SPIN: Boyz II Men vs. Jodeci vs. H-Town vs. Silk

[Wacky D]

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[rapbeats]

Dope thread...

Now IMO, BIIM and Jodeci are pretty much the top two, then there's everybody else. H-Town had a nice few hits, Silk had a nice few, Hi-Five had a nice few, so did a number of other groups in the 90s. But as far as consistently putting out songs that were killin' it, it's all about BIIM and Jodeci. Tony Toni Tone had a nice run too, I'd probably put them third place.

Unfortunately that's the downside to R&B groups in the 90s- none of them muhfukkas could seem to stay together. It's like the group would get maybe 3 albums off and hit people with a gang of hits, but then they'd just split outta nowhere and that'd be that. They don't start fukkin with eachother again til they get old and it's time to do some shows 'nshyt... I think the decade woulda been even greater if most of these nikkas (and the female groups too) coulda made it more than 5 years without falling out or fallin' off.

excellent post and description how it use to go down. thats cause those groups were either thrown together by people like baby faces, L.A. , etc. people who knew what sounding great together. and a lot of those artist were wanna be SOLO artist from the get go. they did the group thing to blow up then go back solo like they always planned. the only groups that lasted were the ones where it was families(jo jo kci). and even then those groups would eventually break up cause someone always got gassed up on going solo.

 

[Dettol]

Dope thread...

Now IMO, BIIM and Jodeci are pretty much the top two, then there's everybody else. H-Town had a nice few hits, Silk had a nice few, Hi-Five had a nice few, so did a number of other groups in the 90s. But as far as consistently putting out songs that were killin' it, it's all about BIIM and Jodeci. Tony Toni Tone had a nice run too, I'd probably put them third place.

Unfortunately that's the downside to R&B groups in the 90s- none of them muhfukkas could seem to stay together. It's like the group would get maybe 3 albums off and hit people with a gang of hits, but then they'd just split outta nowhere and that'd be that. They don't start fukkin with eachother again til they get old and it's time to do some shows 'nshyt... I think the decade woulda been even greater if most of these nikkas (and the female groups too) coulda made it more than 5 years without falling out or fallin' off.

pretty much. only groups to last are boyz ii men (except Michael who left due to his health, and was invited back but wanted a ridiculous amount of money), and mint condition (except keri who left to marry toni braxton, but is still cool with the group). just about every other group had beef, or money problems, label issues or some other sh1t.

just recently i heard chauncey black is suing teddy riley over the blackstreet name. smh

 

[avon barksdale]

jodeci because boy 2 men became a corny pop act..This>>>>>>>>>>>>>all the 90's acts

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[avon barksdale]

In this order

Jodeci
Guy
Tony toni tone
New Edition
Boyz II Men
Mint Condition
Silk
Dru Hill
H Town
Troop
Jagged Edge
blackstreet
after 7
intro

There were so many amazing groups out in the 90s, it really depends on your taste in music. When its all said and done, i think boyz ii men is the most remembered due to their popularity. Jodeci and Guy all day.

good list but you forgot about two...

[ame=http://youtu.be/caNRc1ER8p4]Shai - If I Ever Fall In Love - YouTube[/ame]
[ame="http://youtu.be/x9gZe254o_s"]http://youtu.be/x9gZe254o_s[/ame]

 

[DaRealness]

I have to with Jodeci

 

[newworldafro]

Jodeci...... North Carolina Excellence

 

[theflyest]

Crazy thing about Silk is I couldn't tell you the name of one member in the group

 

[Harry Sax]

as i child i always thought boyz 2 men was a wild pack of fakkits and at 25 yrs old i still feel the same way

fukk them and all of their fakkit ass songs...every last one of em

 

[Wacky D]

we aint saying uptown was a rookie label but a majority of the acts and people running it were rookies compared to much bigger labels like motown, laface.
and though jodeci did have a machine behind them, (not sure about h-town, and i think silk had some help from keith sweat), jodeci still mostly did the work themselves in terms of their music production and writing. that what sets them apart from boyz ii men, h-town and silk as far as musicianship goes. that's all we saying my dude.

side note: tony toni tone vs mint condition is a good comparison. though i would side with mint. but you can't go wrong with either.

again, h-town kept alot of stuff in-house too, and they were younger than the other groups. and i'd bet good money that silk the shockers did as well.

but anyway, im just saying, its not fair for people to be in here saying "oh well, boyz II men had a bigger machine behind them than jodeci", then turn around and just brush off silk & h-town because jodeci was bigger. cuz at least jodeci still had a machine behind them. silk had a regular standard push, and h-town's deal was just sh*tty.

ahh, I thought you rolled with tony tone & them over mint? when did you come around to the winning team?

