Somebody, Anybody.....#DoSomething: 2019 FSU Seminoles

[klutch2381]

And yet I'm the crazy one when it comes to Jimbo. Hard headed fukker needs an OC.

He calls play with no rhyme or reason. They just seem like random plays drawn out of a hat or some shyt. The best OC's create a domino effect where their previous plays called earlier in the game set up a certain reaction from the defense, and when the defense reacts in the expected manner they get hit with some other shyt.

I'll say this, as far as college I was really impressed by Jedd Fisch's play calling when he was at Miami. Some of it is personnel and how versatile your players are because Norm Chow was at USC and trash everywhere after USC, but goddamn.

Jimbo calls two or three good games a year. That's not even hyperbole.

 

[Dr. Narcisse]

Still has shyt presence in the pocket, still has shyt footwork, still holds on to the ball way too long, still eye fukks his first read. First time seeing him in person and it's a lot different than watching it from your couch. Kid just doesn't have what it takes to take it to the next level

I wanna believe, breh.

I mean, when you complete 58% of your passes you gotta improve, right? Right?

Accuracy seems like some intrinsic shyt that you can only improve marginally, though. He's not accurate enough on this level.

I think yall being too hard on Frenchie...

It also hurts that we were spoiled by Jameis. Frenchie is/was well ahead of where Ponder and EJ were in their development. Also you have to factor in that Jimbo doesn't allow his QBs really to develop a rhythm. Its a methodical offense thats beholden to rigid play calling. Could see those damn reverses coming from a mile away.

Does he have elite accuracy? No. However, he wouldn't need it anyway if the offense was more QB friendly (which is something hard to admit because that was one of the selling points of Jimbo at one time)

Plus he was playing Bama and dealt with Saban...thats tough.

Sadly Frenchie needed this season of reps to further his development. Now he won't get it. It's not about having elite accuracy or presence. Its about the level of comfort you have in the offense and in your game. RS JR Francois is/would have been a NC caliber QB....

Maybe Blackman has that gift of anticipation though. Hope so.

 

[klutch2381]

Jimbo is one of those Lombardi minded coaches in that he doesn't think it really matters "what" is called, but more so "how" it's executed. Any play executed well will work. shyt works great when you have a number 1 draft pick at QB and a team loaded with future NFL players in the two deep, but when you don't have that it leaves a lot to be desired.

 

[alpo]

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[Lucky_Lefty]

It also hurts that we were spoiled by Jameis. Frenchie is/was well ahead of where Ponder and EJ were in their development.

Honestly man, that's a really low bar. I'm not expecting another Jameis I just want a competent quarterback who can progress and maximize his talent. This dude is still 2016-2017 Frenchie. You gotta admit, if Malik or Deandre was there, Frenchie would've either transferred or remained stuck at third string

 

[Champ_KW]

You misspelled ever


Also, is anyone lending any credence to Jeff Cameron said yesterday about Frenchie may never start again at FSU? I can see it if we get Fields maybe.

I told my boys this the very night he got hurt. This was the last game he starts at FSU. Blackman is gonna surprise a lot of people. He's an elite thrower of the ball and his height will allow him to make faster decisions. I always thought Frenchy struggled with holding the ball too long because he can't really see over the line and see the breaks take place. He's actually waiting until he sees the WR turn around and be open. Our lack of depth at QB should be enough to get Fields on campus but I'm hearing a lot of noise that those "duffle bag" boys in Athens are making a charge.

 

[Champ_KW]

And yet I'm the crazy one when it comes to Jimbo. Hard headed fukker needs an OC.

Jimbo called one ridiculously terrible play (the 2nd reverse) all game. Everything else was spot on. Special teams and Francois' brain farts made us one dimensional and kinda forced Jimbo's hand. His offense looks best when he has a QB that can throw vertical accurately because of all the long routes and options WR's have in this offense. I know I may sound a little too optimistic, but a QB like Malik Henry or Blackman that throws down field with anticipation and accuracy works wonders for Jimbo's offense. I honestly think the offense will be more explosive with Blackman than with Frenchy. If it's not, then I'm willing to look at Jimbo. Either way, this game was too hard to gauge. We just saw a NFL Super Bowl winning play caller just produce Bama's worst yardage per play and total yards in about 3-4 yrs. Sometimes you just gotta tip your hat to a defense and move on. Cause for 2 1/2 qtrs, Jimbo's offense was a step ahead of Pruitt AND Saban, two defensive coaching stalwarts.

