Spike Lee Goes in: "Django is disrespectful to my ancestors".....

[Rapmastermind]

If Spike had said the shyt half of us are saying about Django, I'd get why so many Blacks would feel the need to shyt on him. But Spike has barely said anything at all. shyt is sad.

That's what crazy. Spike exact words were:

"I'm not going to see the film, all I will say is that it would be disrespectful to my ancestors, that's just me, I can't speak for anyone else but that's why I'm not seeing it"


Spike feels Slavery should be serious all the time when it comes to making a motion picture. Nowhere in that statement did he talk about the QT, The Actors or production. He just feels making Slavery a western shoot em up is disrespectful cause Slavery was Hell in America. Yet look at the people getting all emotional about Spike comments.

 

[theworldismine13]

Jamie Foxx Goes In on Spike calls him "Irresponsible" and "Shady":

Jamie Foxx Calls Spike Lee 'Shady,' 'Irresponsible' For 'Django Unchained' Criticism


Luke, D!ck Gregory and now Jamie. That's right keep highlighting the Black Folks that disagree with Spike. Notice all 3 with the name calling. Why so emotional? Cause Spike didn't go along with the Slave Revenge Fantasy. SMH. So Jamie, Spike is irresponsible for saying "Slavery" wasn't a shoot em up Slavery Comedy Revenge Flick that it was a Holocaust. OK. LOL @ Jamie proclaiming Spike career is over, SMH. Jamie shouldn't be talking about anyone's career.

its an overreaction to an overreaction

 

[daze23]

So Jamie, Spike is irresponsible for saying "Slavery" wasn't a shoot em up Slavery Comedy Revenge Flick that it was a Holocaust. OK. LOL @ Jamie proclaiming Spike career is over, SMH. Jamie shouldn't be talking about anyone's career.

you guys love taking things out of context and debating strawmen

"The question for me is: where's Spike Lee coming from?" he said. "He didn't like Whoopi Goldberg, he doesn't like Tyler Perry, he doesn't like anybody, I think he's sort of run his course. I mean, I respect Spike, he's a fantastic director. But he gets a little shady when he's taking shots at his colleagues without looking at the work. To me, that's irresponsible."

he says it's "irresponsible" to take shots at his colleagues without looking at their work. and that Spike being critical of everyone else has 'run it's course', not Spike's career

 

[Sensitive Blake Griffin]

Spike's career Oldboy remake fired from the James Brown biopic

 

[B-Rock Odrama]

That's bs. Only one house negro was highlighted in the film, which was Samuel Jackson's character. Django allowed treated slaves like shyt for most of the movie, his sole purpose being to get his wife, not to help the oppressed.

Stop it.....

And no....Mandingo fighting to the death was a myth because black slaves In The south were to be maintained and prized, not viewed as expendable as slaves in South America and the Carribean.

I would advise you to follow your beliefs and read up a bit more like you promised to.

All the slaves whom worked in Candylands big house (from Candie's bed wenches,the maids,,etc) were house negros...So were Big Daddy's slave mistresses and the slave goons whom accompanied him and his white thugs while confonting Django and Dr. King shortly after Django killed the Brittle brothers....Stephen was the ultimate Tom but far from the only house negro in the movie.

Ofcourse Django's priority number one was rescuing wifey but I wouldn't say he didn't care about other slaves cause he didn't speak out against their mistreatment more often in the film....Other than the part where he let the runaway Mandingo get ripped apart by the dogs his coldness toward other slaves was understandalbe considering as I alluded to earlier he was pretending to be a black slave catcher/trader...Showing compassion for or being too nice to slaves would have exposed him as a fake and potentially sabatoged Dr. King's plan to rescue Broomhida which I find dumb consideirng they it would've been alot simpler to atleast ask buy her in the 1st place but that's another argument....If Django didn't care about the plight of other slaves he wouldn't have been so offended at King's to idea to pretending to be black slave catcher/trader or have rescued that slave girl from being beat at Big Daddy's planatation.


