Spin: More Women need to start being honest with men.

[Diondon]

U smart

I have been grabbed, followed, cursed out, and asked further questions about cheating and friends. The bolded was my point.

How honest should they be exactly?

 

[Matt504]

Tell me the difference in the two, if a woman approaches you out the blue and hits you with "I'm not looking for anything serious but I'd like to get to know you"

The 1st thing that's going to pop in your mind is? "I guess she's just looking for a friend?" People dont announce friendships off jump.

Come on bruh

this is very simple.

clarity >>> assumptions.

Imagine if she does just want to get to know you and asks you to come over and you assume she wants sex, that's how people end up in bad situations because the intent wasn't made clear.

again:

clarity >>> assumptions.

 

[thekingsmen]

Honesty goes across the board.

 

[BmoreGorilla]

That's excuses. It's rude you can be honest and not rude. Who cares if she isn't down? At least if she is looking for a relationship she knows you aren't. If she isn't she knows y'all are on the same page.

I think saying I'm not attracted to you so a stranger is rude vs. saying no thank you or just no period. Even saying I'm talking to someone vs I'm not attracted to you at all.




I'm talking about after, she says well I'm looking for someting more serious and he follows up with "Well let's just see where it goes"

These aren't exact things these are just examples. People do things in general for convineince and less drama, for women even safety. Don't ask for something you aren't willing to give. There are risks on both sides.




That doesn't answer which is more damaging. Someoone thinking the other person has an SO or stringing someone a long for months with lies?

Stringing someone along for months with lies is definitely more damaging. At least when lying about have a SO you might not have to see that person again

 

[The Mad Titan]

this is very simple.

clarity >>> assumptions.

Imagine if she does just want to get to know you and asks you to come over and you assume she wants sex, that's how people end up in bad situations because the intent wasn't made clear.

again:

clarity >>> assumptions.

Your right, next time you see a ugly kid don't lie to them be clear. Your friend show you there ugly baby, tell him nahhh homie your baby ugly. Your girl ask if she's getting bigger, dont like to her tell her shes not even attractive to you anymore really.


Clarity>>>assumptions

#FYF

 

[Matt504]

Your right, next time you see a ugly kid don't lie to them be clear. Your friend show you there ugly baby, tell him nahhh homie your baby ugly. Your girl ask if she's getting bigger, dont like to her tell her shes not even attractive to you anymore really.


Clarity>>>assumptions

#FYF

Now we have to jump to the extremes of calling people's children ugly as if that's a valid comparison to being vague because you're trying to get p*ssy.



You nikkas will travel to the ends of the earth to hold on to fukked up behaviors.

 

[VFib]

Can I just say earphones are a god send in these situations

They sure are.

Just saying I'm not interested usually works for me.

If they keep talking I keep walking. I'm not going back and forth about why I am not interested in you.

 

[Draje]

It's weird how the point of this topic seems to be going over dude's heads.

 

[The Mad Titan]

Now we have to jump to the extremes of calling people's children ugly as if that's a valid comparison to being vague because you're trying to get p*ssy.



You nikkas will travel to the ends of the earth to hold on to fukked up behaviors.

nahh nikka, you saying in dealing with women you need to be clear even if it comes off rude why? because there women and they can't understand if its any other way is what its sounding like to me coming from you.


its not extreme to be yo I really want to smash and thats it, but it is extreme to be upfront and tell someone they kid is ugly if they ask or if your girl looks "fat" if she ask. All of a sudden it changes and we should have tact.


No you should have tact in everything you do.

There is no tactful way to say I just want to smash, just like there is no tactful way to tell someone there kid is ugly.

 

[audemarzz]

Im here because spotless made the thread praise be to the queen

 

[The Mad Titan]

Im here because spotless made the thread praise be to the queen

I'd tried to simp @Spotlessmind but my intentions weren't honest enough

 

[Matt504]

nahh nikka, you saying in dealing with women you need to be clear even if it comes off rude why? because there women and they can't understand if its any other way is what its sounding like to me coming from you.


its not extreme to be yo I really want to smash and thats it, but it is extreme to be upfront and tell someone they kid is ugly if they ask or if your girl looks "fat" if she ask. All of a sudden it changes and we should have tact.


No you should have tact in everything you do.

There is no tactful way to say I just want to smash, just like there is no tactful way to tell someone there kid is ugly.

If your only intentions are to have sex with a woman and you make that clear to her and she finds it to be rude, then you two are probably not compatible, you don't have to walk up and say "I want to fukk", but in the course of the conversation you can tactfully say, "I'm not interested in any meaningful relationships but I'm attracted to you and I'm interested in having sex with you". If she's with it, she'll let it be known, and if she isn't she'll let it be known.

I'm not suggesting that women can't understand it any other way, what I'm actually saying is clarity is always better than placing the responsibility on someone else to make assumptions.

 

[Raava]

That's why my ultimate rejection line is "You can do better than me". Its a self esteem booster thats strokes their ego without that harsh feeling of rejection.

I like this, but then I think that leads to more conversation.

Oh okay. I get you. I feel like some guys do this when they tell women they're not looking for anything serious. Us women feel like we're special though and will change his mind, but that only works on rare occasions. I think the tinders and all those other apps have really steered the types of interactions you are speaking of. Most people go on there just to hook up and succeed with minimal effort.

I agree, sometimes women lie to themselves and men don't even have to. I'm more refering to those who clearly know they don't want anything but still say things like "Well lets see where this goes" or whatever will lead to sex or sex buddy type thing. I think any woman on a dating app should assume it's for sex....even Christian Mingle But that doesn't mean a guy shouldn't be honest.

I see the direction but this isn't nearly as black and white as you make it.

Explain please.

Sometimes I'm honest and other times I'll say I have a boyfriend depends on the vibe I get from the guy when he first approaches. Some dudes need to be lied too otherwise they won't leave you alone.

I think it's funy that sometimes even that doesn't work. I was honest and he still pressed and I couldn't go anywhere because he was my Uber driver. Even I have a boyfriend.

It's weird how the point of this topic seems to be going over dude's heads.

I was surprised at first.

How honest should they be exactly?

If you know you want different things be honest. A guy doesn't have to have sex with someone to see she wants a relationship and he knows he doesn't and doesn't see her that way. There are ways to be 100 with someone and not nasty or rude, but the problem for some is that it doesn't get them to their end game.

 

[Neuromancer]

That's why my ultimate rejection line is "You can do better than me". Its a self esteem booster thats strokes their ego without that harsh feeling of rejection.

Don't lie to that man.

 

[Raava]

Im here because spotless made the thread praise be to the queen

I'm just a poster.

I'd tried to simp @Spotlessmind but my intentions weren't honest enough