Spike Lee - She's Got To Have It (Netflix Series)

[Guvnor]

Its not a double standard though. Men who sleep around arent praised and they care called hoes. It would be one thing if she wanted to own being called a freak/hoe. Even Mars owned that he was a freak.

Even then she was going on dates with one of her “hoes”.

Cupcaking in bed with one of her “hoes”.

Inviting her “hoes” over for thanksgiving.

This is simp behavior. If someone is straight sex then you arent inviting them out to hang on dates.

And if she was a pimp all her “hoes would know anout each other amd be around each other and not being insecure about each other because she has them under control.

Nola is simply a Hoe who had a line up of simps who she let smash.

That's not true, Dolomite and Goldie are heroes. Being honest we praise pimps who have a lot of hoes, have you never watched any blackplotation flicks?

I won't disagree that the guys are simps, especially Jamie who is married but she does have them under her control. She

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invited them to the thanksgiving and they didn't fight and they didn't leave the situation so what you call that?

She has them simping and even has Jamie giving her thousands of dollars which is what a hoe does. You got to imagine the situation if she was a man, I'm sure dudes that are pimps have hoes that are insecure and want to compete with each other but he still has them under control and that's what she did with the three male characters.

I'm also sure pimps date hoes, pimps invite hoes over for thanksgiving and pimps that aren't smart also pillow talk with their hoes especially their bottom bytch lmao. It's not straight sex but it is like she is pimping them because even pay attention to how she is a control freak about the situation and was mad because

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Opal had blew up her spot exposing her as the artist behind the anti-rape street art when that publicity could have helped her

. We wouldn't say she is a pimp because she is a female but she is using them like a pimp does his hoes and getting what she wants. She's a thot but that's what makes her situation a double standard.

I wouldn't say encourage but more so presenting a lifestyle in a unapologetic way. As I stated before there was some downside risks for her other decisions/behavior I would have want to have seen presented, but the fact that there was no tangible downside risk for sleeping around doesn't really bother me.

I think they should show the downside of her sleeping around because to be honest that would make things more realistic. A women sleeping around will catch feelings and try to trap one of them which is what thots do. Their needs to be some kind of consequences to her actions and some kind of accountability. I also do feel it encourages it because of the fact their is no consequences and their using the guise of feminism and freedom to support her actions and mentality.

 

[Apollo Creed]

That's not true, Dolomite and Goldie are heroes. Being honest we praise pimps who have a lot of hoes, have you never watched any blackplotation flicks?

I won't disagree that the guys are simps, especially Jamie who is married but she does have them under her control. She

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invited them to the thanksgiving and they didn't fight and they didn't leave the situation so what you call that?

She has them simping and even has Jamie giving her thousands of dollars which is what a hoe does. You got to imagine the situation if she was a man, I'm sure dudes that are pimps have hoes that are insecure and want to compete with each other but he still has them under control and that's what she did with the three male characters.

I'm also sure pimps date hoes, pimps invite hoes over for thanksgiving and pimps that aren't smart also pillow talk with their hoes especially their bottom bytch lmao. It's not straight sex but it is like she is pimping them because even pay attention to how she is a control freak about the situation and was mad because

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Opal had blew up her spot exposing her as the artist behind the anti-rape street art when that publicity could have helped her

. We wouldn't say she is a pimp because she is a female but she is using them like a pimp does his hoes and getting what she wants. She's a thot but that's what makes her situation a double standard.


I think they should show the downside of her sleeping around because to be honest that would make things more realistic. A women sleeping around will catch feelings and try to trap one of them which is what thots do. Their needs to be some kind of consequences to her actions and some kind of accountability. I also do feel it encourages it because of the fact their is no consequences and their using the guise of feminism and freedom to support her actions and mentality.

In what world is Dolomite a hero? He is a comedic character from a fictional movie breh.

At this point Im not here to change peoples views so it is what it is.

 

[Guvnor]

I need to find it. Not on Netflix, not on Hulu, HBO or Showtime.

I've been meaning to watch it, but had no luck finding it. I'll try kodi tonight.

Oh it should be there on kodi,

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putlocker

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[Michael's Black Son]

Spike has the themes he just needs to work with younger talent to make the execution more realistic. This is why this show is a mess and chiraq was a mess. This is why shows like Insecure actually work.

Spikes latest work look good due to technology but they are all missing what made his early work good. Right now Spike appears to be disconnected with the ground level of things.

At first i thought i was just being a man that simply didnt understand some of the stuff in thos show but even my girl felt it was trash.

It feels like Spike got a chance to re-do this project with the money and technology he simply didn’t have access to in the 80s because he just didn’t have a big budget. So he “benefits” from the technology perspective but also gets to fluff the theme of the movie with current battles like gentrification, in your face “feminism” and a well founded trove of music to flavor the shows with.

And I’m not even saying Insecure works either, because that show rides HEAVILY on great cinematography and direction with great music. But the content in insecure and She’s Gotta Have it just feel like the upper tier of the same old relationships / single life stuff we’ve seen since forever. Where are the original scripts / themes?

