South L.A. student finds a different world at Cal (UC Berkeley)
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theworldismine13
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that usc alumni connection is
do you mean professionally or things such as grad school as far as the uc deal?
yeah for grad school, law or med school the UC degree is worth more, but if you are just going for a bachelors and then into the job market i would say its the same difference, usc connections can make up for the bad academic rep usc has
theworldismine13
God Emperor of SOHH
what about ucla law vs usc law in cali?
as far as the total package, wouldn't the usc connection make usc marginally better?
seems like la is usc country whether people like it or not
yeah thats a close one, especially if you are staying in LA, but if you leave LA then ucla law wins
Thought it was the other way around...what about ucla law vs usc law in cali?
as far as the total package, wouldn't the usc connection make usc marginally better?
seems like la is usc country whether people like it or not
If you're black, I'm sure @BarNone would advise you dump both, and hit up an ivy league...
why is that?
is the boost significant for us blacks in ivy leagues?
been thinking about applying to columbia or upenn law
but my low confidence in my abilities and not thinking im good enough gets to my head (even though i am)
theworldismine13
God Emperor of SOHH
There is no difference between those two law schools really. UCLA has marginally better placement. If you plan on working in LA after law school, get into the best law school you can, do well and then interview with LA firms. If you do go to USC or UCLA, don't do it without scholarship money.what about ucla law vs usc law in cali?
as far as the total package, wouldn't the usc connection make usc marginally better?
seems like la is usc country whether people like it or not
If you're going to law school, go where you'll maximize the odds of getting a job. As far "boosts" in ivy leagues, I wouldn't overstate that. If you get into Columbia or Penn, then you probably got into UCLA and USC with scholarship money. The odds of getting into those two without getting into USC and UCLA are incredibly low. Unless, UCLA thinks you won't attend (they yield protect). The "boost" comes from the fact that people of color perform worse on the LSAT on average, o there's an unofficial "boost" there where you can get into a top program with an LSAT score in the 160s whereas others would require something in the 170s. But make no mistake, the 25 percentile GPA at schools like that is like a 3.6 and the 75 percentile is like a 3.9.
should i say fukk it and early decision at columbia if i really want to go there?
is it true they dont give as much fafsa for ed students?
whats the best lsat prep course breh? thinking about signing up for testmasters. I also have the powerscore bibles after hearing good things about them
Testmasters and Powerscore are almost the same thing. They just name some things different. It depends on whether you're better studying by yourself or if you need a classroom. The benefit for you know, marginal as it may be is that law school applicants are going down overall so there are less high-achieving kids to go around. When I applied to law school Harvard and Columbia accepted 10 to 11%, there are like 13 to 16% now. As far as FAFSA goes, you have to fill out a MUCH MORE in-depth form for law school called Need Access (I think) on top of FAFSA. That shyt is annoying and takes like 90 minutes, asking you detailed questions like how much your parents owe on their mortgage, etc. I literally had to hit up my mom and fill that shyt out with her on the phone. She was likeshould i say fukk it and early decision at columbia if i really want to go there?
is it true they dont give as much fafsa for ed students?
whats the best lsat prep course breh? thinking about signing up for testmasters. I also have the powerscore bibles after hearing good things about them
the Amazing Race is coming on. But I digress. The problem with EDing is that you then lose the ability to play schools off of each other. I got my aid package by mentioning that other schools had given me grants, etc. The worst part of law school is that aid package does not cover the cost of living. So you end with loans for the rest of tuition AND for housing. But yeah, if you ED then you have to take what they give you. I know I told my cousin to do that but that's because he's from VA applying to UVA so he'd get state tuition.
ogc163
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Yeah No lie, this story definitely hit home. I had a similar situation coming straight out of high school. Especially being an intrinsic learner, who did fairly well in high school, but the first few years of college, just didn't come off as high school 2.0. I had to take an introductory English course twice.
1. The first time I was in denial about my dyslexia which affected my writing abilities and nearly left me on the verge of crying racism because my professor seemed like an old prick who hated minorities. But ultimately she gave me an incomplete but at the time I couldn't figure out for the life of me why. I was busy working, and had no time or idea how to fix the incomplete, sohh it eventually turned into a D. ()
2. The second time I took this course I was a little more hands on, yet not fully excelling at writing. I ended up with a B then went on to English 101.
I later went on to hit the ground running in English 101 and 103. Acing both courses because I had built a dope work ethic.
The only real course I took enjoyment out learning while struggling in my english courses was an African American studies class which I aced with minimum effort, yet enjoyed every second of it. I still smh, to this day, because most of the black people in my african american studies class were doing signficantly worse than the non-blacks.
My intro science courses weren't as bad, I just had to get used to the labs....
Man my first two years of college was a humbling experience, but thankfully my first English professor was on point imo even though most of the class hated him. I hated high school and barely finished because I hardly went to school, the environment at my C.C. felt like the 13th grade. It wasn't until I transferred out that everything really started to click, my first two years of college I went to the library probably three times. When I transferred I was there everyday, reading on the subway had me finishing books quickly and it definitely helped my writing/narrative skills. A lot of these kids are underprepared to say the very least but I'm going to keep it a hundred and this may piss some people off, many of these Black organizations on these campuses have to step their game up. In my personal experience they are too damn occupied with the pageantry portion of things and are way too laid back when it comes to struggling Black students. My sister went to Cornell and she said the dynamic was the same at her school, the Black org at her school was on some
when they saw she was struggling but didn't hesitate to parade her around when it was time to showcase the Black engineers at school events. I got into it a couple of times with the Deans of the Black male initiative group at my school because they were too obsessed with showing the white administrators that "we" could perform at a high level, meanwhile I had two boys flunk out and one who is now a superduper senior and not once did the two Deans step in and intervene. One of the deans is a HLS graduate and knew I was going to law school, and at no point did dude extend his hand in helping me. I had more support from my White prelaw advisor who constantly on my ass whenever I slipped up.if I file independent do I still need to include my parents info? if so that shyt is unfair i don't even fukk with my dad like that and he doesnt support me yet he makes a good income. ED is a risk i guess, i guess if ima ed ill ed to the highest ranked school i canTestmasters and Powerscore are almost the same thing. They just name some things different. It depends on whether you're better studying by yourself or if you need a classroom. The benefit for you know, marginal as it may be is that law school applicants are going down overall so there are less high-achieving kids to go around. When I applied to law school Harvard and Columbia accepted 10 to 11%, there are like 13 to 16% now. As far as FAFSA goes, you have to fill out a MUCH MORE in-depth form for law school called Need Access (I think) on top of FAFSA. That shyt is annoying and takes like 90 minutes, asking you detailed questions like how much your parents owe on their mortgage, etc. I literally had to hit up my mom and fill that shyt out with her on the phone. She was like
But I digress. The problem with EDing is that you then lose the ability to play schools off of each other. I got my aid package by mentioning that other schools had given me grants, etc. The worst part of law school is that aid package does not cover the cost of living. So you end with loans for the rest of tuition AND for housing. But yeah, if you ED then you have to take what they give you. I know I told my cousin to do that but that's because he's from VA applying to UVA so he'd get state tuition.