Some NBA players may protest by boycotting playoffs

[YoungMoneyCashMoneyBoy]

I see you're back from yesterday after not answering my question about George Hill and Myles Turner. Here's a recap of what they've said and of others who have spoken up, cac:

George Hill:
"We've been doing this for 400 years. It's been the same. So, for me, it just means more because you're supposed to look at those people as protectors, and you don't have that. You're supposed to look at all these situations as learning lessons, but you're like, 'When is learning enough? Like when is it enough? Like when are we going to be tired of this? How do we change the narrative?' So, for me, it's just tough.

No, I'm not going to shut up and dribble. I don't care if you take my contract, I don't care if you say that I'm this or that, I'm human. I have a heart. I have a pulse. I have emotions. I'm a man. I have kids. I'm a father. I have a wife. I have friends. I have loved ones. It means [something] to me. I'm not going to just shut up and dribble."

So, that's my last thought on my mind is basketball. I can care less what's going on. I think there's bigger issues and bigger things to tackle in life right now than a basketball game, but that's just my personal opinion."

Myles Turner
"I'm paid millions of dollars to go out there and perform at a high level so part of it's like, 'Man, you've got to suck it up and go out there and do what you're paid to do,' but the other part of it is like, 'Listen man this basketball s---, I love it, it's part of what makes me me, but it's not all of what makes me me, either,' and I have a responsibility as a young black professional athlete to advocate for this change."

Avery Bradley, the Lakers guard, was the second person to speak on the call behind Irving and was vocal throughout, urging players to take a stand and utilize this moment to "play chess, not checkers."

Dwight Howard stressed to players that playing in Orlando will become a distraction from the issues the country is facing, and that they need to unify and use this moment to create a change.

Mitchell, Anthony and Howard all "expressed their desire not to play at this juncture."

CJ McCollum also voted "no" on returning to play this season.

Stay mad, cac.

 

[Everythingg]

The highlight of my NBA summer is the NBA Lottery,Free Agency and the Draft .

I’m not getting any personal joy from watching any of these nikkas win a ring

but if you think sitting out is going to make some grand shift in the fight against oppression , that’s you .

we just disagree

I never said it was about them fighting oppression. I just said black people on the ground level with no money tied in shouldnt be clamoring for a return when all eyes are on your plight now moreso than ever...

You show your "obsession" with your highlights of Lottery/FA/and the draft. No basketball even played just storylines around it. And I say that as I play 2k right now so Im not above it. Im just saying, when all eyes are on our oppression, Im not clamoring for the entertainment world to come back into the fray

 

[Originalman]

yep because a lot of black players didnt have Kap back like that.

when you do the unpopular thing, you gon get backlash

they could have came together to make sure Kap didn't get blackballed.

now some black players coming out saying they should have had Kap back then.

True but what I am referring to more so is how folks called out players for not kneeling. Even on this very site. Then after players kneeled losing endorsements and even some lower picks getting cut. Like that brotha in philly.

NO ONE SAID shyt!! Not a thank you not a hey lets set up a go fund cause you put your career on the line.....NOTHING!

So as I have said many times on this site. Do not criticize folks to do shyt that your ass ain't doing or willing to do.

In the end jokers got penis and money envy of these famous black folks and think they deserve to destroy everything they worked for to make a point. That they themselves won't even lift a finger to do the same.

Also I ain't gonna put that all on the players with Kap getting white balled. Black fans could have stopped buying anything affiliated with the NFL and that whiteballin shyt would have stopped instantly. Once again can't keep passing this off to famous black folks. Regular black folks are just as accountable and they hands bloody too.

 

[Trojan 24]

Anyone know if the league is going to attempt/allowed to reach into the players pockets next year? Those stadiums won't be at full capacity and they won't be seeing their regular revenue.

 

[Edub]

Man, some of y’all are dumb as fukk. If history (even recent history: see BLM 2016-2017, Occupy Wall Street, Obama “change” etc.) has shown us ANYTHING it’s that if you don’t capitalize and invoke real change while the community is galvanized - the movement and energy that fed the movement will fizzle, and the status quo will remain. Movements/reformation needs consistent fuel to stay ablaze. Kyrie is right. The time is now. Not 400 years ago. Not 400 years from now. Not two years from now nor 20. All entertainment is escapism in some form or fashion. That’s natural. But, this black people being shoehorned and marginalized into second class citizenship shyt? That’s unnatural. And like an unnatural body that enters the blood stream - that shyt gotta go immediately.

I don’t even know how a black person could have any opposition towards Kyrie’s stance; but this is the Coli.

Actually having the nba broadcasting and continually pumping George Floyd and BLM in your face nightly would actually be far more effective at this point than ....the world taking notice that Kyrie irving isn’t playing basketball.......when Trayvon got clipped the NBA moved that movement forward more than anyone else BY ACTUALLY AIRING GAMES AND MESSAGES DURING THE HEIGHT OF THE ISSUE.......

The players staying home moves the needle 0% .....cuz if these guys aren’t balling their significance of where they stand looses potency......we need african American stars on tv to move the needle in a way only they can, in front of world wide audiences.......

Kyrie graduated from Duke, no offense (I hope) but I highly doubt the next brain savvy enough to lead black peoples from their situation will be from there.....because what Kyrie is saying is the EXACT OPPOSITE of having an impact.......

