You can't even admit that that shyt with Bey was bad. You can't be taken seriously in this discussion.
Spin: When did you finally realize that Jay Z's discography is borderline trash?
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You can't even admit that that shyt with Bey was bad. You can't be taken seriously in this discussion.
Smitty Belafonte
All Star
Can’t change history folks
Jean Jacket
NOPE
1998.
Jean Jacket
NOPE
Jay Z is a old ass hip hop pioneer.
Difference is, he knows how to own his marketing.
Beyonce is career driven and materialistic.
Match made in heaven.
Difference is, he knows how to own his marketing.
Beyonce is career driven and materialistic.
Match made in heaven.
That was a jay elect album.
Playaz Eyez
Veteran
No way in hell was I gonna listen to that The Carters album.
bigbadbossup2012
Biggest baddest boss
He's not the goat just the best rapper alive. Pac is the goat
Heavy_Handz
Superstar
Mike the Executioner
What went on up there? Poppers and weird sex!
I wouldn't say Jay has a bad discography, but I do believe people are more lenient with his bad albums than they are with Nas' bad albums and I don't get it. Yeah, I'm bringing up Nas because this is a spin-off of a thread about him.
LIke @Inspect Her Deck saying that Nas' discography is twice as bad and I'm just like.......really? I don't know where all these horrible albums are. It goes back to what I said in a previous thread where people only look at albums in two ways: Classic or trash. If you can't play something front to back or some of the songs are forgettable, then the album isn't worth listening to.
Let me put it this way: I don't think Kingdom Come is a good album. I don't think The Blueprint 3 is a good album. But they're not worth throwing away in my opinion. Kingdom Come has the first couple tracks on it that are bangers, BP3 has the first couple tracks on it and "A Star is Born," along with some songs that everybody hates but I like ("Venus vs. Mars," "Reminder"). So I wouldn't throw either of them away. They're just not highlights in Jay's career.
And with Nas, it's the same thing. Street's Disciple is all over the place as an album, especially in the second half, but the good tracks help keep me from throwing it away. The only Nas album I don't think is worth keeping around is Nasir. I think you can get rid of it and it won't impact his discography at all. With Jay, you can get rid of MCHG and it will make his discography better, especially since his albums post-retirement have been shaky except for two (American Gangster, 4:44).
The last thing I'll say is that Jay is a great sequencer. He knew that making Kingdom Come and BP3 top heavy at least helps the quality. You can stop playing the albums at the halfway point and you'll be okay. You don't even need the second half, so you'll come away with a good/classic EP at least.
LIke @Inspect Her Deck saying that Nas' discography is twice as bad and I'm just like.......really? I don't know where all these horrible albums are. It goes back to what I said in a previous thread where people only look at albums in two ways: Classic or trash. If you can't play something front to back or some of the songs are forgettable, then the album isn't worth listening to.
Let me put it this way: I don't think Kingdom Come is a good album. I don't think The Blueprint 3 is a good album. But they're not worth throwing away in my opinion. Kingdom Come has the first couple tracks on it that are bangers, BP3 has the first couple tracks on it and "A Star is Born," along with some songs that everybody hates but I like ("Venus vs. Mars," "Reminder"). So I wouldn't throw either of them away. They're just not highlights in Jay's career.
And with Nas, it's the same thing. Street's Disciple is all over the place as an album, especially in the second half, but the good tracks help keep me from throwing it away. The only Nas album I don't think is worth keeping around is Nasir. I think you can get rid of it and it won't impact his discography at all. With Jay, you can get rid of MCHG and it will make his discography better, especially since his albums post-retirement have been shaky except for two (American Gangster, 4:44).
The last thing I'll say is that Jay is a great sequencer. He knew that making Kingdom Come and BP3 top heavy at least helps the quality. You can stop playing the albums at the halfway point and you'll be okay. You don't even need the second half, so you'll come away with a good/classic EP at least.
most artist don't even have discographies
lmao at drake, he's own fanbase don't even remember the names of his albums
albums ain't been relevant since the early 2000s
with that said, Jay-Z's album always have wack songs on their because he tries to appeal to multiple audiences and demographics, that's the whole business model of an album, instead of people buying singles of the single they like, people from different demographics buy the album and listen to the songs they like.
lmao at drake, he's own fanbase don't even remember the names of his albums
albums ain't been relevant since the early 2000s
with that said, Jay-Z's album always have wack songs on their because he tries to appeal to multiple audiences and demographics, that's the whole business model of an album, instead of people buying singles of the single they like, people from different demographics buy the album and listen to the songs they like.
Eastside Get The Money
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I’ll put it like this
Im born in ‘90. And get up on hard knock life, can I get a, big pimpin.
Then freshmen year of high school my mans who had an older brother out me up on RD.
I was like “why Hov don’t rhyme like this still???”
RD and AG are the only great Jay Z albums. Vol 1 is a personal favorite but you can argue about it. Other than that he just has a verse every now and then
Im born in ‘90. And get up on hard knock life, can I get a, big pimpin.
Then freshmen year of high school my mans who had an older brother out me up on RD.
I was like “why Hov don’t rhyme like this still???”
RD and AG are the only great Jay Z albums. Vol 1 is a personal favorite but you can argue about it. Other than that he just has a verse every now and then
Metal Face
Superstar
I love how people completely ignore those two trash ass R Kelly collab albums in Jay's discog 
the caribbac00n is a idiot, but he is not far off. Jay has alot of holes and its weird given in the space were in from when this was created.
that now it seems theres this narrative and push for him to be seen by everyone as the GOAT(fittingly so, i noticed hes been in overdrive since he became a Billionaire). but he has as much flaws in his discog as some say nas does.
that now it seems theres this narrative and push for him to be seen by everyone as the GOAT(fittingly so, i noticed hes been in overdrive since he became a Billionaire). but he has as much flaws in his discog as some say nas does.