Solving the issue of homosexuality

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1. Hating Christians or any religious group....which are a group of people is bigotry...plain and simple. Hating the institution is your own problem.

2. Wrong in their views why? Cause it doesn't go with your views?

Still cant read, can you?

:heh:


Anyways I had a laugh last night thinking to myself is homosexuality a pun or am I missing something?
 

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You have an issue with homosexuality, doesn't mean gays do. Just water the grass on your side of the fence
 

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1. Hating Christians or any religious group....which are a group of people is bigotry...plain and simple. Hating the institution is your own problem.

2. Wrong in their views why? Cause it doesn't go with your views?

1. Hating Christians and treating them poorly would be bigotry. Hating Christianity isn't. Those two are not the same.

2. Wrong because it doesn't adhere to logic and reason and is thus rooted in personal opinions and emotions.
 

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They're against the idea because disorder is a label of negative value. Homosexuality can be studied just fine without labeling it a disorder.



I think it's not science. It commits the fallacy of functionalism, by conflating statistical normality, or how common something is, with a metaphysical judgment of value. Nature can only make mistakes if it's preprogrammed, even if imperfectly, for a particular purpose, and thus can be judged according to the value of its specific developments in serving that purpose. That's an argument with religious origins, even when it's disguised. For example, when someone says "the purpose of life is to reproduce," that is a functionalist fallacy, since it assumes nature is the vessel of some kind of end goal, and then that phenomena that help towards achieving this end are thus inherently good while those that do not are inherently bad. Even having the instinct to reproduce in one's DNA does not and cannot demonstrate that reproduction is a goal in this ultimately religious sense, and thus, cannot be used to judge people who do not want to reproduce as bad in some way. Similarly, the author's distinction between homosexuality and left-handedness is completely unsupported and unsupportable without resorting to this same fallacy.

Life has no demonstrable purpose. It only has tendencies that we can measure and declare stronger or weaker. Thus, homosexuality is a statistical abnormality, or a weaker tendency, since it is not common- but being a statistical abnormality is not an indication of any inherent value or lack thereof. In other words, it's not unnatural. Being the result of uncommon genetic mutations and chemical ratios and life experiences doesn't make it unnatural.

If nature contains no inherent meanings and values, then the only meanings there are come from us. We have decided that something like depression is a disorder, because it impairs the ability of an individual by their own standards (and survival, or living a fulfilling life, or any other standard here, is ultimately man-made, even if it's influenced by instinct.) We have decided that psychosis is a disorder, because it not only impairs the individual, but can cause that individual to harm others around them. Homosexuality does none of these things. Therefore, it makes no sense to label it a disorder.



Studying the origins of all these phenomena are useful for different reasons. Again, labeling homosexuality a disorder automatically leads to social and political problems because it devalues it to the status of something that must be fixed or otherwise eliminated, as with the other things that people label disorders.
Disorder is just something that - is a medical condition involving a disturbance to the usual functioning of the mind or body.
Not necessary negative in the sense that you're speaking. Most disorders mental and physical aren't considered negative and don't warrant chastisement so essentially your argument is full of shyt AND YOU know it , lol.

Also, if a scientist says something or someone quotes something from a peer reviewed publication.... they are committing fallacies and aren't science?? Also, lets not pretend that theories aren't proven wrong and fallacies all the time. wow. aight you're not really being The Real.

Being the result of uncommon genetic mutations and chemical ratios and life experiences doesn't make it unnatural
Most of the things that we try to cure and fix and explore and research ways to combat and consider uncommon and counterproductive to our species ----- aren't unnatural And I never said it's not natural... I just said that labeling it appropriately could help the gay rights issues and causes.
 

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homosexuality is sick and evil. homosexuals aren't ok with themselves being gay, they try to spread and force their lifestyles upon heterosexuals. This article is a perfect example. He (NOT SHE) was okay
(n1gga was alive) until he tried to wine up on an unsuspecting straight male. Why even attend this type of event in the first place? Why not go to a gay club and wine up on a next battyman? Why try to deceive a straight male? Dwayne Jones got what he deserved.

N1ggas in jamaican are not down for that.
 

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How do we correct this for future generations?

We combat, try to prevent, and research ways to fix every mental disorder and genetic defect expect one. The one we don't even try with is related to one of our most vital functions and behaviors - sexuality...... so in turn the defect influences our culture and perceptions about our specie's normal behaviors.

Or do some of you believe that being gay is a choice - Not only a choice but an agenda pushed to 'infect' others? I say that even if someone wasn't born gay - if something traumatic happened that made them want to be gay - then that is also mental along the lines of PTSD.

Side note: if it was accepted as a disorder there will be no barriers to any gay rights agendas.

Touching a Nerve: Exploring the Implications of the Self as Brain, Part 2 [Excerpt]: Scientific American


How do we correct this for future generations?

Why is it not on this list?
Mental Disorders & Conditions - DSM

for a heterosexual you are thinking way to much about homosexuality.

in fact if people with your mind set did not try to regulate the way people have sex you would not see the backlash you are complaining about.
 

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for a heterosexual you are thinking way to much about homosexuality.

in fact if people with your mind set did not try to regulate the way people have sex you would not see the backlash you are complaining about.
Well that article wasn't about homosexuality.. but homo was a paragraph of it. In life I don't really think about it.... but on here it comes up.

what's my mindset... cuz I never really said anything about the way people have sex... I participate in some sexual practices myself that few people would agree with, so that's not the point.

The backlash is on the gays for- transgender doing crazy things... because of parades, media overrepresentation, and the fight for rights based on it being the same as hetro. I say that if they embraced the science on it, they would solve all their fight and issues..
 

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Well that article wasn't about homosexuality.. but homo was a paragraph of it. In life I don't really think about it.... but on here it comes up.

what's my mindset... cuz I never really said anything about the way people have sex... I participate in some sexual practices myself that few people would agree with, so that's not the point.

The backlash is on the gays for- transgender doing crazy things... because of parades, media overrepresentation, and the fight for rights based on it being the same as hetro. I say that if they embraced the science on it, they would solve all their fight and issues..

last time they embraced the science of it they were institutionalized and arrested.
 
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