Star Wars Andor Thread

[Warren Peace]

These nikkas tripping talking bout where’s the Jedi and lightsabers

Shut the fukk up .Don’t nobody need that shyt. This gritty shyt. Let the space wizards play in their own movies. My nikka cassian in the mud putting in work. Where the fukk is obi wan?where the fukk is yoda? Them nikkas scared.

 

[Saint1]

Show is dope. Much better than anything since Rogue One.

I knew it for sure in episode 3

Spoiler: Spoiler

when Andor put that gun to the back of Crispin Glover's clone

 

[Wargames]

 

[Mr Hate Coffee]

Took me forever to watch this but I’m glad I did cuz it was flames.

I heard a lot of good word of mouth but I kept being like “nikka ain’t nobody tryna watch a show about Andor ”

The best thing about this was the writing and characters. It was gritty. It really did a good job showing the stakes of the rebellion. Mufukkas were dying left and right.

This honestly makes the writing on the other Star Wars movies and shows look like kiddy shyt. I ain’t even gone lie, I’m one of the people who was mostly interested in the Jedi but I’m glad they did a show without them in it.

Great show. But I hope they understand that viewership is low because of the subject snd main character and not because of the quality of the storytelling

 

[Mr Hate Coffee]

My question is if Disney is capable of producing this quality of content for a Star Wars show, why did they use it on Andor? Why couldn’t Boba Fett or Kenobi receive this type of TLC?

Lower profile character = less studio interference and opinions from higher ups.

 

[The_Sheff]

Took me forever to watch this but I’m glad I did cuz it was flames.

I heard a lot of good word of mouth but I kept being like “nikka ain’t nobody tryna watch a show about Andor ”

The best thing about this was the writing and characters. It was gritty. It really did a good job showing the stakes of the rebellion. Mufukkas were dying left and right.

This honestly makes the writing on the other Star Wars movies and shows look like kiddy shyt. I ain’t even gone lie, I’m one of the people who was mostly interested in the Jedi but I’m glad they did a show without them in it.

Great show. But I hope they understand that viewership is low because of the subject snd main character and not because of the quality of the storytelling

Yeah I just watched this a couple weeks ago, well after the internet hype and I was pleasantly surprised. Writing was great and they didn’t shoe in any Jedi or Sith baggage. They need more content like this…….new locations, characters, tech, everything was refreshing.

I fully expect the next movie to have a forced Palpatine/Skywalker connection as well as a desert planet though.

 

[EzekelRAGE]

My question is if Disney is capable of producing this quality of content for a Star Wars show, why did they use it on Andor? Why couldn’t Boba Fett or Kenobi receive this type of TLC?

What Coffee said about lesser known character but also because the creator refused to do the show if he couldnt do his vision of it. They pitched him their version and he was like that's trash, you need to do it like this. LucasFilm/Kennedy refused his version. Then I'm assuming after the failure of the new trilogy they came crawling back to him and let him do the show the way he wanted.

Andor's Tony Gilroy Reveals His Initial Pitch Was Rejected - Jedi News

Tony Gilroy, the creator/writer of the Disney+ Andor series, has explained how his initial pitch for the show was rejected, until they reached back and said "they wanted to be that ambitious on this scale" and things fell into place.

www.jedinews.com

They tried to do a couple different versions of this show along the way. I wasn’t really interested, but the people that were trying it were feeling a little bit trapped in what we just discussed, this reverence for Star Wars. But they were also kind of inhibited because the economics weren’t really in place for large-scale streaming at that point. The economics to make a show like this, there wasn’t anybody who was going to spend that kind of money on a show. Now, there’s a bunch of aircraft carriers that are floating around; this is becoming a normal thing. (Laughs.)

But along the way, Kathy [Kennedy] sent me one of the pilots that they were thinking about, but had grown cool on, and she asked what I thought. And in some sort of … I don’t know. I had time. I was in some sort of manic thing, and so I just got on it for a couple days. So I wrote this big manifesto for her. “This is what your show should be like. This is what you should never do. This is why this doesn’t work.” So it was a crazy thing, and it was wildly ambitious. And they were like, “Well, that’s really great. Thanks for helping us know what’s wrong, but we could never do this.” Then they tried a couple other things, and when everything had gone cold, there was a moment where, my God, streaming was whoa. Now we can really do it.

So they went back and pulled this old memo, and they were like, “We want to do this now.” They wanted to be that ambitious on this scale, and the timing was right for me. I had a bunch of other things fall apart. I was getting a little tired of things falling apart, and the one thing that they definitely have is an audience. So it wasn’t an overnight thing that you tiptoe into. It takes a long time. Everybody tiptoes forward, but that’s how it came to be.

If you stripped everything Star Wars from this and it was some original IP/Idea, it would still be a quality show. I also don't think it's a coincidence that the most high quality show to come out of this new trilogy is one where LF/KK had the least amount of meddling in. They need someone over Star Wars that actually knows the ip and isnt scared to try shyt. They thought Kathleen was their Kevin Feige, but she isnt.

 

[Formerly Black Trash]

What Coffee said about lesser known character but also because the creator refused to do the show if he couldnt do his vision of it. They pitched him their version and he was like that's trash, you need to do it like this. LucasFilm/Kennedy refused his version. Then I'm assuming after the failure of the new trilogy they came crawling back to him and let him do the show the way he wanted.

Andor's Tony Gilroy Reveals His Initial Pitch Was Rejected - Jedi News

Tony Gilroy, the creator/writer of the Disney+ Andor series, has explained how his initial pitch for the show was rejected, until they reached back and said "they wanted to be that ambitious on this scale" and things fell into place.

www.jedinews.com

If you stripped everything Star Wars from this and it was some original IP/Idea, it would still be a quality show. I also don't think it's a coincidence that the most high quality show to come out of this new trilogy is one where LF/KK had the least amount of meddling in. They need someone over Star Wars that actually knows the ip and isnt scared to try shyt. They thought Kathleen was their Kevin Feige, but she isnt.

