Spin: More Women need to start being honest with men.

[Ronnie Lott]

Yup, and how many of those numbers are actually going to turn into anything?

Do you identify and empathize with Kent

 

[SheWantTheD]

Do you identify and empathize with Kent

Identify? Not really because I'm not 5'2 and I don't put women, sex or pussay on a pedestal like he does. Plus once I make a mistake when it comes to women, I learn from it and rarely if at all make the same mistake again.

Now do I empathize with Kent? Yeah. He's a fellow young brother struggling to get a single chick interested in him (or at least those that he wants). He's 21 almost 22 and he has never kissed a woman let alone have sex, and he's not the type of dude that's just tryna smash and dash or do women wrong. He just wants one solid chick he could grow and build with.

His videos aren't a good look, but most people would feel the same way (especially women) if they had a 0% success rate when it came to dating, relationships etc.

 

[Ghost_In_A_Shell]

You don't know that. How do you know he just wasn't approaching women for practice? Most of them probably said no especially if they could tell that his home boy was helping him approach and talk to women. He could turn out to be a cool dude and anything could happen, now you don't know cause you rejected him.

migga ,i saw it................

 

[SheWantTheD]

migga ,i saw it................

You saw what? You somehow saw this dude ain't shyt right?

 

[Lady.Libra.]

Man, I don't want to hear that. You can apply that to every situation in life. Because you had one bad experience, you should completely write off whatever it was that resulted in the bad experience. It's like people who say men or women ain't shyt because they've been done wrong by someone. So now they should just give up on relationships.

Well, then don't hear it.

Your logic doesn't apply because it's taken out of context and you are thinking in extremes. A few women on here have shared the same experience - It is real, not something imagined...and it shapes how you interact with men when you see certain behaviors he displays when he doesn't get the response he wants.

Something to think about - How many times do you have to touch the [proverbial] stove to find out it burns?

 

[Ghost_In_A_Shell]

You saw what? You somehow saw this dude ain't shyt right?

you really determined to get into some type of argument......how about you stop internalizing the situation and since when am i not allowed to make the decision to say "no"?

 

[Ronnie Lott]

Identify? Not really because I'm not 5'2 and I don't put women, sex or pussay on a pedestal like he does. Plus once I make a mistake when it comes to women, I learn from it and rarely if at all make the same mistake again.

Now do I empathize with Kent? Yeah. He's a fellow young brother struggling to get a single chick interested in him (or at least those that he wants). He's 21 almost 22 and he has never kissed a woman let alone have sex, and he's not the type of dude that's just tryna smash and dash or do women wrong. He just wants one solid chick he could grow and build with.

His videos aren't a good look, but most people would feel the same way (especially women) if they had a 0% success rate when it came to dating, relationships etc.

Kents main problem is that he is very very stubborn and unwilling to take responsibility for his shortcomings. He blames females for everything. He projects and is unwilling to work on his flaws. He is one of the most socially unaware individuals walkin the face of the earth. Let's be honest, dude is slightly slow/mentally ill/ is autistic or suffers from some other mental condition.

 

[SheWantTheD]

Well, then don't hear it.

Your logic doesn't apply because it's taken out of context and you are thinking in extremes. A few women on here have shared the same experience - It is real, not something imagined...and it shapes how you interact with men when you see certain behaviors he displays when he doesn't get the response he wants.

Something to think about - How many times do you have to touch the [proverbial] stove to find out it burns?

Nope, don't wanna hear it. If the man doesn't care when you say that you aren't interested, what's the difference in you saying your already taken for? He doesn't care and will still be the aggressive, rapist, sexual predator man that he is.. right?

 

[Piff Perkins]

lol

Women don't owe you shyt, stop demanding otherwise. A woman being nice to you doesn't mean she wants to fukk you, nor is she obligated to state her intentions. Just as you aren't obligated to state yours. If she not your gf then stop expecting shyt.

Really surprised to see people here with sympathy for Kent's beta tears.

 

[SheWantTheD]

you really determined to get into some type of argument......how about you stop internalizing the situation and since when am i not allowed to make the decision to say "no"?

There's no arguing here. But don't lie so you have an excuse as to why you rejected him. There's nothing wrong if you just weren't interested in him. You assumed he was a player and somehow not looking for anything serious based off the fact that he approached women other then you. But as you said, not every women is going to say yes so him just approaching one woman whether he gets rejected or not is counter-productive.

