Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker (Official Thread)

[Soymuscle Mike]

Your last point is my major issue with Abrams. Star Wars is generational and remixing what came before for this generation of kids is so shortsighted and unnecessary. Take it somewhere new rather than being beholden to something from 40 years ago, which had a completely different context and reason for existing. Carve your own path rather than being afraid to do anything new and worried about adult ass fans who might freak out about it

I agree 100%.

Chewie getting that medal is such a cowardly scene, it's literally JJ begging the OG fans to love him while completely forgetting why people love SW. Perhaps the problem is that he's too much of a fan himself, Roth from Screenjunkies said it perfectly - "he's fanservicing himself". JJ the filmmaker is absent and what we see is a fan who's trying to convince us how much of a fan he is.

Plus I'm 100% convinced that he took TLJ as a personal insult and like a quarter of this flick is him lashing out at Rian/Disney.

 

[MartyMcFly]

I agree 100%.

Chewie getting that medal is such a cowardly scene, it's literally JJ begging the OG fans to love him while completely forgetting why people love SW. Perhaps the problem is that he's too much of a fan himself, Roth from Screenjunkies said it perfectly - "he's fanservicing himself". JJ the filmmaker is absent and what we see is a fan who's trying to convince us how much of a fan he is.

Plus I'm 100% convinced that he took TLJ as a personal insult and like a quarter of this flick is him lashing out at Rian/Disney.

Yeah I agree with Roth. The original Star Wars is inspired by Kurosawa and Flash Gordon and other things Lucas loved as a kid. So it becomes this awesome mix of his influences and riffs on material he knew really well. Even the Bible.

JJ’s Star Wars movies are inspired by....Star Wars movies.

 

[CHERUB]

I still cant believe this guy Kylo Ren fell over dead like and that was it. Bruh life didnt matter he didn't even get a force ghost

 

[Lord_Chief_Rocka]

They really should’ve made Finn the lead. A storm trooper leading a rebellion would be very interesting.

 

[Lord_Chief_Rocka]

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This I will disagree with. People said the same thing about the prequels and now we're about to get a Ewan McGregor Obi-Wan show. People talk about the clone wars, Mace Windu, Darth Maul etc. The Clone Wars cartoon helped, but you don't get that interest without invested kids/adults.

Mark Hamill talked about how he saw more Padme cosplay than Leia at one of the conventions, and that kids were asking him about Hayden Christensen.

SW is a generational thing, people grew up with this trilogy and their experience is different than ours - that's a good thing

The difference is people actually LIKED those characters. Nobody gives a fukk about these characters. Remember theses dudes decided to make their theme park based on the ST and was a massive flop.

 

[BillBanneker]

Always said I like it and stand by that. Don’t think it’s perfect but I really do like it. And I’ll take it over this flick all day everyday. If for nothing else the fact it moved a ball forward rather than sitting on it and running out the clock, which is this movie

I guess if you consider punting the ball outta the building by moving forward I guess so

 

[MartyMcFly]

I guess if you consider punting the ball outta the building by moving forward I guess so

Nah. Don't see it as a punt at all. not in the least bit. but if that's how you see it

 

[BillBanneker]

Nah. Don't see it as a punt at all. not in the least bit. but if that's how you see it

It really didn't move anything forward and wasn't trying to.

 

[FlyRy]

Kylo ren kept popping up everywhere like carrie fishers daughter in Booksmart

@HHR @MartyMcFly

 

[MartyMcFly]

It really didn't move anything forward and wasn't trying to.

Yeah it did. the whole idea of the force not belonging to someone just because of lineage is an forward idea. Kylo killing Snoke and truly saying this first order will be his and his alone, is a forward idea from the first movie where he was cool being an underboss. Rey getting to the point where her lineage didn't matter (until it did again with this movie) is a forward idea and it was her choosing her own path and identity rather than being beholden to her past. Even them realizing just how much the rest of the galaxy profited from the first order and gave it tacit consent, is a forward idea and helped in taking the first order out. Then finally, Luke's character development and arc and then getting to a point where he did what he did in the third act as a way to give "hope" to the rest of the galaxy was also supposed to move things forward until all that hope was wiped out again to reset for the third movie.

 

[HipHopStan]

Kylo ren kept popping up everywhere like carrie fishers daughter in Booksmart

@HHR @MartyMcFly

That's right. She was the piano player. I don't know why I didn't notice that until just now.

 

[wire28]

this was 100% real and i refuse to believe otherwise. backlash changed the path

On one of the recent collider mailbags (which was one of the best in a while actually, with Winston Marshall) brought up itd be a good idea if Disney did a “what if” show similar to marvel and had a darth jar jar episode(s). That’d be hot.

 

[FlyRy]

I still cant believe this guy Kylo Ren fell over dead like and that was it. Bruh life didnt matter he didn't even get a force ghost

He had like 4 deaths

He was like tom hardy in lawless. Just wouldn't die

 

[Jmare007]

Yeah it did. the whole idea of the force not belonging to someone just because of lineage is an forward idea. Kylo killing Snoke and truly saying this first order will be his and his alone, is a forward idea from the first movie where he was cool being an underboss. Rey getting to the point where her lineage didn't matter (until it did again with this movie) is a forward idea and it was her choosing her own path and identity rather than being beholden to her past. Even them realizing just how much the rest of the galaxy profited from the first order and gave it tacit consent, is a forward idea and helped in taking the first order out. Then finally, Luke's character development and arc and then getting to a point where he did what he did in the third act as a way to give "hope" to the rest of the galaxy was also supposed to move things forward until all that hope was wiped out again to reset for the third movie.

I agree with this and it's why I liked most of TLJ. But we also gotta admit that these advancements went against the basic premises of TFA. And while I liked those changes and made me wish TLJ had a different (and better) predecessor, the fact is that Johnson left no room to finish this story in a 3rd movie, let a lone finish the whole damn saga.

What Abrahams ended up doing was the worst case scenario as he combined his first movie - which was mostly thrown to the bushes in Ep VIII -, "course corrected" what he thought was necessary and added a whole buch of fan service that served no purpose and that was so bad it didn't even land with most of the hardcore SW audience.

And again, this all because Kennedy was thinking about making money, not making a legit trilogy.

 

[ColdSlither]

Yeah it did. the whole idea of the force not belonging to someone just because of lineage is an forward idea. Kylo killing Snoke and truly saying this first order will be his and his alone, is a forward idea from the first movie where he was cool being an underboss. Rey getting to the point where her lineage didn't matter (until it did again with this movie) is a forward idea and it was her choosing her own path and identity rather than being beholden to her past. Even them realizing just how much the rest of the galaxy profited from the first order and gave it tacit consent, is a forward idea and helped in taking the first order out. Then finally, Luke's character development and arc and then getting to a point where he did what he did in the third act as a way to give "hope" to the rest of the galaxy was also supposed to move things forward until all that hope was wiped out again to reset for the third movie.

That’s not a forward idea. There’s no Jedi, no Sith, no force sensitive individuals period, in Star Wars who come from a lineage of force users. This isn’t a unique idea. Some people feared the Jedi in Outer Rim backwater worlds, because of the boogeyman rumors that the Jedi will come and take your kids.