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This thread is about Django and if Spike's comments were correct that it exploits slavery. Dudes are bringing in Rap Music which has nothing to do with the history of racism in Hollywood. This thread again is about Hollywood, Racism and how we are portrayed on film. Bringing up "N@@as in Paris" is ducking and dodging what this thread is about. The Django dolls are exploitive period, there's no spinning it. Nobody was debating wither Blacks were exploited in other areas cause that's not what we are talking about. This entire thread deals with Hollywood and Racism.

oh my bad, sorry for derailing the thread :rudy:

but my derailing the thread is not evidence that im wrong or that they are not related, music and movies are related, the reason why its acceptable for rappers are given a pass to say nikka and so is tarantino is that the people in the corporations know that its an aspect of black culture they can exploit because white people love it and get their rocks off from it and they also know that if anybody complains they can hide behind artistic license, thats the connection between 'nikkas in paris' and qt movies

but again my deepest apologies, if you want to avoid the direct correlation of how black people are portrayed in music and the way we are portrayed in hollywood, thats on yall, carry on then, dont let reality stop you
 

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the exploitees are black and the exploiters are white, thats how they are related, and if you are black you should be equally concerned about exploitation of black people, black culture or anything black in music, sports or movies, not just when people make some dolls
No, only some of the exploitees are black as far as student athletes go the same way that some of the exploiters are black. Exploitation regarding studet athletes isnt a race thing, student athletes of all races are exploited. This isn't about not being equally concerned about different forms of exploitation, this is about discussing one topic at a time. This discussion is about Django and how the movie exploits slavery purely for profit. This isn't a discussion about nikkas in Paris and whatever form of exploitation that you think the song represents. You're posting all of this nonsensical BS to try and cloud the issue and serve your personal agenda.

you need to stop it, i dont think anybody can take anything you say seriously after you said exploitation in hip hop is not race related
I couldn't care less if you take me seriously or not. Personally I think that you're an idiot with an agenda.



You said django exploits slavery. So I asked is there something in particular about django that was exploitative, or are all movies dealing with history exploitative.

You said yourself that the movie didn't reinforce any negative stereotypes, so how is it exploitative?

You can't answer these questions because your argument is based on emotions, not logic.
I've already the question genius. I explained how Django exploits slavery in the exact same post that I said that the movie didn't necessarily perpetuate negative black stereotypes. Either you can't read too well or you're only reading what you want to read.
 

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No, only some of the exploitees are black as far as student athletes go the same way that some of the exploiters are black. Exploitation regarding studet athletes isnt a race thing, student athletes of all races are exploited. This isn't about not being equally concerned about different forms of exploitation, this is about discussing one topic at a time. This discussion is about Django and how the movie exploits slavery purely for profit. This isn't a discussion about nikkas in Paris and whatever form of exploitation that you think the song represents. You're posting all of this nonsensical BS to try and cloud the issue and serve your personal agenda.

I couldn't care less if you take me seriously or not. Personally I think that you're an idiot with an agenda.
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yep, and there you have it folks, exploitation in hip hop music and student athletes has nothing to do with race, thanks for the info

and again my deepest apologies for derailing this thread and for trying to connect exploitation of black culture in music with exploitation of black culture in hollywood, i dont know what i was thinking :heh:
 

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all the slavery portrayed within Django left me horrified, I actually looked away a little bit during the dog scene, so I'm not really sure how Tarantino could've handled it any better. It definitely had a much more serious tone than most of Tarantino's films.
 

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I've already the question genius. I explained how Django exploits slavery in the exact same post that I said that the movie didn't necessarily perpetuate negative black stereotypes. Either you can't read too well or you're only reading what you want to read.

You said it exploits slavery by using it as a means to sell a movie.

My response to that is don't all movies based on history use that history as a means to sell the movie? What makes django special? Or all are historical movies exploitative?
 

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CHRISTOPH WALTZ WINS BEST SUPPORTING ACTOR AT GOLDEN GLOBES. Of course none of the Black Performances were nominated at the Golden Globes as well as the Oscars. As I said earlier in the thread, Hollywood loves to award "White Savoir" roles and once again they do.
 

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oh my bad, sorry for derailing the thread :rudy:

but my derailing the thread is not evidence that im wrong or that they are not related, music and movies are related, the reason why its acceptable for rappers are given a pass to say nikka and so is tarantino is that the people in the corporations know that its an aspect of black culture they can exploit because white people love it and get their rocks off from it and they also know that if anybody complains they can hide behind artistic license, thats the connection between 'nikkas in paris' and qt movies

but again my deepest apologies, if you want to avoid the direct correlation of how black people are portrayed in music and the way we are portrayed in hollywood, thats on yall, carry on then, dont let reality stop you
That's nonsense in bold. I can Barely understand what you're trying to say btw, you're speaking that Pooty Tang. Rappers are given a "pass" saying nikka because rappers are black. White rappers don't have that pass. While Tarantino has gotten a pass from some blacks for his use of the word ****** on the strength of artistic freedom, he has caught some flack. He will get away with using it in Django because he set the movie during slavery and made it a black slave revenge flick. Theres no connection between rappers using nikka in rap songs and Tarantino using ****** in his movies. You sound just like Limbaugh.

