Spin: More Women need to start being honest with men.

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In certain situations yes.


"What it do"
"When we getting up out of here"
"You leaving with me tonight right"



I've heard it all, there are the rare occasion where I've had a chick be upfront about wanting just a quick smash. But most the time its a game of connect four, and its up to the man to figure it out and make the move.






Over all a man will let a woman know early on if he's mostly interested in sex, friendship, companionship or a relationship. Maybe not jump, but when they get that 1st call or text at 12-2: am "Hey ma, you trying to come over I'd like to see you" it should be clear :patrice:

"it should be clear"

the only thing that's clear is when people are actually clear about their intentions, you want the woman to make assumptions based on the time she's being called, this is no different then the "netflix and chill" bait and switch, nikkas want women to make assumptions on some "you knew why I asked you to come" type shyt instead of actually making it clear why you want the woman to come through.

Implying something is not the same thing as being upfront and direct.

"you should have known why I asked you to come through" isn't the same as "I told you exactly why I wanted you to come so there's no room for assumptions or confusion"
 

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the point is, if she's the type of woman who's only interested in sex, she won't mind the guy being upfront about his desire to have sex, the problem is that nikkas don't want to risk reducing their odds of getting sex so they'd much rather play games and rationalize it with bullshyt like "women want to be lied to".


:francis:
if you are approaching randomly, you don't know what type of woman she actually is, thus games must be played:francis:
 

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But to the second part, I think men are pretty straight forward with there intentions. I think alot of times women just don't want to believe what it is or "change" a man.


You don't have to say much to know that a dude is only there for the sex, most dudes arent keeping female company because they like being friends and just hanging out with them. If they like all that they usually are trying to lock them down unless they have other things in life they are trying to deal with which usually still we let women know.


If a dude steps to you and s say's i'd like to get to know you, he probably means it.


Dudes are pretty upfront at 1st, its later on that you need to start worrying.

:comeon: While there are women out there that do lie to themselves.

A lot of men do not go up to women and say things like : "I want to get to know you and have a f*ck buddy." "I only want sex and I don't find you up to standard to have a serious relationship with you, but you are good enought to sleep with" They don't say, "I am talking to multiple women and I also want to casually talk to you and have sex with you." They dont say I'm not ready to be in a relationship any time

Well what are you getting at?

On an approach basis?

I'll just keep saying whatever I can to not hurt their feelings and keep my safety. I've been cussed out, threatened, and I'm cool with lying to not have to deal with it.

:yeshrug:

What I'm getting at is in that thread men want women to be honest up front and even blunt about what they think when they are approached but don't apply the same thing when they are approaching women. Even if it leads down a path that is more damaging then just saying getting a no if they ask for a number. It's in the OP bolded. My point is people are doing things to avoid reactions they don't want. It's about being realistic.
 

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Sure but most women not gonna like hearin dudes just wanna smash tho so that might not be the best course of action. However wording it differently and bein considerate and respectful could wrk, idk.

why wouldn't women not like hearing the truth up front?

We always hear the tired rhetoric of "women need to choose better", but how are they going to make the best choices when men are intentionally lying as to not reduce the chances of them smashing?

:patrice:
 

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Women cant do that OP cuz these dudes are crazy, will flip out, pull out a gun etc etc...

its safe to say "i have a bf" cuz it
1. safe way to say no
2. puts it in the guys mind he better not try any funny shyt or some mythical 6'5 240 pound bf might be lurking


OP dont kno that tho cuz its a dude masquerading as a female
 

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if you are approaching randomly, you don't know what type of woman she actually is, thus games must be played:francis:

Games are played by children, if you want to know what type of person someone is, you get to know them and if you're only interested in smashing, you say that up front so she can make the decision whether or not to proceed and if she does proceed, she's doing so knowing what the male wants from her, no assumptions, no confusion, no "you knew what I wanted even though I didn't say it but you knew"
 

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Sure but most women not gonna like hearin dudes just wanna smash tho so that might not be the best course of action. However wording it differently and bein considerate and respectful could wrk, idk.

Why not? We are supposed to say, No, I'm not attached to you. Why can't a guy say, I only want sex and nothing more or whatever is they want?
 

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Women cant do that OP cuz these dudes are crazy, will flip out, pull out a gun etc etc...

its safe to say "i have a bf" cuz it
1. safe way to say no
2. puts it in the guys mind he better not try any funny shyt or some mythical 6'5 240 pound bf might be lurking


OP dont kno that tho cuz its a dude masquerading as a female

:mjlol: yes I'm definitely a man.
 

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"it should be clear"

the only thing that's clear is when people are actually clear about their intentions, you want the woman to make assumptions based on the time she's being called, this is no different then the "netflix and chill" bait and switch, nikkas want women to make assumptions on some "you knew why I asked you to come" type shyt instead of actually making it clear why you want the woman to come through.

Implying something is not the same thing as being upfront and direct.

"you should have known why I asked you to come through" isn't the same as "I told you exactly why I wanted you to come so there's no room for assumptions or confusion"
Sure if thats what you want to go with, I have zero sympathy for any male or female that gets a call after meeting someone the 1st time at 2 am in the morning asking to come over and they are shocked its all about sex. What else is it going to be about at 2 am?


But your right, however i listed plenty of examples of where its clear also.
 

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why wouldn't women not like hearing the truth up front?

We always hear the tired rhetoric of "women need to choose better", but how are they going to make the best choices when men are intentionally lying as to not reduce the chances of them smashing?

:patrice:

Why not? We are supposed to say, No, I'm not attached to you. Why can't a guy say, I only want sex and nothing more or whatever is they want?
Lol aight then 100% straight up, what happens happens. I just think some women are gonna be turned off from it, but they have the right to feel a way and act on it, on to the next if it's a no :manny:
 

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so you want a guy to roll up and be like "hey I want casual sex from you and if your personality is tolerable, I may consider making you my main girl"


:stopitslime:or "hey I just want to fukk you"




:usure:you will respond positively to that women


Or shall the games continue:usure:


For what reason would you not say that? Just curious.
 
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