No offense but you sound simple....Down in Dixie slaves were known to castrated,viciously whipped , and worked to death by their masters...Do that sound like the treatment you would show somone you prized or maintained?Everyone knows that slavery was a cashcow for Amerikkka but considering at that time there was no shortage of slaves and the average slave owner was wealthy and could thus afford to head down to the slave market if not breed his own slaves yes black slaves in this country were viewed as easily replaceable..To suggest that the sadistic animal crackers whom enslaved black Americans forefathers/mothers were more humane to them than the Spaniards/French treated counterparts in the Carribean/Latin America is an insult to our ancestors and the sruggle they went through...Mandingo fighting to the death is par for the course of the many horrors faced by Afro Americans during their time in bondage so i'm inclined to believe it was a reality during that period..If it didn't really occur it's not like cacs wouldmake this stuff up to look more wicked than they already do cause of slavery

 

[Box Cutta]

If Spike had said the shyt half of us are saying about Django, I'd get why so many Blacks would feel the need to shyt on him. But Spike has barely said anything at all. shyt is sad.

Shadow and Act wrote an article about this (BEFORE Jamie went in) :

What To Make Of The Recent Ad Hominem Attacks Against Spike Lee... | Shadow and Act

I don't understand what the fukk is going on. For the most part, I've always known that most blacks in entertainent were massive c00ns that don't give a shyt about putting out content that is socially responsible...but this shyt is on another level. Is Tarantino SO powerful that dudes feel the need to throw their coats on a puddle of mud like that? Does Spike really just rub his own folks the wrong way? I don't understand how these dudes can pile on like this.

If Denzel or Will diss Spike, I might just fukking give up.

 

[NYC Rebel]

All the slaves whom worked in Candylands big house (from Candie's bed wenches,the maids,,etc) were house negros...So were Big Daddy's slave mistresses and the slave goons whom accompanied him and his white thugs while confonting Django and Dr. King shortly after Django killed the Brittle brothers....Stephen was the ultimate Tom but far from the only house negro in the movie.

Ofcourse Django's priority number one was rescuing wifey but I wouldn't say he didn't care about other slaves cause he didn't speak out against their mistreatment more often in the film....Other than the part where he let the runaway Mandingo get ripped apart by the dogs his coldness toward other slaves was understandalbe considering as I alluded to earlier he was pretending to be a black slave catcher/trader...Showing compassion for or being too nice to slaves would have exposed him as a fake and potentially sabatoged Dr. King's plan to rescue Broomhida which I find dumb consideirng they it would've been alot simpler to atleast ask buy her in the 1st place but that's another argument....If Django didn't care about the plight of other slaves he wouldn't have been so offended at King's to idea to pretending to be black slave catcher/trader or have rescued that slave girl from being beat at Big Daddy's planatation.


No offense but you sound simple....Down in Dixie slaves were known to castrated,viciously whipped , and worked to death by their masters...Do that sound like the treatment you would show somone you prized or maintained?Everyone knows that slavery was a cashcow for Amerikkka but considering at that time there was no shortage of slaves and the average slave owner was wealthy and could thus afford to head down to the slave market if not breed his own slaves yes black slaves in this country were viewed as easily replaceable..To suggest that the sadistic animal crackers whom enslaved black Americans forefathers/mothers were more humane to them than the Spaniards/French treated counterparts in the Carribean/Latin America is an insult to our ancestors and the sruggle they went through...Mandingo fighting to the death is par for the course of the many horrors faced by Afro Americans during their time in bondage so i'm inclined to believe it was a reality during that period..If it didn't really occur it's not like cacs wouldmake this stuff up to look more wicked than they already do cause of slavery

I do take offense because I'm far from simple. And yes...slaves were less expendable in the US compared to the West Indies and South America.

Slaves were handed off and grandfathered from parent to child in the South. especially after the Haitian revolution, there was an outright ban In the US of importing slaves from Africa because they were viewed as rebellious, so the premium was to find reared slaves from generation to generation in the US.

did that mean the end of slavery?

no.


my point is, slaves werent as expendable in the US. That type of dynamic didnt take place in South America and the Carribbean where slaves lived on average of about five years, working to death on sugar cane fields and quickly replaced, There's a reason why theres Almost ten times the amount of africans imported were sent to South America than in the US. THEY WERE SIMPLY REPLACED.

Does that mean I'm saying slaves WEREN'T castrated, murdered and treated harshly in the south......NO!! Who is stupid enough to even say that besides your dumb ass strawmanning?


And here your dumb ass want to call me simple when you don't even know how shyt went down in your own country.

Shut the fukk up and read a book. That Mandingo fighting was bullshyt.

 

[Savior]

its an overreaction to an overreaction

Yea they going too hard at Spike...but it was stupid of him in the first place to shyt on a movie without even seeing it. His word wouldve had a lot more power if he saw the movie and broke it down. Instead it was "i ain't gonna see it but this, this and this". Obviously he ain't gonna be taken serious and set himself up for a lot of backlash.