 

[Raava]

This is a trap. As a woman that had to sleep with a rifle under her bed for a year because a dude stalked me at my apartment, I can tell u this is a trap.

Dudes will not be able to understand the place of vulnerability a woman has to operate from when it comes to self-preservation. I was with a homeboy once and saw how blunt he turned down some dude trying to convince him to buy something, whereas I would have been extra accommodating while trying to convey my not wanting the product.

Why? It's safety. So people need to stop telling women to be blunt and upfront when rejecting dudes when there have been several incidents that have resulted in fatalities with women not wanting these dudes. Some dudes really do feel very much entitled to ur attention and will get verbally and physically aggressive in their persistence.

Luckily this isn't most men, but hell it only takes one incident.
You can ignore them, respond kindly that ur not interested, be a bytch...it doesn't matter b/c ur answer isn't yes.

I'm all for honesty, but my safety comes first.

This was sarcasm. This was why I made the thread:

Yea

I'm talking about a women trying to get clear intentions and a guy while still pushing things to sex not giving clear answers or leading her on knowing they are on different pages.

I'm not absolving the responsibility of women. I'm saying to those who ranted about a woman not being straight up when rejecting to deal with less drama, awkwardness, to get the outcome they want, and risk someone who can't take rejection well but another thread advocate lying to a woman when the stakes are higher for the same exact reasons. I'm not talking to the men that are 100 and I don't think all men lie like that.

I agree. I agree with all that.

I am talking about lying to: to deal with less drama, awkwardness, get the out come you want and risk someone who can't take rejection well. I'm not talking about a women not being smart (it happens) or a man being psycho (it happens). It's about hypocrisy and being realistic.

In the other thread someone was asking women what they were doing to get other women to stop lying about boyfriends We all know how people are and what happens in the real world. I just found it crazy that saying you have a bf and you don't is so wrong but then lying about your intentions is ok.

 

[ultraflexed]

Yup, and how many of those numbers are actually going to turn into anything?

That's the beauty of it, it only takes 1.

 

[wickedsm]

I don't disagree with your actions. The women on this thread are saying that telling a dude straight up "I'm not interested" resulted in them being cursed out, thrown things at etc when that's most likely bs 99% of the time.

i always give common courtesy, if someone speaks to me i speak back. even if its just a hey. old guys, young guys,any kind of guy.
i dont think ive ever used the exact words not interested but ive def used no thank you and have gotten a fukk you any way bytch
you not that cute bytch, i didnt want to talk to you any way bytch, stupid bytch,stupid whore

so please believe its possible.

ive never had a physically violent reaction to a no thankyou, but ive had men get physical in their original approach to begin with.
true story i almost hit my ex husband upside the head with a bottle in the bar one time for grabbin my ass like a crazy [we were seperated at the time and not there together, i wasnt expecting him]

i know theres also women who cant just accept a graceful no either, or think its perfectly fine to touch on male strangers bodies.

dont underestimate the fukked up shyt that other people can or will do.

 

[ultraflexed]

true story i almost hit my ex husband upside the head with a bottle in the bar one time for grabbin my ass like a crazy [we were seperated at the time and not there together, i wasnt expecting him]

Great post by the way...more on this, wow what a reaction to a ex-husband!! If you don't mind saying why is he ex-husband and not just husband?

 

[SheWantTheD]

i always give common courtesy, if someone speaks to me i speak back. even if its just a hey. old guys, young guys,any kind of guy.
i dont think ive ever used the exact words not interested but ive def used no thank you and have gotten a fukk you any way bytch
you not that cute bytch, i didnt want to talk to you any way bytch, stupid bytch,stupid whore

so please believe its possible.

ive never had a physically violent reaction to a no thankyou, but ive had men get physical in their original approach to begin with.
true story i almost hit my ex husband upside the head with a bottle in the bar one time for grabbin my ass like a crazy [we were seperated at the time and not there together, i wasnt expecting him]

i know theres also women who cant just accept a graceful no either, or think its perfectly fine to touch on male strangers bodies.

dont underestimate the fukked up shyt that other people can or will do.

hmm okay, I can accept that.