Solving the issue of homosexuality

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last time they embraced the science of it they were institutionalized and arrested.
... in the 20th or 21st century has this happened in America?? They like to equate themselves to groups that were burned from trees a few decades ago, so one can only assume that in 1998 they were getting dragged on the back of trucks in Texas.
 

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... in the 20th or 21st century has this happened in America?? They like to equate themselves to groups that were burned from trees a few decades ago, so one can only assume that in 1998 they were getting dragged on the back of trucks in Texas.

homosexuals were placed in mental institutions and arrested numerous times during the early to mid 1900's. you forgot that sodomy is still on the books as a crime.
 

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homosexuals were placed in mental institutions and arrested numerous times during the early to mid 1900's. you forgot that sodomy is still on the books as a crime.
Men openly fukk eachother in the ass. Men walk around as couples, and it's all good. Ellen has a TV show. Gays are represents(over) in every aspect of the media. Nobody I know hates gays, or even talks shyt about them. At the most someone might b like, "I'm not down with that fakkit shyt". Big Deal. I live next door to 3 gay dudes... they live normal lives as far as I can tell... I smoke weed w them n shyt (I probably shouldn't, lol, now that I think about it).

Do you know what happens to black people early to med 1900's??? How about 1998 black man dragged down a dirt road in TX... Gays have issues, but I'm not sure calling it the new black is appropriate for some people to do. Stealing a horse = death in some states... so we're gonna pretend like anyone is enforcing that shyt?

what exactly bothers you so much about homosexuality that you have to "solve" it?

Higher Learning blows the democratic party yet your social stances are straight up republican.
not sure if this is directed at me. HL does like the dems because the GOP usually are more extreme with foreign policy. Since the beginning of history, most black families were more socially conservative, so conservative isn't equal to republican. And I don't know about solving it.. I posted the quote, I didn't invent that idea or really care about that idea. . I don't think we can get rid of it, I just think that gays would have no issues with their causes or getting full rights if they embraced scientific definitions.
 

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I see a lot of people agreeing with what the OP addressed...yet all claim heterosexual. Why do these responders care about what two consenting adults do in their private lives? Seems suspect.

We always concern ourselves with other's private lives. Two adults using crack cocaine in the privacy of their own house, yet we say that's a no no. :ld:
 

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It's not on the list because the basic definition of any mental disorder or illness must include a debilitating or damaging element. Gays are not debilitated or harmed by their homosexuality, nor do they harm anyone else because of it. Gays can be successful in any career that a straight person can be successful in. They can contribute to society in as many ways as a straight person who doesn't have kids. They can even adopt, and raise healthy, successful children that way (as studies have shown time and time again, gay parents have no adverse effects on their children, nor are their children influenced in their sexuality by them.)

As humans, we don't and cannot structure society around functionalist imperatives like breeding to the exclusion of people who don't want children or have different sexual orientations without becoming tyrannical. To simply decide to turn statistical normalities like having children into moral or political imperatives is dangerous.

I'd say that's damaging, son.
 

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Men openly fukk eachother in the ass. Men walk around as couples, and it's all good. Ellen has a TV show. Gays are represents(over) in every aspect of the media. Nobody I know hates gays, or even talks shyt about them. At the most someone might b like, "I'm not down with that fakkit shyt". Big Deal. I live next door to 3 gay dudes... they live normal lives as far as I can tell... I smoke weed w them n shyt (I probably shouldn't, lol, now that I think about it).

Do you know what happens to black people early to med 1900's??? How about 1998 black man dragged down a dirt road in TX... Gays have issues, but I'm not sure calling it the new black is appropriate for some people to do. Stealing a horse = death in some states... so we're gonna pretend like anyone is enforcing that shyt?


not sure if this is directed at me. HL does like the dems because the GOP usually are more extreme with foreign policy. Since the beginning of history, most black families were more socially conservative, so conservative isn't equal to republican. And I don't know about solving it.. I posted the quote, I didn't invent that idea or really care about that idea. . I don't think we can get rid of it, I just think that gays would have no issues with their causes or getting full rights if they embraced scientific definitions.

why are you comparing gays and black struggle. The issue that i brought up was that if they follow the science then those that have agenda's against them will use the science to oppress them that is why it is more of a moral issue. you going off on tangents does not prove your point.
 

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why are you comparing gays and black struggle. The issue that i brought up was that if they follow the science then those that have agenda's against them will use the science to oppress them that is why it is more of a moral issue. you going off on tangents does not prove your point.

But I don't get how people who say follow the science on every issue on the planet want to ignore it on this issue. It is what it is regardless of our come, imo. Also, imo, we are civilized by now. This isn't some rural 3rd world village, this is the modern world and gays don't feel oppression now, and wont with science data- so they should embrace this because the majority of their opposition is saying they are using life choices to justify their agendas - when they want to make the case that its a thing you're born with.
 

