BS that you spew lol. We can compare the few 100,000 Jamaicans in America to the best African Americans of the same sample size and we will embarrass you, fam.

 

[Poitier]

Interesting findings from the report:


Occupation with the lowest probability of automation? Recreational Therapists
The Highest? Telemarketers

(I used to be a telemarketer when doing my BA. shytty, shytty, shytty, shytty, shytty, shytty, shytty, job)


Top 39 jobs with the lowest probability of automation:

THe most important graph from the study:

 

[Poitier]

Idiots really said robots will never be able to self build and modify themselves. Like MIT, Google and DARPA aren't doing just that

 

[duckbutta]

Might have told this story awhile ago, but I had a very bright relative of mine who was going to school to be a mechanical engineer suddenly just drop out and open a restaurant in cali...still has it and is doing pretty good for himself...

Anyway I asked him why he dropped out and he was just like "Looking at all the school work and what the STEM jobs start out paying...it just wasn't a good return investment on my money and time ...20 something hours worth of classes a week...20 something hours worth of studying a week...10 hours or so working on some project a week...for 4 years...5 years if I do an internship and everyone I talk to who has a job in ME did an internship and most of them were unpaid internships...so I can come out of school making 70k if I am lucky with around 30k of debt...just not worth it"

People keep talking about blacks need to be in STEM but STEM is not something you are "in"...if you don't love it you will get chewed up and you will get spit out...with a ton of debt no less

Graduated with a MIS degree...which at my school was basically a CS degree...only 4 different classles between the two programs...

142 of us Freshman year...

13 of us when we graduated...

I fail to see how black people getting into STEM....for the sake of getting into STEM...solves anything for black people

Maybe focus on teaching black kids more math and science based curriculum's...but just "getting into STEM"...nah...


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[theworldismine13]

Well that's why the 2nd part of my post stated: if no musical talent, like perfect/absolute pitch, hyper creativity and synesthesia to the point that sights and sounds are wired. It'd be insane not to go into music if one or more of those traits were present.

Plenty of sound engineers in the music industry have degrees in electrical engineering and could school folks in math and physics too so there's that to fall back on. But you gotta have a strong ear for it. I feel Black folks could make a splash there.

people need to understand that its easier to get a STEM degree than to make it in the music industry, the chances of being "like pherell" are about zero

we have talked ourselves into a lie that the best way to get rich is through music and sports, so the first thing we need to is to stop spreading lies

 

[theworldismine13]

Idiots really said robots will never be able to self build and modify themselves. Like MIT, Google and DARPA aren't doing just that

what are the majors of the people at MIT, google and DARPA that are doing that?

 

[Poitier]

what are the majors of the people at MIT, google and DARPA that are doing that?

Your stupidity astounds me fam

 

[duckbutta]

people need to understand is that its easier to get a STEM degree than to make it it in the music industry, the chances of being "like pherell" are about zero

we have talked ourselves into a lie that the best way to get rich is through music and sports, so the first thing we need to is to stop spreading lies

Getting the degree isn't the end game...getting the job is...

shyt getting the degree is just the beginning...the only thing that a degree means is that your online application isn't instantly tossed in the trash...

Matter fact...if I had to choose between a guy who loves music making a smash summer anthem that makes him a ton of money...and just some random guy graduating from some state college and getting an IT job...ANY IT job, that same summer...I'll put my money on the producer because at least he can make his music and put it out himself...that guy for the IT job is just filling out applications all day and praying...

Looking through this thread the majority of people posting in it cannot actually be working in a STEM field...I can't imagine a harder industry to get a job in...

Don't let all those "high paying STEM jobs" articles fool you...

I always see on those list that programmers make 80k...90k...100k...

I work at a fortune 100 company and can tell you that not even 10% of the programmers worldwide at the company make a 100k...

shyt 80% of them are not even FTE's...

 

[semtex]

I'm a developer and my little cousin is in a magnet school intended to propel him to STEM fields

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

We have already had this conversation.

@Ciggavelli pulled up multiple academic journals citing STEM vulnerability to automation. Let it go, fam.



Nope, Blacks have never had a problem with individual wealth. Going into stem will diversify individual wealth but it does nothing to address communal wealth nor does it free up access capital.



The same Jamaica that is a shyt hole. The same Jamaicans who live in utter abject poverty. Lets be real, Islanders are the shyt stain of the Black diaspora, which is why you come over here to even have a chance. No wonder you and @Serious believe the utter BS that you spew lol. We can compare the few 100,000 Jamaicans in America to the best African Americans of the same sample size and we will embarrass you, fam.

Fam, do you know how fukking stupid this is and sounds?

 

[Poitier]

blah blah blah blah I have no logical retort and I suck on bananas in tinychats

 

[theworldismine13]

Might have told this story awhile ago, but I had a very bright relative of mine who was going to school to be a mechanical engineer suddenly just drop out and open a restaurant in cali...still has it and is doing pretty good for himself...

Anyway I asked him why he dropped out and he was just like "Looking at all the school work and what the STEM jobs start out paying...it just wasn't a good return investment on my money and time ...20 something hours worth of classes a week...20 something hours worth of studying a week...10 hours or so working on some project a week...for 4 years...5 years if I do an internship and everyone I talk to who has a job in ME did an internship and most of them were unpaid internships...so I can come out of school making 70k if I am lucky with around 30k of debt...just not worth it"

People keep talking about blacks need to be in STEM but STEM is not something you are "in"...if you don't love it you will get chewed up and you will get spit out...with a ton of debt no less

Graduated with a MIS degree...which at my school was basically a CS degree...only 4 different classles between the two programs...

142 of us Freshman year...

13 of us when we graduated...

I fail to see how black people getting into STEM....for the sake of getting into STEM...solves anything for black people

Maybe focus on teaching black kids more math and science based curriculum's...but just "getting into STEM"...nah...


Curriculum
Curriculum
Curriculum

we arent discussing how to force people into STEM, we are discussing how to get more black STEM majors

i totally agree that if you somebody isnt feeling it they shouldnt get into it, but that's general advise that applies to just about any career field

 

[Loose]

The biggest issue is inner city school education, these schools don't prepare us for stem degrees.

 

[theworldismine13]

Your stupidity astounds me fam

im just asking a simple question, you say people at MIT, google and Darpa are working on robot that build themselves, im simply asking what majors do the people doing this have?

 

[Poitier]

im just asking a simple question, you say people at MIT, google and Darpa are working on robot that build themselves, im simply asking what majors do the people doing this have?

And how is that relevant to what the FUTURE effects of automation will be as proclaimed by leaders in science and technology