Chill bro Hip Hop is a Black America genre end of discussion, if you love your cousin so much you give him his credit where it’s due and don’t try take that credit for yourself.
Spike Lee Co signs Fat Joe "Black People and Puerto Ricans created one of the great art forms ever! Together! In the bronx! Undisputed!"
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Chill bro Hip Hop is a Black America genre end of discussion, if you love your cousin so much you give him his credit where it’s due and don’t try take that credit for yourself.
I have no idea what you going on about
it is super obvious who has left their town
who has been around ricans or dr people
who knows what hip hop with all its elements is
who is trying their maga hardest to push division and maga funded propoganda
you know that right?
hope you do
What’s divisive by sayin Hip Hop is a Black American genre
If I say Reggae is a Black Jamaican genre I bet you have no problem with that, Black American have a history of having shyt they made through their pain hardship creativity and genius be whitewashed b*stardised and tried to be claimed as someone else’s, so naturally it’s only right in this instance the new generation of African Americans learn from the past and make sure to gatekeep the culture and their creations.
There is nothing divisive about this, Hip Hop is a genre that has its roots in other older African American genres to claim it as anything but what it is, is real suspect.
What’s divisive by sayin Hip Hop is a Black American genre
If I say Reggae is a Black Jamaican genre I bet you have no problem with that, Black American have a history of having shyt they made through their pain hardship creativity and genius be whitewashed b*stardised and tried to be claimed as someone else’s, so naturally it’s only right in this instance the new generation of African Americans learn from the past and make sure to gatekeep the culture and their creations.
There is nothing divisive about this, Hip Hop is a genre that has its roots in other older African American genres to claim it as anything but what it is, is real suspect.
who is denying that hip hop is blk american?
who?
one person?
two people?
you and your friends are the ONLY ones who keep on repeating
"they saying they invented"
"they trying to take hip hop from us"
what is happening is that a bunch of guys who follow hashtag division on twitter
are trying to push their nationalism and xenophobia into hiphop
that is some real agent shyt
why?
new yorkers do not care
NEW YORKERS DO NOT CARE
and mostly anywhere where pr and dr live those folks do not care
philly, florida, jersey and many other places
why?
cause those people are neighbors, wives, husbands, lifelong friends, etc
they "strange/alien" to you
PoPimp84
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100. I don’t know what so hard to understand about this, BA’s created hip hop and other groups contributed to its evolution. Contributed does not mean created. Movie directors and producers will have their names on the ending credits the same as the key grips and the boom mic operators but it’s no question who was the most important to getting that movie madeAs you should. Protect your culture.
All I'm saying is that PR were there in the beginning. They didn't create it. But they did help pioneer it. A definition of pioneer:
Definition of PIONEER
a member of a military unit usually of construction engineers; a person or group that originates or helps open up a new line of thought or activity or a new method or technical development; one of the first to settle in a territory… See the full definitionwww.merriam-webster.com
PR did help move the culture forward. But Aframs had far more of a contribution and as I said, they created it. Based on all historical evidence we have.
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But the coli says hip hop was created in the south?
TF are you talking about?
The debate is, whether Hispanics were around, contributing to the creation of Hip-Hop/"the culture" (breakdancing, graffiti, rhyming, etc). The answer would be "YES".
To remix your statement (like you did mine), we could also say, Big Pun (a Rican), was nicer than 95% of the black rappers, who have, ever existed. See how that works.
Now y'all finally played the Big Pun card. Go ahead and name 10 more Puerto Ricans who could spit. I'll wait. You probably can't even give me five.
All this Puerto Rican influence and y'all got one rapper who's worth a damn.
Pun ain't even top 25 but y'all act like he was Biggie
More slick talk.
I guess Puerto Ricans created chicken and waffles since that was first made in Harlem and Spanish Harlem is a quick walk away.
How do you go from proximity to a 50-50 split on ownership? You lived two blocks away, went to a black person's house, and saying you own it because you mowed the lawn a few times.
That "we live in the same neighborhood" talk is not enough. I'm asking you what you created.
If you had such a hand in the music tell us why you can count the Rican MC's on one hand. What flows did you create? What classic albums do you have that influenced the culture?
KRS, Shan, Kane, Rakim, G Rap, Biz, Slick Rick, Kurtis Blow, NWA, Melle Mel, LL Cool J, Ice T, Public Enemy, Run DMC, EPMD, The Fat Boys, De LA Soul, Tribe, Heavy D....
Need I go on? Where are the Puerto Ricans? The Beastie Boys and Rick Rubin were doing more in rap music before you so I guess we gotta split hip hop three ways now and give white folks their cut.
Fat Joe ain't drop an album until 1993 but it's 50-50.
Y'all talk like us, dress like us, say nikka like us, leech off us, so what exactly do we need you for?
Y'all moving like the cacs who stole rock n roll but unlike them y'all don't even have the numbers to say you make up the vast majority of the genre. Y'all allegedly been here since day one but are barely a factor musically. Make it make sense.
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That isn't what Spike and others have stated, though. They keep saying that other groups created it.......which is undeniably false. We've heard Africans, Caribbeans, Jamaicans, Puerto Ricans, etc. created it.
Hip-hop is solely a Black American creation.
Period.
Hip-hop is solely a Black American creation.
Period.
HarlemHottie
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Why thee fukk do you think you have the right to speak for ados ny'ers?
Who tf are you? When your ppl get here? How old were you? Where you grow up?My mother got photo albums that been in this city longer than you. STFU.
Truly one of the worst of '22.
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Spike Lee jumped and wrapped his legs around Sam Jackson at an awards show
PoPimp84
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That logic makes no sense. Black basketball players are nicer than 95% of cacs but none of that changes the fact basketball was created by a cac.TF are you talking about?
The debate is, whether Hispanics were around, contributing to the creation of Hip-Hop/"the culture" (breakdancing, graffiti, rhyming, etc). The answer would be "YES".
To remix your statement (like you did mine), we could also say, Big Pun (a Rican), was nicer than 95% of the black rappers, who have, ever existed. See how that works.
TF are you talking about?
The debate is, whether Hispanics were around, contributing to the creation of Hip-Hop/"the culture" (breakdancing, graffiti, rhyming, etc). The answer would be "YES".
I think that's right- if you contribute early enough. You don't have to be the first person to spit a rhyme or tag on a building.
But blacks are understandably protective of the culture.
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Don't even make sense to post this you know they gonna ignore this to fit some narrative, If you're not from NY how the fukk would anybody know what they're talking about, The South Bronx in the 70's was basically a ghetto-ass San Juan. The cultures of everybody played an impact on it that lived around that time.
Tariq Nasheed really did a number on people I swear, with all that's going on in the world black people still at the bottom collectively and this is what people are harping on.
This one is special though because yall hate NY and hate people not FBA so it doubly stings but once again don't know what tf you talking about.
You have people born in the time, from the area giving word-of-mouth accounts and you have people from Alabama or wherever the fukk speaking on it's origins how tf would you know?
And guess what, when I travel across the world to other countries most people associate rap with FBA anyway, most people don't even know who tf Puerto Ricans are outside of 5 states and 9 countries. Let's focus on more important shyt, please like I said, I'm an advocate for FBA getting operations even though I am not entitled to it, or fixing the black family. But all these divisive "who did what shyt" is counterintuitive and unproductive.
Cosigned. That poster @Jim Brown is a fukkin troll. He was bushed from the site less than 4 weeks after joining. And he’s been soliciting DMs asking for “donations” to his fraudulent crypto scam. You would body that nerd.