Sony's cynical game design. 2016 update, Movie Games Galore!!!

[winb83]

@MeachTheMonster what part of this looks not like a game but like a movie?

Exclusive Hands-On Impressions Of Spider-Man

I'm more baffled by anyone arguing that this game will be part of an Uncharted formula. People are taking Uncharted and making it so undefined and vague that anything with a third person camera, cinematic set pieces, and a story can be considered a clone even if the gameplay is entirely different.

 

[Fatboi1]

nikka y'all did this with every game I mentioned in this thread.

Y'all said Uncharted would be "open" it wasn't.

Y'all said the order wasn't going to be the same, it was.

Every single game, y'all do this same shyt, then the game comes out and you pretend the shyt never happened.

Spider-Man is next

What does this have anything to do with what I asked? This game, Spiderman I posted looks gamey and still has crazy production values.

who said Uncharted would be open world? We said there would be more open levels and not straight forward A to B which it did have especially so in the Uncharted The Lost Legacy spin off game.

Your post makes zero sense.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

Your argument is essentially this. Everything they do that proves my point wrong is disqualified from consideration therefor my point is correct. You don't see the problem with that?

No it's not. You made that up.

My argument back in 2014 and now, as well as the video @Captain_Crunch posted. Is only about Sony's big first party games this gen.

It says it right in the op.

But y'all would rather ignore that so you can reach for some other dumb ass shyt to say

God of War has always had cut scenes with large set pieces suddenly because the move the camera angle it's supposed to be a clone of a third person cover shooter?

Yes

I'd love to see the part of Uncharted where you escort your son with a mythological ax and chop off enemies heads or swing from building to building with your web shooter while getting into rhythm based hand to hand combat fights with several enemies at the same time.

Play dumb brehs

Tomb Raider (2013) and Uncharted are pretty much the same style of game with the same presentation and gameplay mechanics. It was obvious to everyone it was a copy. Spiderman and God of War have very little to do with Uncharted unless you wanna act like a game having a cinematic story and a third person camera makes it a clone.

It's obvious Spider-Man and GOW are chasing after that formula. Only ones pretending that's not the case are you nasty stans.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

What does this have anything to do with what I asked? This game, Spiderman I posted looks gamey and still has crazy production values.

who said Uncharted would be open world? We said there would be more open levels and not straight forward A to B which it did have especially so in the Uncharted The Lost Legacy spin off game.

Your post makes zero sense.

Hey man. Y'all been playing dumb for 4 years now.

Sony still pumping out movie games.

Don't know why y'all act like this. You like the games. From what y'all say uncharted/tlou is the best gaming has to offer. Sony knows y'all like those games so they're making a bunch of games to meet that same forumula.

Y'all should be happy. Sony keeping y'all eating how y'all like

 

[Fatboi1]

Hey man. Y'all been playing dumb for 4 years now.

Sony still pumping out movie games.

Don't know why y'all act like this. You like the games. From what y'all say uncharted/tlou is the best gaming has to offer. Sony knows y'all like those games so they're making a bunch of games to meet that same forumula.

Y'all should be happy. Sony keeping y'all eating how y'all like

You're crazy. Why are you avoiding my question?

What part of the gifs I posted look like a movie game with gameplay being an afterthought and visuals/cinematics being the forefront?

the latest preview from GI literally dedicated a segment explaining how web-swinging works with controls and button layouts.
How Web Swinging Works In Spider-Man

You're digging yourself a hole trying to say this game is just an Uncharted formula following game which in of itself doesn't make sense when UC4 has some of the best TPS shooting mechanics out right now.

 

[winb83]

No it's not. You made that up.

My argument back in 2014 and now, as well as the video @Captain_Crunch posted. Is only about Sony's big first party games this gen.

It says it right in the op.

But y'all would rather ignore that so you can reach for some other dumb ass shyt to say


Yes


Play dumb brehs


It's obvious Spider-Man and GOW are chasing after that formula. Only ones pretending that's not the case are you nasty stans.