They also need good writers

Filoni is trash tooo he just gives fan service

 

[Outlaw]

What Coffee said about lesser known character but also because the creator refused to do the show if he couldnt do his vision of it. They pitched him their version and he was like that's trash, you need to do it like this. LucasFilm/Kennedy refused his version. Then I'm assuming after the failure of the new trilogy they came crawling back to him and let him do the show the way he wanted.

Andor's Tony Gilroy Reveals His Initial Pitch Was Rejected - Jedi News

Tony Gilroy, the creator/writer of the Disney+ Andor series, has explained how his initial pitch for the show was rejected, until they reached back and said "they wanted to be that ambitious on this scale" and things fell into place.

www.jedinews.com

If you stripped everything Star Wars from this and it was some original IP/Idea, it would still be a quality show. I also don't think it's a coincidence that the most high quality show to come out of this new trilogy is one where LF/KK had the least amount of meddling in. They need someone over Star Wars that actually knows the ip and isnt scared to try shyt. They thought Kathleen was their Kevin Feige, but she isnt.

Kathleen is trash. How is she still head of Lucas film when the new trilogy was a faliure? That was the biggest layup ever when the source material was already there and not only that if you wanted to go a different route, George Lucas was willing to give you his outline on what would happen too

 

[EzekelRAGE]

Kathleen is trash. How is she still head of Lucas film when the new trilogy was a faliure? That was the biggest layup ever when the source material was already there and not only that if you wanted to go a different route, George Lucas was willing to give you his outline on what would happen too

Apparently Rian Johnson was also setting everything up to not relay so much on Skywalkers and stuff. Then they brought in JJ Abrams and basically undid all the stuff Rian was working on

Rian Johnson Says He Wanted To Give ‘Last Jedi’ A “Hell Of An Ending” Because IP-Driven Storytelling Is Typically Horrible

Rian Johnson worked hard to give 'The Last Jedi' a memorable ending because he hates typical franchise storytelling.

theplaylist.net

Speaking to The Atlantic, Rian Johnson talked about the trouble with trying to make the middle chapter of a serialized story. This, as you might imagine, brought on a discussion about the end of "Star Wars: The Last Jedi." The filmmaker explained that he intended to craft a memorable ending to his film, even though it was clearly the middle chapter of a new trilogy and the eighth chapter of a decades-spanning saga. Regardless of whether you think he was successful or not, you have to agree that Johnson wasn't given an easy task.

"Look, in terms of the 'Star Wars' movie I did, I tried to give it a hell of an ending," he explained. "I love endings so much that even doing the middle chapter of the trilogy, I tried to give it an ending. A good ending that recontextualizes everything that came before it and makes it a beautiful object unto itself—that's what makes a movie a movie. It feels like there's less and less of that. This whole poisonous idea of creating [intellectual property] has completely seeped into the bedrock of storytelling. Everyone is just thinking, How do we keep milking it? I love an ending where you burn the Viking boat into the sea."

SW should be the easiest IP to be able to put out quality shows and movies, but they fail so hard because they can't get outta their own way. Big ass galaxy but stuff largely revolves around the Skywalkers. A galaxy but a lot of stuff happens on Tattooine or planets that look like it.

 

[MajesticLion]

They also need good writers

Filoni is trash tooo he just gives fan service

Put Filoni and Gilroy in a room and watch them bring balance back to the Force
and maybe Favreau

 

[KalKal]

Put Filoni and Gilroy in a room and watch them bring balance back to the Force
and maybe Favreau

Filoni writes for the 12/13-year olds...but that's what Lucas intended Star Wars to be for.
Andor is written for the Grown Ups.

As a grown up I recognize that Andor is the superior version of Star Wars, but you NEED the "Filoni" Star Wars in order to bring in the kids so that you can actually have lifelong fans.

The world is big enough for both of them.

 

[MajesticLion]

Filoni writes for the 12/13-year olds...but that's what Lucas intended Star Wars to be for.
Andor is written for the Grown Ups.

As a grown up I recognize that Andor is the superior version of Star Wars, but you NEED the "Filoni" Star Wars in order to bring in the kids so that you can actually have lifelong fans.

The world is big enough for both of them.

Yep.

You'd think they'd have learned from seeing the D&D fiasco with Game of Thrones, but the suits love trying to force square pegs in round holes. All that "hurr durr too many space wizards hurr fan service" talk is silly.

 

[Formerly Black Trash]

Filoni writes for the 12/13-year olds...but that's what Lucas intended Star Wars to be for.
Andor is written for the Grown Ups.

As a grown up I recognize that Andor is the superior version of Star Wars, but you NEED the "Filoni" Star Wars in order to bring in the kids so that you can actually have lifelong fans.

The world is big enough for both of them.

Yall keep saying this
But what was for 13 year olds then and what is deemed for 13 year olds now has been dumbed down a lot
shyt, even look at shyt compared to the 90s

And it doesn't have to be

 

[KalKal]

Yall keep saying this
But what was for 13 year olds then and what is deemed for 13 year 9lds now has been dumbed down a lot
shyt, even look at shyt compared to the 90s

And it doesn't have to be

I can't actually disagree with this particular statement. It's true that a "Rated PG" movie from 1980 like Empire Strikes Back would be rated PG-13 today even without any changes. (And if you go back further, the "G" rated "Planet of the Apes" would ALSO be PG-13 today).

But the original trilogy was STILL aimed at a younger crowd than Andor.