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But I don't get how people who say follow the science on every issue on the planet want to ignore it on this issue. It is what it is regardless of our come, imo. Also, imo, we are civilized by now. This isn't some rural 3rd world village, this is the modern world and gays don't feel oppression now, and wont with science data- so they should embrace this because the majority of their opposition is saying they are using life choices to justify their agendas - when they want to make the case that its a thing you're born with.

you truly believe gays do not feel oppression now?

you live in your own world then.
The issue with homosexuality is a moral one and how we treat each other by the title of this thread you have a problem with it and are trying to "solve" it when in reality it has nothing to do with you. You say we are civilized then bring up the in your other post the uncivilized ways blacks in this country are treated not to long ago. You are all over the place with your thoughts.
 

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you truly believe gays do not feel oppression now?

you live in your own world then.
The issue with homosexuality is a moral one and how we treat each other by the title of this thread you have a problem with it and are trying to "solve" it when in reality it has nothing to do with you. You say we are civilized then bring up the in your other post the uncivilized ways blacks in this country are treated not to long ago. You are all over the place with your thoughts.
lol, get real. We are civilized. Just because on occasion we participate in forms of savagery doesn't make that untrue. Black in this nation deal with CAC motivations and uncivilized treatment but that doesn't = the entire situation and nation is uncivilized.

lol, idk if gays feel oppressed. I know some gay people, they seem aight to me. They are openly gay and everybody is fine w that. People who aren't cool with that get Blasted, called bigots, and are looked at as horrible people. idk what you're talking about. If I turn on network television... what do I see, gays gays and more gays overrepresented in all aspects of the media. Represented in good lights... So I'm not sure how that's oppression. They have rights battles going on with many non-gays supporting them.... and they are abused less than any other 'minority' groups.. so I'm not sure how they feel oppressed. Maybe they are, I'm just not sure about that.
 

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lol, get real. We are civilized. Just because on occasion we participate in forms of savagery doesn't make that untrue. Black in this nation deal with CAC motivations and uncivilized treatment but that doesn't = the entire situation and nation is uncivilized.

lol, idk if gays feel oppressed. I know some gay people, they seem aight to me. They are openly gay and everybody is fine w that. People who aren't cool with that get Blasted, called bigots, and are looked at as horrible people. idk what you're talking about. If I turn on network television... what do I see, gays gays and more gays overrepresented in all aspects of the media. Represented in good lights... So I'm not sure how that's oppression. They have rights battles going on with many non-gays supporting them.... and they are abused less than any other 'minority' groups.. so I'm not sure how they feel oppressed. Maybe they are, I'm just not sure about that.

the media for all it's stereotypes often puts on the best face when dealing with minorities of every facet of society. So although the media does a good job of showing them as a part of society they do not show the reality of them being apart of it. You must live in a very progressive neighborhood but that is not the case in alot of the world. Why is it do you think homosexuals congregate in cities instead of spreading out across the country? They feel safety in numbers and most cities are mix of different cultures anyway so they are often more tolerate to there lifestyle. If they were not oppressed then for the past 30 years they would not have to fight for the rights as hard as they have.

And to your idea that we are more civilized I will just say that is subjective
 

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the media for all it's stereotypes often puts on the best face when dealing with minorities of every facet of society. So although the media does a good job of showing them as a part of society they do not show the reality of them being apart of it. You must live in a very progressive neighborhood but that is not the case in alot of the world. Why is it do you think homosexuals congregate in cities instead of spreading out across the country? They feel safety in numbers and most cities are mix of different cultures anyway so they are often more tolerate to there lifestyle. If they were not oppressed then for the past 30 years they would not have to fight for the rights as hard as they have.

And to your idea that we are more civilized I will just say that is subjective
ok fine.

I live in a very very very Gay city, so my perspective might be different. With all the crime n all that of Detroit, this is fakkit heaven. The head of our city counsel was gay and we have entire streets dedicated to gay prostitution and random gay people everywhere and many young (under 18) flamboyant gay people. Gay clubs in mass. Even with the no-homo hip hop culture here - shyt is still ok for the gays.

I live in a toyota pryis driving, professor living, homo, hispter neighborhood. So it's the definition of progressive -- lol it make me sick sometimes.. I think all sorts of crazy shyt in my head when I'm speaking to these ultra liberals.

Us being civilized is only subjective when you view the treatment of blacks in this nation.
 

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I have no problems with gays because i'm in no position or is anyone else to tell some one how to live and what to do, but their movement is nowhere I mean nowhere near to that of the civil rights and racism in America.

The only people who have problems with homo's are Religious fanatics and those who are afraid of something that affects their 'traditional ways'.
 

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U not solving ish with homos in a country like the US so that's a lost cause that shouldn't take up too much energy fellas. This country, despite its flaws, does allow people to be who they choose to be. I only see LBGT community expanding in the future. Yall gotta relocate to an Africa country or Jamaica to be around more like-minded people on this subject.
 
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