Spin: More Women need to start being honest with men.

[www.THUG.com]

I remember this guy waiting for a train asked me if I had a boyfriend. I said yes (i didnt), then he said "do you cheat"?
they dont stop

That's why my ultimate rejection line is "You can do better than me". Its a self esteem booster thats strokes their ego without that harsh feeling of rejection.

 

[tater]

While there are women out there that do lie to themselves.

A lot of men do not go up to women and say things like : "I want to get to know you and have a f*ck buddy." "I only want sex and I don't find you up to standard to have a serious relationship with you, but you are good enought to sleep with" They don't say, "I am talking to multiple women and I also want to casually talk to you and have sex with you." They dont say I'm not ready to be in a relationship any time



What I'm getting at is in that thread men want women to be honest up front and even blunt about what they think when they are approached but don't apply the same thing when they are approaching women. Even if it leads down a path that is more damaging then just saying getting a no if they ask for a number. It's in the OP bolded. My point is people are doing things to avoid reactions they don't want. It's about being realistic.

Oh okay. I get you. I feel like some guys do this when they tell women they're not looking for anything serious. Us women feel like we're special though and will change his mind, but that only works on rare occasions. I think the tinders and all those other apps have really steered the types of interactions you are speaking of. Most people go on there just to hook up and succeed with minimal effort.

 

[The ADD]

I see the direction but this isn't nearly as black and white as you make it.

 

[Orange cream shake]

Women cant do that OP cuz these dudes are crazy, will flip out, pull out a gun etc etc...

its safe to say "i have a bf" cuz it
1. safe way to say no
2. puts it in the guys mind he better not try any funny shyt or some mythical 6'5 240 pound bf might be lurking


OP dont kno that tho cuz its a dude masquerading as a female

Op has never got went off on Ina busy ass grocery store because you say thank but I'm good. That walk to the car.

 

[Chelsea Bridge]

Sometimes I'm honest and other times I'll say I have a boyfriend depends on the vibe I get from the guy when he first approaches. Some dudes need to be lied too otherwise they won't leave you alone.

 

[The Mad Titan]

That's excuses. It's rude you can be honest and not rude. Who cares if she isn't down? At least if she is looking for a relationship she knows you aren't. If she isn't she knows y'all are on the same page.

I think saying I'm not attracted to you so a stranger is rude vs. saying no thank you or just no period. Even saying I'm talking to someone vs I'm not attracted to you at all.




I'm talking about after, she says well I'm looking for someting more serious and he follows up with "Well let's just see where it goes"

These aren't exact things these are just examples. People do things in general for convineince and less drama, for women even safety. Don't ask for something you aren't willing to give. There are risks on both sides.




That doesn't answer which is more damaging. Someoone thinking the other person has an SO or stringing someone a long for months with lies?

Well I'll be honest, if im looking to smash and smash only, as a guy why in the world would I be upfront/rude out the gate unless thats just in my DNA when men know most women don't respond to that from most men

Women dont respond well to random men coming up to them being rude, even if they actually want to sex the dude. So men wont do it. Your rudes boy's dont care if a woman is upfront or not because its all about them, they gonna do what they gonna do.

Most men would like a woman to be straight up and not them chasing them when they know they arent interested at all. Most women would like men to be straight up about sex and not have them wondering bout a relationship.


Then problem is men want sex and woman like to that companionship and attention. So neither want to bend.

 

[Diondon]

I detect sarcasm

 

[The Mad Titan]

This is exactly my point, now you're making excuses as to why you shouldn't be upfront about your intentions and why'd you'd rather place the responsibility on the woman to assume what you mean even though you're not actually saying what you mean clearly.

Tell me the difference in the two, if a woman approaches you out the blue and hits you with "I'm not looking for anything serious but I'd like to get to know you"

The 1st thing that's going to pop in your mind is? "I guess she's just looking for a friend?" People dont announce friendships off jump.

Come on bruh

 

[Raava]

I detect sarcasm

U smart

Op has never got went off on Ina busy ass grocery store because you say thank but I'm good. That walk to the car.

I have been grabbed, followed, cursed out, and asked further questions about cheating and friends. The bolded was my point.

 

[wickedsm]

That's why my ultimate rejection line is "You can do better than me". Its a self esteem booster thats strokes their ego without that harsh feeling of rejection.

I like that. But the same men here who say "I have a bf" is a problem would say that a woman who says that is just compliment fishing, then complain that he gave said compliments and she still said no.


There's no foolproof way to turn somebody down, doesn't matter how polite, clever, detailed or honest you are.

 

[Spuffy]

Can I just say earphones are a god send in these situations

 

[ShaneTheRogue]

so you want a guy to roll up and be like "hey I want casual sex from you and if your personality is tolerable, I may consider making you my main girl"


or "hey I just want to fukk you"




you will respond positively to that women


Or shall the games continue

Yeah only on the internet does this even seem to be an issue. If someone cold approaches you asking for your name and number and comments on your appearance/body.... What do you think they want? They want sex or a relationship that involves sex.

But honest discussions about this topic is difficult because the opposing sides always jumps to extremes in either direction.

"Women like being lied too"

No. Nobody likes being lied too. This is cognitive dissonance.

"I tell them I have a boyfriend so they leave me alone"

The type of guys who would respect the fact you have a dude mostly are the same guys would would respect the fact that you simply aren't interested whether you're single or not. Your relationship status don't mean anything to the overly pushy and persistent type. They gonna act an ass regardless.


I feel that as long as the approacher doesn't make promises they know they can't keep or misrepresent themselves and moves on if the approached respectfully declines then what's the issue?

 

[Action Mike]

Anyway

Brehs continue to approach and do you, some will be open some will reject. That's life. Just take notes from men that are good at it and kim.

Back and forth with a womans pov (usually their personal one that dismisses all external factors) on this will come to the same conclusion and a headache.

 

[The Mad Titan]

U smart

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Why cant you just be upfront with your feelings rae!

 

[Raava]

Why cant you just be upfront with your feelings rae!

It's theColi