 

[Dr. Narcisse]

Honestly man, that's a really low bar. I'm not expecting another Jameis I just want a competent quarterback who can progress and maximize his talent. This dude is still 2016-2017 Frenchie. You gotta admit, if Malik or Deandre was there, Frenchie would've either transferred or remained stuck at third string

Just depends on what you think his ceiling is.

DeAndre would have been "better" his first couple of years. However, a comfortable Frenchie probably is elite by his RS JR or RS SR year. This is where the need for young QBs to play has thrown off some guys development. He was always more of a project than the other guys.

Henry...is just a shame. Because yea in terms of natural poise and talent he could have been a great QB. He goes in the Adrian McPherson category of "what if"

 

[jwonder]

Jimbo called one ridiculously terrible play (the 2nd reverse) all game. Everything else was spot on. Special teams and Francois' brain farts made us one dimensional and kinda forced Jimbo's hand. His offense looks best when he has a QB that can throw vertical accurately because of all the long routes and options WR's have in this offense. I know I may sound a little too optimistic, but a QB like Malik Henry or Blackman that throws down field with anticipation and accuracy works wonders for Jimbo's offense. I honestly think the offense will be more explosive with Blackman than with Frenchy. If it's not, then I'm willing to look at Jimbo. Either way, this game was too hard to gauge. We just saw a NFL Super Bowl winning play caller just produce Bama's worst yardage per play and total yards in about 3-4 yrs. Sometimes you just gotta tip your hat to a defense and move on. Cause for 2 1/2 qtrs, Jimbo's offense was a step ahead of Pruitt AND Saban, two defensive coaching stalwarts.

I'm talking in general. Not this game. I still think he needs an OC. So many weapons hard to be an HC and OC at the same time. And how do you know the offense will be more explosive with Blackman? He hasn't stepped on the field yet. And trust me I'm pulling for him to do well. I just have to see what he does on the field in college not in practice. I'm kind of leaning that he maybe, just because his attitude reminds me of DeAndre Johnson. fukk it I'mma throw this bytch.

One thing I do have to agree after watching several games. Francois tends to hold onto the ball for too long. He MUST work on that. But he is a very good QB. Jimbo is suspect. We're not going to have a Jameis Winston every year. He's like a once a decade plus player. Getting an OC will help out a lot with getting more players involved. We have a fukking arsenal out there not being in heavy rotation.

 

[jwonder]

Just depends on what you think his ceiling is.

DeAndre would have been "better" his first couple of years. However, a comfortable Frenchie probably is elite by his RS JR or RS SR year. This is where the need for young QBs to play has thrown off some guys development. He was always more of a project than the other guys.

Henry...is just a shame. Because yea in terms of natural poise and talent he could have been a great QB. He goes in the Adrian McPherson category of "what if"

Out of the all the QB's I thought Johnson had the WOW factor. Nice deep ball and got the ball out quick. Johnson would have started over MacGuire when Golson fizzed out. So Francois would have waited or transferred. Malik Henry from the little that I saw, I wasn't impressed just like I'm not impressed with Fields.

 

[Dr. Narcisse]

Out of the all the QB's I thought Johnson had the WOW factor. Nice deep ball and got the ball out quick. Johnson would have started over MacGuire when Golson fizzed out. So Francois would have waited or transferred. Malik Henry from the little that I saw, I wasn't impressed just like I'm not impressed with Fields.

I disagree.
This is just my opinion...


I think DeAndre would have been a very solid QB. Somebody that we could count on, but yet we'd probably want to know if another QB could reach the offense full potential.

Again DJ > DF early on, but eventually when competing for a championship Jimbo might have moved towards DF or MH regardless in a couple of years. DJ's floor was much higher than the other qbs and yes he could have played early. However, I think at best he'd be Tahj Boyd kind of QB. Which is really good. However, DF and MH had legit NFL talent. Jimbo was going to give into that eventually. Jimbo and Lane Kiffin are wired that way. They are going to go with the more traditional pocket passer. Guys with arms that can challenge a defense on all three levels. In a different system then yea DJ could have been a beast here. However, under Jimbo that would have only been for so long until another guy was ready.