 

[theworldismine13]

this was posted already but it goes into a how common mandigo fighting was

How Accurate Is Django Unchained? On Riding Horses, Mandingo Fighting and Dogs Eating Slaves

 

[Fillerguy]

Yea they going too hard at Spike...but it was stupid of him in the first place to shyt on a movie without even seeing it. His word wouldve had a lot more power if he saw the movie and broke it down. Instead it was "i ain't gonna see it but this, this and this". Obviously he ain't gonna be taken serious and set himself up for a lot of backlash.

he a fool for not wanting to see it?

 

[MeachTheMonster]

he a fool for not wanting to see it?

As a consumer no. But as a freind and colleague of the people in the movie, the respectful thing to do would have been to go see the movie before criticizing it.

 

[El Bombi]

Fukk dikk Gregory

Paul Mooney kept it real.

 

[Savior]

he a fool for not wanting to see it?

I never said that...he doesnt have to see it I could care less. I said it was stupid of him to shyt on it without seeing it because it set him up for the backash he's getting

 

[Rapmastermind]

Skyzoo and Talib to release video Spike Lee Tribute Track "SPIKE LEE WAS MY HERO":

Skyzoo: Behind The Scenes of the "Spike Lee Was My Hero" Video Shoot - YouTube


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[B-Rock Odrama]

I do take offense because I'm far from simple. And yes...slaves were less expendable in the US compared to the West Indies and South America.

Slaves were handed off and grandfathered from parent to child in the South. especially after the Haitian revolution, there was an outright ban In the US of importing slaves from Africa because they were viewed as rebellious, so the premium was to find reared slaves from generation to generation in the US.

did that mean the end of slavery?

no.


my point is, slaves werent as expendable in the US. That type of dynamic didnt take place in South America and the Carribbean where slaves lived on average of about five years, working to death on sugar cane fields and quickly replaced, There's a reason why theres Almost ten times the amount of africans imported were sent to South America than in the US. THEY WERE SIMPLY REPLACED.

Does that mean I'm saying slaves WEREN'T castrated, murdered and treated harshly in the south......NO!! Who is stupid enough to even say that besides your dumb ass strawmanning?


And here your dumb ass want to call me simple when you don't even know how shyt went down in your own country.

Shut the fukk up and read a book. That Mandingo fighting was bullshyt.

Well I still think you sound simple and didn't care if you took offense or not when I said it he 1st time I said it....

Even if I was to play devils advocate and believe the your revionist fairytale account of Amerikkan slavery it still doesn't mean AA slaves were so valued by slave owners in Dixie that they would never stage Mandingo fights stupid...You simple ass acting like all slaves would participate in Mandingo fighting when more than likely it was only the biggest,most, atheleticaly fit male slaves whom were bred/trained just for those events...A few slaves lost annually to Mandingo fighting wouldn't significantly effect the slave population.


It's irrelevant to this argument but if you don't think slave owners in the Carribean/Latin America passed down slaves from generation to generation like their counterparts in Dixie it's cause you are gullable=simple...By the time the Amerikkan government had tried to ban importing slaves millions had already been brought or been bred here over the course of hundreds of years...There was no shortage of black slaves in those days...As a matter of fact arguably during that era there were more blacks than whites in the South which is the real reason the Union /white abolotionist wanted ban the practice in the first place....The Haitin revolution happenemed only 60 yrs or so before slavery was abolished in the US...Hundreds of years before that and most likely years after even there was no restrictions on importing slaves and there was never restrictions on breeding them locally

You have no point and only trying to romanticize Amerikkan slavery & downplay the barbary of white slave owners cause the ugly truth contrast with the fairytale vision of of it you want to believe in..Yeah and that reason is the US is only one country which was a destination of slaves from Africa where as South America/Central and the Carribean which also imported slaves from the Motherland are more than a dozen different nations..Ofcourse they would have imported significantly more slaves than the US by itself .but in a country to country comparison i'm sure America imported just as many if not more slaves than any other country in the New World.

How can your simple ass admit that AA slaves were outright murdered by their owners during that period but at the same time argue Mandingo fighting was a myth cause slave holdeers held their black slaves in such high regard they would never allow it ?


You mean one of those same whitewashed/watered down accounts of slavery written by whitey? Okay if it helps you sleep better at night Thomas.