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yep, and there you have it folks, exploitation in hip hop music and student athletes has nothing to do with race, thanks for the info

and again my deepest apologies for derailing this thread and for trying to connect exploitation of black culture in music with exploitation of black culture in hollywood, i dont know what i was thinking :heh:
Slavery isn't black culture, it's world history and has been part of cultures all over the world. You can't even explain the relevance of exploitation in the music industry to this discussion other than saying "black people get exploited in the music industry". That's just how simple you are. You ran in here trying to make some dumbass comparison between the song NIP and the selling of slave dolls, now you're saying saying whatever to cloud the issue. Bozo the clown.
You said it exploits slavery by using it as a means to sell a movie.

My response to that is don't all movies based on history use that history as a means to sell the movie? What makes django special? Or all are historical movies exploitative?
Stop asking me these dumb questions that you should know the answer to yourself. Are you arguing that Django doesn't exploit slavery, or are you just making the bytch made "yea Django exploits slavery but don't say that because other movies have exploited incidents in history too" argument? Stop tap dancing and say what you have to say. What movies are you trying to compare Django to?
 

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That's nonsense in bold. I can Barely understand what you're trying to say btw, you're speaking that Pooty Tang. Rappers are given a "pass" saying nikka because rappers are black. White rappers don't have that pass. While Tarantino has gotten a pass from some blacks for his use of the word ****** on the strength of artistic freedom, he has caught some flack. He will get away with using it in Django because he set the movie during slavery and made it a black slave revenge flick. Theres no connection between rappers using nikka in rap songs and Tarantino using ****** in his movies. You sound just like Limbaugh.

yeah but you are the same guy that said that exploitation of hip hop music has nothing to do with race, so like i said you are not credible

Slavery isn't black culture, it's world history and has been part of cultures all over the world.

what does this have to do with anything, in the context of the django and america slavery is part of black culture and black history

You can't even explain the relevance of exploitation in the music industry to this discussion other than saying "black people get exploited in the music industry".

yeah and thats all i have to say because the connection is self evident

That's just how simple you are. You ran in here trying to make some dumbass comparison between the song NIP and the selling of slave dolls, now you're saying saying whatever to cloud the issue. Bozo the clown.Stop asking me these dumb questions that you should know the answer to yourself. Are you arguing that Django doesn't exploit slavery, or are you just making the bytch made "yea Django exploits slavery but don't say that because other movies have exploited incidents in history too" argument? Stop tap dancing and say what you have to say. What movies are you trying to compare Django to?

my arguments was that it does exploit slavery and black history/culture but it doesn't exploit it anymore than a typical rap song or any other historically based movie and overall its a good funny movie

people brought up the dolls, and i said i dont like the dolls but it doesn't seem like its anything more than the typical exploitation hollywood does and i added it doesnt seem any more exploitative than a song like nikkas in paris, in that its distasteful and some black people might be offended by it

this is news to me that the exploitation of black culture in rap music had nothing to do with race :heh: to me its self evident that there is a connection between the music industry and hollywood, so its not a big deal to make a connection between music and a movie

but apparently you dont see race in the music industry but you see race in the movie industry, which is strange and explains your non logical arguments

because the reason you gave for a color blind music industry also applies to the movie industry and these dolls

you are the one that needs to answer the question of why its ok to do dolls of kill bill and inglorious b*stards and not do them for django? why do you think django dolls should be treated differently?
 

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CHRISTOPH WALTZ WINS BEST SUPPORTING ACTOR AT GOLDEN GLOBES. Of course none of the Black Performances were nominated at the Golden Globes as well as the Oscars. As I said earlier in the thread, Hollywood loves to award "White Savoir" roles and once again they do.
Christoph deserved a nomination, Jamie didn't. :yeshrug:

Sam Jack deserved one but its just as well that he wasn't nominated for that role, for obvious reasons.
 

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"I cant speak on it 'cause I'm not gonna see it," he tells VIBETV. "All I'm going to say is that it's disrespectful to my ancestors. That's just me...I'm not speaking on behalf of anybody else."

This is all the nikka said..he clearly read the synopsis and gave his opinion.I dont how some can say he analyzed and broke the movie down..

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how did he deserve a nomination tho :mindblown:

did he win one for his character on IG?

What do you mean how? Did you see the movie?

I assume you meant Inglourious Basterds and yes, he won every award for that role.
 
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