Spike Lee - She's Got To Have It (Netflix Series)

[Gee Mello]

I just finished the season. I didn't care much about the last episode, I kinda feel like Spike Lee jumped the shark a lil' bit on that. That said, I like how he further explored all the characters in more depth than from the original film. Nola, is indeed someone who has identity issues, and the artist critic, more than anybody, pretty much exposed that when he criticized her artwork. She does not know who she is, but pretends that she does and is way too selfish to acknowledge that the problem is HER. Even in the end when she thought she had it together and claim so-called openess, she is still shallow and not true to who SHE is, but what she think she is. It's almost hypocritical for her to assume that her "men" views her a certain way when it's really the opposite. She view them a certain way, a certain caricature, when they are more complex than what they appear to be from the 1st episode. Especially with Jaime when you really un-peel layers to who this person is and his background. I think Nola is at her weakest with Opal and is the X-factor, but uses her no different than she abuses the men. Which leads to the men as well as Opal and the ONE THING I take issue with this. They know what Nola is about, but it's almost as if they're addicted to her no matter how shallow and foul she tends to be. Even Nola's best friend/former roommate knows this yet some how be on her side. It is heavily implied that Nola saw what her former roommate had with Mars and stole him because of that. And it bewilders me how her friend and Mars can be okay of what Nola done to them. All of them were done dirty by Nola or been used or manipulated and Nola somehow cast a spell for all of them to be obsessed over her....Opal included.

Good statement...the Opal mention comes to fruition at the very end of the last episode. The difference between OG Nola and 2017 Nola is explained in that brief final scene.

 

[re'up]

I was just in Fort Greene this weekend, I still have to finish the show, but yeah, it's such a fascinating, eerie, sad, dope feeling to walk around the neighborhood, and see places that were drug blocks become cafes and "JASMINE AND OPAQUE" styled bars for people who live in the area, and places like DUMBO. Clinton Hill is serene and peaceful, and yet it's all converted projects, where my friend copped a place for like 325 a year ago.

 

[Guvnor]

Yea this is basically relevant to Blacks growing up in NYC and/or living in Brooklyn right now, which is pretty much equivalent to an alternate dimension

but it's authentic to Brooklyn, trust me. Spike knows what he's doing specifically with the gentrification stuff. But for other black people who live around 99% blacks in cites like detroit, gentrification isn't as much of an hot topic and nobodys screaming Black Lives Matter or having town halls in their community. Most black people around the USA would see those in Brooklyn as kinda of weird and can't relate the characters in the show..... other than maybe Mars for guys (who isn't really Black American) and the girl who works at the Club that got the ass shots for females.

The characters in this series are really diverse though and interesting especially Overstreet and his son (was he really playing the guitar in that scene ).

Nola is the most relatable I assume, especially for those who are struggling artists or Black women.

And like I said before the school scenes with the kids and Raqueletta Moss character take issues within the black community.

But really this series caters to NYC and Brooklyn like most spike lees projects.

I am from Brooklyn, might explain why I could relate to some of the themes and the other homie couldn't

You kinda answered your own question. Half of the eps are for the show is for the "femenist" demographic

It got to be more then just feminist propaganda though or maybe I'm in denial and am over thinking it. Why would Spike do a film about feminist polyandry propaganda with no deeper point.

You think he just made this to get him some p*ssy?

 

[Guvnor]

I just finished the season. I didn't care much about the last episode, I kinda feel like Spike Lee jumped the shark a lil' bit on that. That said, I like how he further explored all the characters in more depth than from the original film. Nola, is indeed someone who has identity issues, and the artist critic, more than anybody, pretty much exposed that when he criticized her artwork. She does not know who she is, but pretends that she does and is way too selfish to acknowledge that the problem is HER. Even in the end when she thought she had it together and claim so-called openess, she is still shallow and not true to who SHE is, but what she think she is. It's almost hypocritical for her to assume that her "men" views her a certain way when it's really the opposite. She view them a certain way, a certain caricature, when they are more complex than what they appear to be from the 1st episode. Especially with Jaime when you really un-peel layers to who this person is and his background. I think Nola is at her weakest with Opal and is the X-factor, but uses her no different than she abuses the men. Which leads to the men as well as Opal and the ONE THING I take issue with this. They know what Nola is about, but it's almost as if they're addicted to her no matter how shallow and foul she tends to be. Even Nola's best friend/former roommate knows this yet some how be on her side. It is heavily implied that Nola saw what her former roommate had with Mars and stole him because of that. And it bewilders me how her friend and Mars can be okay of what Nola done to them. All of them were done dirty by Nola or been used or manipulated and Nola somehow cast a spell for all of them to be obsessed over her....Opal included.