Yeah that shyt with the terrible brown album cover. that's the album that had "they like it slow" right? struggle music. the song made some noise but they fell off the map at the point and were completely done.

they tried to change up their image (for the better) with the ladies content but it was a dud.

silk album in 1995 had that joint where they singing with the microphones and practicing dance moves (similar to scenes in tlcs creep practicing dance moves)...the one that goes " theres....no...living with you...got me hooked..... on.....everything you do". and also the "go deep" track which also a banger. no huge successful singles, just moderate ones, and the album still went gold.

this one:
Amazon.com: Silk: Music

each of the 3 albums silk did in 90s was quality. personally, i cant say the same or h-town. H-town's best album to me was the beggin' after dark one from 1994.

not sayign silk made legendary achievement, but if you take long break between albums, its not that easy to make a comeback especially if your not a big artists. what im saying is these guys came out outta nowhere and dropped a platinum, quality album, with hits. not many r&b artists (especially a group) can go away for 5 years and comeback strong. especially in the 90s when competition was heavy.

ladies edition was getting alot of luv actually.

but I agree that the album is like half filler tho. way too long, imo.

meh, '99 & '00 were dope, but lets not act like that wasn't the weakest point of '90s r&b. those hits they dropped, wouldn't have made noise in the mid-90s. it wouldn't have even made much noise in '97.

oh is it?

knocking boots
Lick u Up
Keepin My Composure

1, 2, 3.

anything else was a personnel preference. those 3 songs WERE ON FIRE and i was on the west coast banging that H-town getting chicks up on them. I was one of 3 people that even had their first 2 albums. had them on the slow tapes. chicks would ask "who is that?" i would have to literally A&R and sell those fools to chicks. people were not up on H like they should've been.

but lets keep it funky. the later albums started to sound like bootleg versions of the goat group JODECI.

cmon man, aside from knockin boots, those aren't even the biggest hits.

what later albums do you speak of? and if youre referring to "beggin after dark", how could that sound like a bootleg jodeci album when it was clearly better than any LP jodeci had released up to that point.

nah, f*ck that. h-town's 1st 2 joints >>>> jodeci's 1st 2 albums

 

[Wacky D]

BUDDY TRIPPIN
CMON DUN



MY NICCA DINO WENT OUT SIMILAR TO THE VIDEO.
THATS EERIE. AND THAT CHIT HURT.
R.I.P. DINO


R.I.P. ROGER TROUTMAN
SHIRLEY MURDOCK WITH THE SLAM DUNK.
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjRXTy-stnI]H-Town - A Thin Line Between Love and Hate (feat. Shirley Murdock & Roger Troutman [1996] - YouTube[/ame]

THIS WAS THE ILLEST CHIT RIGHT HERE B
ON SOME REAL CHIT
YEA

 

[SmarkMero]

Probably been said, but Boyz II Men. They should still be relevant on the radio today but like back then but that whole RnB Thug shyt really hurt their stride.

 

[rapbeats]

again, h-town kept alot of stuff in-house too, and they were younger than the other groups. and i'd bet good money that silk the shockers did as well.

but anyway, im just saying, its not fair for people to be in here saying "oh well, boyz II men had a bigger machine behind them than jodeci", then turn around and just brush off silk & h-town because jodeci was bigger. cuz at least jodeci still had a machine behind them. silk had a regular standard push, and h-town's deal was just sh*tty.

ahh, I thought you rolled with tony tone & them over mint? when did you come around to the winning team?



ladies edition was getting alot of luv actually.

but I agree that the album is like half filler tho. way too long, imo.

meh, '99 & '00 were dope, but lets not act like that wasn't the weakest point of '90s r&b. those hits they dropped, wouldn't have made noise in the mid-90s. it wouldn't have even made much noise in '97.



cmon man, aside from knockin boots, those aren't even the biggest hits.

what later albums do you speak of? and if youre referring to "beggin after dark", how could that sound like a bootleg jodeci album when it was clearly better than any LP jodeci had released up to that point.

nah, f*ck that. h-town's 1st 2 joints >>>> jodeci's 1st 2 albums

i see you, you must be from houston. thats the only semi logical reason you could make a ridiculous statement such as the bolded. but hey, trolls gone troll.

 

[Dettol]

i see you, you must be from houston. thats the only semi logical reason you could make a ridiculous statement such as the bolded. but hey, trolls gone troll.

Co-sign. Ain't no way in hell H-Town could be ranked on the same tier as Jodeci... whether it's hits, awards, video, vocals, style, albums, sales etc. There is just no way. H-town wasn't anything special besides a few singles. Most would say they were Jodeci rip offs, and got away with it (unlike Dru Hill).

If we were to list the top 10 male r&b groups/bands of the New Jack Swing Era/1990's, H-Town would barely crack the top 10 (or may not even make top 10) from an overall point of view.

 

[Danie84]

This thread made me realize, Dru Hill was the last of the r&b singing group to really carry the torch. Although, Sisqo flamboyancy was out of hand, he could sing with the best of them



[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VE-8sl9-pwE"]Dru Hill - Beauty - YouTube[/ame]



Sisqo was like the Boy Geore and George Michael's of R&B