What is that formula? Can you specifically define it?

Is that formula third person based with action and cinematic cutscenes with large set pieces because that's not a very specific formula. Uncharted didn't invent any of those things. You trying to act like Sony is Ubisoft is pretty disingenuous.

Also you try to dismiss every game that disproves your argument with false qualifiers like the biggest studios and saying what does and doesn't count.

Nobody is playing dumb here. God of War, Spiderman, and Uncharted have almost nothing to do with each other. The gameplay of all of them is widely different.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

You're crazy. Why are you avoiding my question?

What part of the gifs I posted look like a movie game with gameplay being an afterthought and visuals/cinematics being the forefront?

the latest preview from GI literally dedicated a segment explaining how web-swinging works with controls and button layouts.
How Web Swinging Works In Spider-Man

Even in your quote the guy says

"Despite being open-world, the gameplay shown seemed to be on rails, and I feared most of the game would feel rigid in that way. "

But I say it and y'all claim I'm just making stuff up.

The game has open world web swinging, but the missions they have shown off looks like the same formula as their other games.

You're digging yourself a hole trying to say this game is just an Uncharted formula following game which in of itself doesn't make sense when UC4 has some of the best TPS shooting mechanics out right now.

 

[Fatboi1]

Even in your quote the guy says

"Despite being open-world, the gameplay shown seemed to be on rails, and I feared most of the game would feel rigid in that way. "

Wow, i didn't think you could be this dishonest

The full quote in CONTEXT

I admit some hesitancy going into my gameplay time with Spider-Man after seeing the E3 2017 gameplay footage. Despite being open-world, the gameplay shown seemed to be on rails, and I feared most of the game would feel rigid in that way. Those fears washed away immediately after getting my hands on the game. Both the web-swinging and combat offer impressive levels of player improvisation. I put down the controller feeling like I had truly taken control of the character, and I am eager to hone my web-swinging skills and see what talented players are able to do with him in September.

You literally just posted one line referring to what he thought of the game from the E3 2017 video.

But I say it and y'all claim I'm just making stuff up.

The game has open world web swinging, but the missions they have shown off looks like the same formula as their other games.

the "missions"? The one mission they showed off looked like their other games?

You never played any of "their other games" so for you to sit here and act like you know what you're talking about is laughable. Dude, go play Cuphead, you're sounding silly in here.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

What is that formula? Can you specifically define it?

Traversal, story, combat, set piece, cutscene. Rinse and repeat.

The gameplay is just there to get you through the story

Is that formula third person based with action and cinematic cutscenes with large set pieces because that's not a very specific formula. Uncharted didn't invent any of those things. You trying to act like Sony is Ubisoft is pretty disingenuous.

Sony is Ubisoft.

Same way Ubisoft shoehorns it's formula into a bunch of different genres Sony is doing the same.

Same way you can look at Ass creed and Far cry and see their formula despite the fact that they are very different genres of gaming.

Like I said y'all can see it when other devs do it, but when it comes to Sony y'all like to act dumb.

It's pretty ridiculous at this point

Also you try to dismiss every game that disproves your argument with false qualifiers like the biggest studios and saying what does and doesn't count.

No.

Again my argument was laid out in the OP. Has not changed. I'm only talking about Sony AAA 1st party games.

Nobody is playing dumb here. God of War, Spiderman, and Uncharted have almost nothing to do with each other. The gameplay of all of them is widely different.

Yeah you are

The gameplay in Asscreed and Far Cry is "widely different" but you can see there's a similar design philosophy driving the devs decisions.

But when it comes to Sony nah can't see it. Sony's perfect

 

[MeachTheMonster]

Wow, i didn't think you could be this dishonest

The full quote in CONTEXT

You literally just posted one line referring to what he thought of the game from the E3 2017 video.

I know it's just one line, but it shows I'm not the only one to draw that conclusion after seeing what they've shown of the game.

