Sohh you telling me a guy that can push planets can't kill a human in a bat mask with one punch?

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People are lucky Batman isn't an a$$hole though or he'd simply block out the sun altogether. Or change the rays red. He already has networks of satallites in orbit and entire spacestations afloat in the earth's atmosphere. He could orchestrate a solar eclipse fairly easily.
Then on top of having no more powers, Superman would have to fight a bat-themed ninja in pitch black darkness.

Batman can cause an eclipse fairly easily brehs:mjlol:

He's gonna block the sun's rays from hitting the earth:laff:
 

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You acting like superman technology at his disposal as well. In all scenarios you're giving batman and advantage. Superman has over come red sun. Supermans power has to be downplayed so much just to make other hero's relevant.

Because he does have the advantage, he's the batman:mjpls: the time we've wasted discussing this was already enough to make the necessary preparations
 

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This whole thread reminds me of Scott Snyder's godawful Batman/Superman fight in Endgame. Had Bats come out in a tank-robot packed with microscopic red sun powered brass knuckles and all kinds of fukking bullshyt.:laff:

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Cleary something is done to GREATLY diminish his powers

OP sound like a clown who watches Tyler Perry movies
 

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To make a long story short, who wins depends on the version depicted.
The Batman I know can defeat Superman because I am a comic collector... but there are many depictions of Batman and Superman in non-comic media. So I understand why others might disagree.

For example, I don't think the movie Batman would or should beat Superman. He can.... but he would not. I do on the other hand think the DCAU Batman would beat the DCAU Superman though. He could lose... but he would win I believe.
The comics Batman would wipe the floor with the comics Superman.. so thats where my bias comes from, but its because of the nature of Batman's power. See, Superman has a set powerset of amazing things he can do, but they have been the same for decades. 90s Superman is about as powerful as 2000 Supes... as 2010 Supes, etc. i.e. His flight and x-ray vision and eye beams aren't getting stronger each issue. They were just strong to begin with.
On the otherhand Batman's power is not fixed. His power is his resources and training. So with each comic he amasses more resources and training.
So year after year his character gets stronger and stronger. He is hoarding more and more crazy technology and mystical artifacts and learning new techniques all the time.
Many don't realize but he has everything at his disposal now from time travel to magic to lantern rings to knowledge of future events... He can put the entire universe to sleep if he wants cause he has sand taken from the hourglass of the Sandman, DC's incarnation of the abstract concept of sleep itself. :dead: He has both a zombie virus AND the cure for it sitting on a shelf in the Batcave. :dead: (from Batman: Contagion). And he has the combined power of all the villains he fights, he just never uses them usually. But he has freeze rays, Bane Venom, lazurus pits to ressurrect himself or should he simply need to regenerate a limb he can do so thanks to the research of poison ivy.
People always pick Supes cause of the ridiculous power he posesses but if they knew half of the overthetop stuff Batman has locked away in the Batcave they would realize that Superman's powers is pretty reasonable by comparason.:yeshrug:

Im not deep in the bat comics but i just knew this nikka had a lazarus pit on stash somewhere. Him and Ghul are too similar and i always thought thats who he would turn out to be if he was a villain
 

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I love how no one touched this :mjlol:

Or how no one complained about iron man taking on the Hulk :sas1:

Its routine. Ironman fights hulk all the time. He has an entire armor series designed specifically to stop him, and a series of programs in place in case he needs to do something more extreme about him (like shoot him into space). He is also one of the primary backers and co-sponsers of the Hulkbuster program. Hulkbusters - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Something interesting is in the Marvel movie universe he doesn't specifically use the Hulkbuster codename for his bulk modular armor... not sure why... but he refers to it ast project Veronica.
My best guess is this is an Archie comics shoutout... because the primary way to stop the Hulk is usually by bringing in his girlfriend, Betty.
So if you don't have Betty, the next best thing would be... Veronica. But I think that went over alot of people's heads.

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Its routine. Ironman fights hulk all the time. He has an entire armor series designed specifically to stop him, and a series of programs in place in case he needs to do something more extreme about him (like shoot him into space). He is also one of the primary backers and co-sponsers of the Hulkbuster program. Hulkbusters - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Something interesting is in the Marvel movie universe he doesn't specifically use the Hulkbuster codename for his bulk modular armor... not sure why... but he refers to it ast project Veronica.
My best guess is this is an Archie comics shoutout... because the primary way to stop the Hulk is usually by bringing in his girlfriend, Betty.
So if you don't have Betty, the next best thing would be... Veronica. But I think that went over alot of people's heads.

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And Batman fights Superman on numerous occasions :yeshrug:

And while this information was interesting, I don't see what it had to do with what I was saying :patrice:
 
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