 

[Apollo Creed]

It feels like Spike got a chance to re-do this project with the money and technology he simply didn’t have access to in the 80s because he just didn’t have a big budget. So he “benefits” from the technology perspective but also gets to fluff the theme of the movie with current battles like gentrification, in your face “feminism” and a well founded trove of music to flavor the shows with.

And I’m not even saying Insecure works either, because that show rides HEAVILY on great cinematography and direction with great music. But the content in insecure and She’s Gotta Have it just feel like the upper tier of the same old relationships / single life stuff we’ve seen since forever. Where are the original scripts / themes?

Me and my girl were talking about how the writing SUCKS for black targeted film nowadays. They get these shea butter black folks with 200k english degrees but are disconnected from reality.

Black shoes of the past were written so much better. The shows now are written like a group of white folks or a shea butter blavity black person wrote it based on looking at twitter for a week.

 

[Guvnor]

In what world is Dolomite a hero? He is a comedic character from a fictional movie breh.

At this point Im not here to change peoples views so it is what it is.

Not a hero in the literal sense but pushing dolomite to the side, many people look up to and like the character Goldie from the mack. Lots of guys like the rappers who portray to be pimps like 8 ball and mjg. Also what world? Me and you must live in different worlds for sure because I know many people who see it as a plus to have a lot of women and my brothers from the south especially see it as a plus to have many women. It's not seen as a negative to have many women, but a women who has many men is a hoe and that's the double standard. If she was a man what she did would be seen close to being a pimp or player.I think this double standard is what Spike is trying to challenge the more I think about it.

There is also a praising of the badman character shown in many films but especially in the blaxploitation era, you know the character who is like an outlaw and a thug who kicks the white man's ass and throws respectability politics in the toilet. A lot of them had many women and we liked that and thought it was cool, we being black culture.

 

[Apollo Creed]

Not a hero in the literal sense but pushing dolomite to the side, many people look up to and like the character Goldie from the mack. Lots of guys like the rappers who portray to be pimps like 8 ball and mjg. Also what world? Me and you must live in different worlds for sure because I know many people who see it as a plus to have a lot of women and my brothers from the south especially see it as a plus to have many women. It's not seen as a negative to have many women, but a women who has many men is a hoe and that's the double standard. If she was a man what she did would be seen close to being a pimp or player.I think this double standard is what Spike is trying to challenge the more I think about it.

There is also a praising of the badman character shown in many films but especially in the blaxploitation era, you know the character who is like an outlaw and a thug who kicks the white man's ass and throws respectability politics in the toilet. A lot of them had many women and we liked that and thought it was cool, we being black culture.

Nola isnt a Pimp so where are you going with this? Lol she is a hoe getting ran through by simps.

 

[Guvnor]

I like this show overall. Even though it's not perfect by any stretch of the imagination, there's a lot of potential there. The script and characters have their flaws. But what show doesn't? People shouldn't look for shows that cure black peoples ills. This is a series. You need to give the characters room to grow.

True that, some stories are just that and it's not about curing our ills as a people or speaking out about issues which the show does do in this case with topics like gentrification, but again I don't see the take away and am trying to figure it out. Maybe we will get it if he decides to make a season 2.

 

[Guvnor]

Nola isnt a Pimp so where are you going with this? Lol she is a hoe getting ran through by simps.

Smh, you don't understand man. You're only calling her a hoe cause she is a female but again if she was a man you would say she was a playa
and not a playa in the typical sense because she does care about them but is a playa because she is using them, and that is the part that if a man does it then it's okay or more normal, if a women does it is not. This is the double standard Spike is challenging. We call her a hoe cause she is a female but if a man demonstrates this kind of behavior he is a playa and is cool while a women who does this gets dogged in society. Even the simp Jamie giving her all that money, sure she looked at it and tried to gloss it up saying what he did was noble and restored her faith in humanity that someone can give from their heart but the truth is she playing that nikka and using him to her benefit knowing he has a wife and kid. She is a female playa because she is using these simps to make it plain and simple. She holds the control in this polyandry relationship which is different then a hoe who doesn't have any power and the men just use her and get rid of her for free or for a price if she has a pimp. She tries to balance her ways of using them and her catching genuine feelings by setting rules and wielding ultimate control over each relationship but she still seems to genuinely like them and may have feelings for all of them which scares her and is why she left Greer in that restaurant.

