Spin: When did you finally realize that Jay Z's discography is borderline trash?

[Billy Ocean]

I take that as you agree that Jay has a discography full of forgettable or downright wack albums, breh. Thanks for your input.

 

[QuintessentialMan]

Jay has some duds but BP2 isn't one of them. It reminds me of another forced double LP in Streets Disciple in that if I cut the fat there's still enough really good songs to make it a quality body of work.

I like BP2 and it was a commercial hit but we have to compare it to AEOM and LAD.
It is not standing up to those 2 at all. All 3 albums had bloat and unnecessary tracks but BP2 is solid last among the three.
to be honest i liked the filler on LAD Another bytch and nasty are obviously p diddy influenced tracks for the ladies and radioplay
I never bothered with Streets Disciple. It felt like a dud from the jump.

 

[prince_peoples]

vol 1
vol 2
R.D
american gangsta
blue print

i still bump these albums on the regular

 

[Kinguno]

He's at a 45% success rate

Let us not forget the two albums with R Kelly and that shyt with that Rock Band


His MTV unplugged is

 

[T.H.E. Goat]

It is a classic and even if you think it's not it's still a better record than Stillmatic.

If you say so...


But I know that I'd rather listen to 2nd Childhood 15 times than listen to the 15 songs on American Gangster

 

[QuintessentialMan]

He's at a 45% success rate

Let us not forget the two albums with R Kelly and that shyt with that Rock Band


His MTV unplugged is

His live performance of Takeover at MTV unplugged was

Then ether dropped the next day

 

[Billy Ocean]

If you say so...


But I know that I'd rather listen to 2nd Childhood 15 times than listen to the 15 songs on American Gangster

 

[James Dean]

Meh cant agree but I respect it.

My thoughts on Jay's work pretty much echos his own from when he ranked them jawns a few yrs back.

1. Reasonable Doubt (Classic)

2. The Blueprint (Classic)

3. The Black Album (Classic)

4. Vol. 2 (Classic)

5. American Gangster (4 1/2, cohesive)

6. Magna Carta (fukkwit, Tom Ford, Oceans, Beach, On the Run, Grail)

7. Vol. 1 (Sunshine kills this album…fukk… Streets, Where I’m from, You Must Love Me…)

8. BP3 (Sorry critics, it’s good. Empire (Gave Frank a run for his money))

9. Dynasty (Intro alone…)

10. Vol. 3 (Pimp C verse alone… oh, So Ghetto)

11. BP2 (Too many songs. fukking Guru and Hip Hop, ha)

12. Kingdom Come (First game back, don’t shoot me)

 

[GPBear]

Jay'z the best businessman in hip-hop, and part of being a businessman is selling trash like it's gold. Pretty much like Glengarry Glen Ross.

He successfully went door-to-door and convinced millions that his album was the best and they should invest in his discography, the same way a shady real estate agent goes door-to-door and convinces someone to buy a timeshare in the middle of a swamp.

I respect the hustle, but I've never felt Jay-Z to be much more than a guy who used to rap like Jaz-O who saw all the mafioso shyt going on post-OB4CL and built an empire aimed at the mainstream. He's great at tapping into people who still believe in the American Dream.

 

[the cac mamba]

@GPBear what kinda Charmin ass neg was that

homophobia? youve gotta be shytting me

 

[HiiiPower]

It goes to show you how many sheep we have in the Hip Hop community. Jay told you his debut is a classic, then...BOOM...Reasonable Doubt is a classic.

Jay told you that It Was Written was meh, then...BOOM...It Was Written was meh.

Jay told you that Nas makes 1 hot album every ten years, then...BOOM...Nas only makes 1 hot album every ten years.

Let's just keep it a buck ya'll: Jay has a litany of wack/mediocre albums. Yea, he's a dope MC but when you really think about it he has put out an awful lot of wack albums for a MC that is universally hailed as one of the best ever. Nas' disc resume is far better in quality. Jay made ya'll think otherwise

Has It Was Wriitem ever been seen as "meh" like that tho? Iv always seen it get love..I personally enjoy/listen to it more than Illmatic.

 

[Billy Ocean]

Jay'z the best businessman in hip-hop, and part of being a businessman is selling trash like it's gold. Pretty much like Glengarry Glen Ross.

He successfully went door-to-door and convinced millions that his album was the best and they should invest in his discography, the same way a shady real estate agent goes door-to-door and convinces someone to buy a timeshare in the middle of a swamp.

I respect the hustle, but I've never felt Jay-Z to be much more than a guy who used to rap like Jaz-O who saw all the mafioso shyt going on post-OB4CL and built an empire aimed at the mainstream. He's great at tapping into people who still believe in the American Dream.

 

[GPBear]

@GPBear what kinda Charmin ass neg was that

homophobia? youve gotta be shytting me

Using "dikk riding fakkit" as an insult and then getting upset when someone negs you...

Could you be any whiter?

people get negged everyday, b, keep it movin'

 

[HiiiPower]

It goes to show you how many sheep we have in the Hip Hop community. Jay told you his debut is a classic, then...BOOM...Reasonable Doubt is a classic.

Jay told you that It Was Written was meh, then...BOOM...It Was Written was meh.

Jay told you that Nas makes 1 hot album every ten years, then...BOOM...Nas only makes 1 hot album every ten years.

Let's just keep it a buck ya'll: Jay has a litany of wack/mediocre albums. Yea, he's a dope MC but when you really think about it he has put out an awful lot of wack albums for a MC that is universally hailed as one of the best ever. Nas' disc resume is far better in quality. Jay made ya'll think otherwise

Has It Was Written ever been seen as "meh" like that tho? Iv always seen it get love..I personally enjoy/listen to it more than Illmatic.

 

[the cac mamba]

Using "dikk riding fakkit" as an insult and then getting upset when someone negs you...

Could you be any whiter?

people get negged everyday, b, keep it movin'

like i just coined that phrase an hour ago

must have touched a nerve tho