That's why it's not realistic to me, how could they just all go along with it like that. Unless Nola has that good good like that but even then. There is no consequences for her actions and they all just bail her out and let her use them at the slightest sign of trouble. She is selfish and they all just role with it.

 

[HARLEM AL]

Nola isnt a Pimp so where are you going with this? Lol she is a hoe getting ran through by simps.

Yeah I’m confused on that angle.

 

[Guvnor]

Yeah I’m confused on that angle.

I wasn't saying literally she was a pimp but I was saying maybe Spike created this to have us question the double standard, for example if Nola was a male character and was using women we would accept it more and might like the character more. However due to her being a women and using men in this manner we don't like her character calling her a hoe and things like that.

I don't know, maybe again I'm just over thinking things.

 

[Big Boss]

 

[HARLEM AL]

I wasn't saying literally she was a pimp but I was saying maybe Spike created this to have us question the double standard, for example if Nola was a male character and was using women we would accept it more and might like the character more. However due to her being a women and using men in this manner we don't like her character calling her a hoe and things like that.

I don't know, maybe again I'm just over thinking things.

If it was a guy doing that he would be a hoe. Hoes are hoes. Male or female.

The funny thing is I always hear it’s a double standard but reality is women are attracted to guys who have a lot of women. And also it’s women are the ones doing all the damn judging(some guys to. nikkas have egos. They can’t deal with the thought of their sister, mom or cousin fukking dudes but they love fukking hoes. Dudes really need to study women’s behavior. It will save their life. I promise you). Guys don’t give a fukk unless it’s a chick they want to marry.

I really think people need to look up the Maddona Whore complex(Props to Roger Alan Currie for putting me on to this).

 

[Rawtid]

Just finished watching this series and I thought it was good! The Thanksgiving scene was a little crazy and meh, but if you saw the original movie, it wasn't that out of place. I liked the Dominican dude that played Mars, gave some diversity to her partners without him being white. The main character is GORGEOUS and I loved her style.

 

[pickles]

I am in love with ol'girl. All those close ups of her face.

Reminds me of this Trini girl I used to know.

The last episode was though.


Let me read this thread though, I know some coli brehs heated as fukk.

 

[re'up]

I know that's the point of low self esteem and women's body image, but that girl who gets the injections has, from my perspective, a really nice body, made the scene all the more uncomfortable.

 

[mson]

Just finished watching this series and I thought it was good! The Thanksgiving scene was a little crazy and meh, but if you saw the original movie, it wasn't that out of place. I liked the Dominican dude that played Mars, gave some diversity to her partners without him being white. The main character is GORGEOUS and I loved her style.

He was Rican.

 

[pickles]

LOLOLOL I knew that guy that plays Mars would get some heat here.

That is how PQ brehs in NY are though. They extra as fukk.

Nothing wrong with him praying to MJ. MJ is gawd after all. :mjdrinking:

Nikkas here really complaining about women giving up vagina?

Nothing wrong with protected consensual sexual intercourse. Nothing. Wrong. With. It.
Too much tv got y'all nikkas twisted.

Y'all want black women to wear burkas or some shyt?

 

[Ribbs]

Was I the only one who thought Jamie's wife was white at first

Not at first but I'm on episode 5 and I had to take a double look. She's very lightskin and blonde so I can't blame you there.

Oh and he made her cry giving head? C'mon now.

 

[FreshAIG]

My sister is an extra in one of the episodes, only reason Ima watch.