Star Wars: The Last Jedi (Official Thread)

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Qui Gon only had enough to free Anakin plus Jedi can't have attachments with people. That's why they seek out new potential jedi when they are babies.
It is explained in the films if I'm not mistaken (been reading the novelizations so I'm a little fuzzy about what was and wasnt in the films)
qui gon's exact words to anakin's mother were "I didn't come here to free slaves". well why not? what the fukk do you jedi do exactly? doesn't the opening crawl refer to them as guardians of peace?

imagine a cop goes to a bad neighborhood one day and he sees a mother and her child being used as slaves. shouldn't he feel compelled to do something about it? does it MATTER what the law of the land is?

qui gon should have rescued anakin and his mother no questions asked. he's a fukkin jedi. what was watto gonna do to him?
 

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qui gon's exact words to anakin's mother were "I didn't come here to free slaves". well why not? what the fukk do you jedi do exactly? doesn't the opening crawl refer to them as guardians of peace?

imagine a cop goes to a bad neighborhood one day and he sees a mother and her child being used as slaves. shouldn't he feel compelled to do something about it? does it MATTER what the law of the land is?

qui gon should have rescued anakin and his mother no questions asked. he's a fukkin jedi. what was watto gonna do to him?
Jedi worked for the Republic and the Republics power didnt stretch out to the outer rim. On Tatooine slavery was legal.
 

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qui gon's exact words to anakin's mother were "I didn't come here to free slaves". well why not? what the fukk do you jedi do exactly? doesn't the opening crawl refer to them as guardians of peace?

imagine a cop goes to a bad neighborhood one day and he sees a mother and her child being used as slaves. shouldn't he feel compelled to do something about it? does it MATTER what the law of the land is?

qui gon should have rescued anakin and his mother no questions asked. he's a fukkin jedi. what was watto gonna do to him?

I actually agree.

The one major flaw of the Jedi is that they let themselves become an agency of the Republic. From letting them dictate wgat they do to even fighting wars for them.

That was intentional, not bad writing. The Jedi were supposed to be seen as too attached. It's in every movie. The prequels START with Jedi being sent out to settle a fukking tax trade dispute. The second movie STARTS with Mace telling Palpatine the Jedi will not fight their wars for them and ends with....the Jedi leading the charge against the Seperatists.

That's why Yoda says they LOST at the end of that movie.

That was Palpatine's trap.

Qui-Gon /Watto, "I tried freeing your mother but Watto wouldn't have it". QuiGon /Padme didn't pursue it because that would've meant going against the Hutts in the name of the Republic, which they didn't want to do.

I fully agree that they should've come back like Luke and busted up thay slavery ring lightsabers swinging instead of bothering with tax disputes
 

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qui gon's exact words to anakin's mother were "I didn't come here to free slaves". well why not? what the fukk do you jedi do exactly? doesn't the opening crawl refer to them as guardians of peace?

imagine a cop goes to a bad neighborhood one day and he sees a mother and her child being used as slaves. shouldn't he feel compelled to do something about it? does it MATTER what the law of the land is?

qui gon should have rescued anakin and his mother no questions asked. he's a fukkin jedi. what was watto gonna do to him?

That bothered me the most about the PT. all of the high and mighty shyt bout not freeing slaves and peace keepers but he cheated on the dice roll to free anakin. I guess because they all motherless they like fukk that broad but he was already attached to his mom so bad idea from the start. Jedi and sith should both be wiped out and start a new shyt altogether
 

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The more i read into the light/dark side of the force, themore i see that the jesi are the ones who got it wrong.

They forbid having families even tho thats human nature. Forbid having feelings, which is human nature. Its like they want you to be this perfect person because you can control things wit the force. Its unrealistic and i hope one day that is expanded on because the darkside allows those things and that isnt a bad thing.

Maybe thats why snoke is so interested in kylos light and dark abilities.
 

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The more i read into the light/dark side of the force, themore i see that the jesi are the ones who got it wrong.

They forbid having families even tho thats human nature. Forbid having feelings, which is human nature. Its like they want you to be this perfect person because you can control things wit the force. Its unrealistic and i hope one day that is expanded on because the darkside allows those things and that isnt a bad thing.

Maybe thats why snoke is so interested in kylos light and dark abilities.
They didn't forbid feelings
 

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That bothered me the most about the PT. all of the high and mighty shyt bout not freeing slaves and peace keepers but he cheated on the dice roll to free anakin. I guess because they all motherless they like fukk that broad but he was already attached to his mom so bad idea from the start. Jedi and sith should both be wiped out and start a new shyt altogether

peacekeepers dont go around righting every wrong in the world. does the UN go around toppling dictators or stopping every genocide? they do what they can to maintain order and try to make progress peacefullly. mind control doesnt work on that wasp dude so the only way to free the slaves would have been some kind of force. all this does is create resentment and lead to possible violence. instead qui gon found a way to free a nakin without pissing anyone off or creating bloodshed. the jedi way
 

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The more i read into the light/dark side of the force, themore i see that the jesi are the ones who got it wrong.

They forbid having families even tho thats human nature. Forbid having feelings, which is human nature. Its like they want you to be this perfect person because you can control things wit the force. Its unrealistic and i hope one day that is expanded on because the darkside allows those things and that isnt a bad thing.

Maybe thats why snoke is so interested in kylos light and dark abilities.
They are both extreme ends of the spectrum
 

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They are both extreme ends of the spectrum
I don't think being in the middle of that spectrum is the answer though. fukk the spectrum both of them are on altogether.

Would be really interesting if by the end of Episode 9 a NJO is started whose views shift the paradigm :lupe:
 

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I don't think being in the middle of that spectrum is the answer though. fukk the spectrum both of them are on altogether.

Would be really interesting if by the end of Episode 9 a NJO is started whose views shift the paradigm :lupe:
I think new Jedi will have different views regardless because they won't be taught the way it was being presented prior to Order 66
 
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