 

[Apollo Creed]

Smh, you don't understand man. You're only calling her a hoe cause she is a female but again if she was a man you would say she was a playa
and not a playa in the typical sense because she does care about them but is a playa because she is using them, and that is the part that if a man does it then it's okay or more normal, if a women does it is not. This is the double standard Spike is challenging. We call her a hoe cause she is a female but if a man demonstrates this kind of behavior he is a playa and is cool while a women who does this gets dogged in society. Even the simp Jamie giving her all that money, sure she looked at it and tried to gloss it up saying what he did was noble and restored her faith in humanity that someone can give from their heart but the truth is she playing that nikka and using him to her benefit knowing he has a wife and kid. She is a female playa because she is using these simps to make it plain and simple. She holds the control in this polyandry relationship which is different then a hoe who doesn't have any power and the men just use her and get rid of her for free or for a price if she has a pimp. She tries to balance her ways of using them and her catching genuine feelings by setting rules and wielding ultimate control over each relationship but she still seems to genuinely like them and may have feelings for all of them which scares her and is why she left Greer in that restaurant.

If she was a man she would still be a hoe. I have literally said men own being a how/freak what are you talling about?

No man who does what Nola does would get props. Thats literally Dirty macking and simp behavior.

 

[Action Mike]

Smh, you don't understand man. You're only calling her a hoe cause she is a female but again if she was a man you would say she was a playa
and not a playa in the typical sense because she does care about them but is a playa because she is using them, and that is the part that if a man does it then it's okay or more normal, if a women does it is not. This is the double standard Spike is challenging. We call her a hoe cause she is a female but if a man demonstrates this kind of behavior he is a playa and is cool while a women who does this gets dogged in society. Even the simp Jamie giving her all that money, sure she looked at it and tried to gloss it up saying what he did was noble and restored her faith in humanity that someone can give from their heart but the truth is she playing that nikka and using him to her benefit knowing he has a wife and kid. She is a female playa because she is using these simps to make it plain and simple. She holds the control in this polyandry relationship which is different then a hoe who doesn't have any power and the men just use her and get rid of her for free or for a price if she has a pimp. She tries to balance her ways of using them and her catching genuine feelings by setting rules and wielding ultimate control over each relationship but she still seems to genuinely like them and may have feelings for all of them which scares her and is why she left Greer in that restaurant.

Aint no 'female playa'

This is a choosy broken hoe who wants her cake and the whole worlds.

Shows cool though for research purposes.

 

[Guvnor]

If she was a man she would still be a hoe. I have literally said men own being a how/freak what are you talling about?

No man who does what Nola does would get props. Thats literally Dirty macking and simp behavior.

I think a big part of where we disagree is the way we look at a hoe, back in the days being a hoe was shameful. It would be those girls from the neighborhood who nikkas would smut out and run trains on and it wasn't a good thing. Now a days with social media you got hoes that are popping, they have simps all in their dm's and go on IG and snapchat showing off their plates at five star restaurants and their bodies acting as if they are models but the truth is they are doing something strange for some change. The difference between nola and the hoes of today is she is as another breh in here phrased it, unapologetic. This is like how a playa or pimp are more likely to be and she is not pretending to be some kind of IG model either. She is using the guise of feminism and not conforming to social norms instead of going the IG model route. It's written in a way more in your face and we call her a hoe because she is a female but if a guy was to use women the way she does men he would be a playa and I think that's what Spike is showcasing. Nola is not letting society define her or police her bedroom on some feminist shyt and Spike is using that to show us how wrong that kind of thinking is period whether a women does it or a man does it but its easier to see it's wrong when a women is doing that kind of behavior.

It's not dirty macking because dirty macking is defined by a man telling another man's women that the her man is cheating or some sort of snitching in order to get the p*ssy. Though I agree the men are simps for sure. Maybe you don't champion this but tons of people think it's cool for a man to use women or have multiple women and it is more accepted.

Aint no 'female playa'

This is a choosy broken hoe who wants her cake and the whole worlds.

Shows cool though for research purposes.

That's a way of looking at it but if it was a man womenizing women would you say the same thing?

 

[Ziggiy]

I love black women and ADORE Insecure, but I'm not tryna watch some corny forced feminist agenda driven trash brehs.

Is it worth the watch? Keep it a buck.

It’s FAR from trash

 

[gluvnast]

Me and my girl were talking about how the writing SUCKS for black targeted film nowadays. They get these shea butter black folks with 200k english degrees but are disconnected from reality.

Black shoes of the past were written so much better. The shows now are written like a group of white folks or a shea butter blavity black person wrote it based on looking at twitter for a week.

To be fair in regards of Spike Lee, I dunno not one black filmmaker past and present that gave a full diverse spectrum of the black experience in its totality.

Also, I cannot fault him to return to the film that started it all and expound more on that. On face value you may view it as your typical black relationship/"stay woke" type of film but it dives deeper than any other average black show or film. There's tons of art and history of artists, musicians and expression of the beauty of art in all of it forms in this. It questions self-identity and titles and the hypocrisy in those titles, even the feminist/shea-butter group came off a bit hypocritical. It even touch upon the horror (comedy) in the experience to ass-injections because of insecurity of ones body. Even the who sexual assault situation gotten exaggerated to the point Nola already moved on while others continued to push it. There's not a simple black or white scenario in this show to where all peoples flaws are exposed no matter how much they try to mask them.

 

[OfTheCross]

Eh.. i want feeling the last two episodes..

This show is a C+ B-