You're seriously underrating Fields. He has the mobility to make up for Jimbo's rigid play calling as well. Now whether he gets a shot or not depends on Blackman or DF health next year.

I feel good about Blackman playing really well so Fields might not be here anyway.

 

[jwonder]

I disagree.
This is just my opinion...


I think DeAndre would have been a very solid QB. Somebody that we could count on, but yet we'd probably want to know if another QB could reach the offense full potential.

Again DJ > DF early on, but eventually when competing for a championship Jimbo might have moved towards DF or MH regardless in a couple of years. DJ's floor was much higher than the other qbs and yes he could have played early. However, I think at best he'd be Tahj Boyd kind of QB. Which is really good. However, DF and MH had legit NFL talent. Jimbo was going to give into that eventually. Jimbo and Lane Kiffin are wired that way. They are going to go with the more traditional pocket passer. Guys with arms that can challenge a defense on all three levels. In a different system then yea DJ could have been a beast here. However, under Jimbo that would have only been for so long until another guy was ready.

You're seriously underrating Fields. He has the mobility to make up for Jimbo's rigid play calling as well. Now whether he gets a shot or not depends on Blackman or DF health next year.

I feel good about Blackman playing really well so Fields might not be here anyway.

De'Andre had the wow factor like Jameis in the scrimmage game. Not saying he was Jameis. But you were like . The talent we had at RB and WR he would have flourished in IMO. I don't think Johnson is a QB that can really ball without the studs though at every position. He's at FAU and we'll see what he can do with lower tier players.

Malik Henry another hyped kid that I was like meh on. It's not really accurate to say what he can do when he never really played at the college level. He didn't wow me even in the scrimmage. But then again he's on drugs, so you never know. Francois looks good. The only knock on him is holding onto the ball. I think one of them of course would have been starting after Johnson left which most likely would have been last season. Henry and Francois would have battled it out for this year.

Blackman I hope can come in and ball out. I think he has the potential to do it.

 

[klutch2381]

We all neeeeddddddd it. Can't live without ittttttttttttttttt. Gotham cityyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy.....




I wanna believe.

 

[CarltonJunior]

Out of the all the QB's I thought Johnson had the WOW factor. Nice deep ball and got the ball out quick. Johnson would have started over MacGuire when Golson fizzed out. So Francois would have waited or transferred. Malik Henry from the little that I saw, I wasn't impressed just like I'm not impressed with Fields.

Watched DeAndre Johnson for years, went to school with him. Great talent, mobile with a nice arm. More physically gifted than Francois I think. But he hasn't shown the type of presence or accuracy that Francois has in the pocket, and I think our offense isn't designed for a player like him. Jimbo has always catered to more "pro-style" QBs rather than "college-style" QBs and Johnson is more of the latter. We might have been in better hands right now if he was on the roster but he wouldn't have won the initial battle for the job like you and a few others are implying.

Should probably ease up on the Francois heat in here, he's the 2nd best QB in the ACC (Kelly Bryant pending), and I think he'll succeed wherever he decides to transfer to.

 

[jwonder]

Watched DeAndre Johnson for years, went to school with him. Great talent, mobile with a nice arm. More physically gifted than Francois I think. But he hasn't shown the type of presence or accuracy that Francois has in the pocket, and I think our offense isn't designed for a player like him. Jimbo has always catered to more "pro-style" QBs rather than "college-style" QBs and Johnson is more of the latter. We might have been in better hands right now if he was on the roster but he wouldn't have won the initial battle for the job like you and a few others are implying.

Should probably ease up on the Francois heat in here, he's the 2nd best QB in the ACC (Kelly Bryant pending), and I think he'll succeed wherever he decides to transfer to.

If Johnson balled out when Golson came I don't see him benched. Only if he was mediocre.

All I said was that Francois holds on to the ball too long which is true.

And why is he transferring. Blackman hasn't even played yet. lol

But the name Blackman. Awesome. He's got to be great.