Y'all say I'm making shyt up, but it's a conclusion a lot of people had from watching the trailers.

the "missions"? The one mission they showed off looked like their other games?

You never played any of "their other games" so for you to sit here and act like you know what you're talking about is laughable. Dude, go play Cuphead, you're sounding silly in here.

See here you pretend I'm just making things up, but the guy you quoted felt the same way.

Y'all Sony stans are a sad bunch

 

[Fatboi1]

I know it's just one line, but it shows I'm not the only one to draw that conclusion after seeing what they've shown of the game.

Y'all say I'm making shyt up, but it's a conclusion a lot of people had from watching the trailers.

You're taking a line about ONE gameplay clip from last year, and saying the whole game is like that. You then ignore the hands on impressions link from GI talking about the gameplay and stuff RECENTLY and you knew that because you deliberately pulled just one sentence out of the entire article to push a narrative.

See here you pretend I'm just making things up, but the guy you quoted felt the same way.

Y'all Sony stans are a sad bunch

Keyword FELT. FELT is past tense. Your making things up because you said the "missions" keyword MISSIONS as in plural. They only showed literally ONE sequence and you say the "missions" are like that from one mission.

Read the hands on impression genius. Your trolling is just bordering on insanity now.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

You're taking a line about ONE gameplay clip from last year, and saying the whole game is like that. You then ignore the hands on impressions link from GI talking about the gameplay and stuff and you knew that because you deliberately pulled just one sentence out of the entire article to push a narrative.




Keyword FELT. FELT is past tense. Read the hands on impression genius. Your trolling is just bordering on insanity now.

I swear you are dumb as fukk.

I understand after playing the game he has different feelings.

I'm saying as a spectator, as he was BEFORE playing it, as I am now, he came to the same conclusion.

But y'all in here acting like I'm making things up.

Same happened with the aforementioned games in this thread. Remember there was a bunch of previews saying The Order wasn't as shallow as it looked in trailers. And you argued me down then about how it was not going to be as shallow as it was. And we see how that turned out.


I know Spideman has some open world exploration, and that will be very different from one of the other "movie games" but still as of now, what they've shown of the missions seems to be following Sony's cinematic formula that all their games do.

I could be wrong, but that doesn't happen often

 

[Fatboi1]

I swear you are dumb as fukk

I understand after playing the game he has different feelings.

So why the fukk are you talking then? Shut up and wait till it comes out and play it. Of course, you won't play it you'll just watch a video, trim a sequence of some fly shyt and say "See! UNCHARTED!"

I'm saying as a spectator, as he was BEFORE playing it, he came to the same conclusion.

you didn't say that, you just skipped the entire article, posted that one line without the surrounding text and ignored the question. You said "Even the guy you quoted says so".

But y'all in here acting like I'm making things up.

You are.

Same happened with the aforementioned games in this thread. Remember You were was a bunch of previews saying The Order wasn't has shallow as it looked in trailers. And you argued me down then about how it was not going to be as shallow as it was. And we see how that turned out.

*says aforementioned games*

*names one game*

I know Spideman has some open world exploration, and that will be very different from one of the other "movie games" but still as of now, what they've shown of the missions seems to be following Sony's cinematic formula that all their games do.

I think i missed those other missions gameplay you've seen. Can you post them here? Those other missions you're bringing up

could be wrong, but that doesn't happen often

nikka stop posting.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

So why the fukk are you talking then? Shut up and wait till it comes out and play it. Of course, you won't play it you'll just watch a video, trim a sequence of some fly shyt and say "See! UNCHARTED!"



you didn't say that, you just skipped the entire article, posted that one line without the surrounding text and ignored the question. You said "Even the guy you quoted says so".

You are.


*says aforementioned games*

*names one game*





I think i missed those other missions gameplay you've seen. Can you post them here? Those other missions you're bringing up

nikka stop posting.

Have stanary clog up your reading comprehension brehs

 

[Fatboi1]

Have stanary clog up your reading comprehension brehs

You know you lost when you resort to that smiley.