 

[Trojan 24]

someone bring back david stern from the dead

This what I'm talking about, at least Byrie is pushing for something. This bubble shyt is a joke. Might as well let the players be in and out the bubble if that's how they wanna do it

 

[SchoolboyC]

You'd be surprised just how many people dont actually give a fukk. A lot of people protesting "finally understand" cause they were bored and frustrated about sitting at home during quarantine. What makes what happened to George different from Eric, or Tamir, or Trayvon etc etc.

And I feel that point. I don’t think Kyrie or Lou Will’s stances are unreasonable at all. I don’t think the players who are skeptical of the bubble’s safety are unreasonable. But a part of me feels like the distraction component is being slightly overstated.

And truthfully, if the NFL plays as scheduled then it will be irrelevant whether the NBA does or doesn’t return.

 

[Edub]

If a basketball game being on causes you to not care about the protests/movement, that person didn’t give a fukk anyway.

/thread

 

[Dr. Narcisse]

And I feel that point. I don’t think Kyrie or Lou Will’s stances are unreasonable at all. I don’t think the players who are skeptical of the bubble’s safety are unreasonable. But a part of me feels like the distraction component is being slightly overstated.

And truthfully, if the NFL plays as scheduled then it will be irrelevant whether the NBA does or doesn’t return.

IMO...
If they're going this route...they need to get the NFL brehs on their side. No matter what football is king.
NBA season disappears then people will just simply move onto the NFL. You'll have those who say they've been without basketball for almost a year so they found they can do without.

Dont wanna be like baseball like after the lockout season where people just tuned out.

 

[SchoolboyC]

IMO...
If they're going this route...they need to get the NFL brehs on their side. No matter what football is king.
NBA season disappears then people will just simply move onto the NFL. You'll have those who say they've been without basketball for almost a year so they found they can do without.

Dont wanna be like baseball like after the lockout season where people just tuned out.

Exactly, but at the same time the NFL players can hardly unite for their own causes so that’s wishful thinking.

But yeah, if the NFL/MLB/NHL are all playing while the NBA is boycotting, how impactful can it really be?

 

[jwinfield]

Thecoli: Powerful Players today don't have the balls to make a stand like players back in the day. Too much money on the table to make a united stand







Also thecoli: don't they know the money they'll be missing out on? why can't they protest and play? what does sitting out do?why can't they make me happy? why can't they fill the void in my life?

The forum talks all the time about how athletes should realize how much power they have and should use that. As soon as athletes start flexing their power then it's, "They're just doing that so they don't have to play anymore", "they're just being contrarian" "they need to think about the money first"

This should dead all the talk moving forward about players not doing enough, how the Clippers weren't shyt for the turning their warmups inside out, deifying Craig Hodges in part because he wanted MJ and Magic to boycott game 1 of the 91 finals.

Whether it's for safety reasons, the plans put forth by the NBA not being clear enough and seemingly changing every update, not wanting to be locked in a bubble that's not really a bubble for 3 months, or for feeling that right now is a moment that should be focused on other things that don't include basketball, not sure why people are upset about players not just signing up and actually expressing their opinion and concerns.

The guy who was elected VP of the NBAPA this January by his peers is a "driving force" in organizing calls and raising concerns

Wouldn't that be the duties of of the VP of a player's organization? Other players have been quoted in this thread as having similar concerns, why wouldn't the VP be a main voice, especially if he's speaking for players that may have different opinions than that of the President and players that want to just get back to playing.

Who else should be a driving force if not one of the guys on the executive committee?

Kyrie starts suggesting not playing and cats like Woj and others in the media instantly starts vilifying him for doing so. People really think the media, in particular sports media, is going to be able to talk about two things at once?

Windhorst is going to be on ESPN 6 hours a day talking about what rides Bron got on and how many turkey legs he ate.

 

[I AM WARHOL]

And I feel that point. I don’t think Kyrie or Lou Will’s stances are unreasonable at all. I don’t think the players who are skeptical of the bubble’s safety are unreasonable. But a part of me feels like the distraction component is being slightly overstated.

And truthfully, if the NFL plays as scheduled then it will be irrelevant whether the NBA does or doesn’t return.

Try to see the players as sitting out less as a form of lessing a distraction, and more as a form for standing in solidarity.

 

[100Percent]

And I feel that point. I don’t think Kyrie or Lou Will’s stances are unreasonable at all. I don’t think the players who are skeptical of the bubble’s safety are unreasonable. But a part of me feels like the distraction component is being slightly overstated.

And truthfully, if the NFL plays as scheduled then it will be irrelevant whether the NBA does or doesn’t return.

Thats the part I feel like isn't be discussed enough. I see Kyries side but at the end of the day the people who need to hear that message will be watching football a week after the boycott happens.

 

[Yayo Toure]

i respect the stance, i just disagree

Tbh I can see both sides, so if you disagree that's cool.

In a way it's weird Kyrie is the face of this new movement, since as I recall he was done for the season and not going to play in Orlando anyway. But now you have guys from winning teams like Lou Will, Avery Bradley and Dwight supporting sitting out, it's going to get very interesting.

NBA might just say fukk it and make it a 3 on 3 tournament to win the title.

 

[SchoolboyC]

Try to see the players as sitting out less as a form of lessing a distraction, and more as a form for standing in solidarity.

But that is some players stances, that the NBA coming back is going to distract from people paying attention to the movement and getting involved. Lou Will was saying exactly that when he was going back and forth with a fan under Taylor Rooks post.

And don’t get me wrong, I’ll reiterate that I see where Lou’s coming from. I don’t think there’s necessarily a “wrong” side.