WHO WINS? KOVALEV OR WARD?

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  • KOVALEV by KNOCKOUT

  • KOVALEV by SPLIT DECISION

  • KOVALEV by UNANIMOUS DECISION

  • WARD by KNOCKOUT

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ℒℴѵℯJay ELECTUA

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I was blessed enough to witness the first fight live in Vegas. Went down there Team KRUSHER.

I put some good money on KRUSHER to win.

Then I witness him win a clear victory but get robbed.

Spent the night at the bar with mad journalists and writers who scored the fight for KRUSHER and were just as perplexed as I was as to how Ward was awarded the W.

Came back to MA and had to endure all the trash Ward fans were talking because their man won. Scratched my head at how those idiots could take pride in a victory that was as bogus as the one Ward was awarded.

Every time I looked up, Ward was trying to convince ppl he won, and that he was gonna retire than fight the rematch.

James Prince texted Ward to remind him that had a rematch clause in contract.

Now here we go again. Ward gets his name first this time. Finally stepping up.

And ill be going back to Vegas. Better seats. Smaller venue. Gonna hit up the day parties this time at Cosmo.

KRUSHER - Ward 2

KRUSHER by TKO in 7th

And I'm gonna put even MORE money on the Russian. :shaq:
hopefully after he takes another Loss he get's run over by a truck and that will be the end of the motherfukka.

Then returns back as the Zombie Krusher!!!!
 

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I was blessed enough to witness the first fight live in Vegas. Went down there Team KRUSHER.

I put some good money on KRUSHER to win.

Then I witness him win a clear victory but get robbed.

Spent the night at the bar with mad journalists and writers who scored the fight for KRUSHER and were just as perplexed as I was as to how Ward was awarded the W.

Came back to MA and had to endure all the trash Ward fans were talking because their man won. Scratched my head at how those idiots could take pride in a victory that was as bogus as the one Ward was awarded.

Every time I looked up, Ward was trying to convince ppl he won, and that he was gonna retire than fight the rematch.

James Prince texted Ward to remind him that had a rematch clause in contract.

Now here we go again. Ward gets his name first this time. Finally stepping up.

And ill be going back to Vegas. Better seats. Smaller venue. Gonna hit up the day parties this time at Cosmo.

KRUSHER - Ward 2

KRUSHER by TKO in 7th

And I'm gonna put even MORE money on the Russian. :shaq:
And you will endure more after this fight too. Stay salty
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No black people have told you this:ufdup:


don't even acknowledge dude at this point if you have some melanin in you and rooting still rooting for kkkov after he's showed his true feelings that's cool but you're not a person I want to engage with on any level. What's crazy is nikkas still rooting for kkkov but my boy @mr. smoke weed looking at this demonic racist like :hhh:
 

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I was blessed enough to witness the first fight live in Vegas. Went down there Team KRUSHER.

I put some good money on KRUSHER to win.

Then I witness him win a clear victory but get robbed.

Spent the night at the bar with mad journalists and writers who scored the fight for KRUSHER and were just as perplexed as I was as to how Ward was awarded the W.

Came back to MA and had to endure all the trash Ward fans were talking because their man won. Scratched my head at how those idiots could take pride in a victory that was as bogus as the one Ward was awarded.

Every time I looked up, Ward was trying to convince ppl he won, and that he was gonna retire than fight the rematch.

James Prince texted Ward to remind him that had a rematch clause in contract.

Now here we go again. Ward gets his name first this time. Finally stepping up.

And ill be going back to Vegas. Better seats. Smaller venue. Gonna hit up the day parties this time at Cosmo.

KRUSHER - Ward 2

KRUSHER by TKO in 7th

And I'm gonna put even MORE money on the Russian. :shaq:
I remember all that pimpin. I also remember when u wouldn't bring up a proper argument as to WHY Kkrusher won in the original thread! Do you have one now? Or just hoping by magic he's better this time, although it's one of the longer layoffs of his career, and nobody has seen JDJ since November?
 

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don't even acknowledge dude at this point if you have some melanin in you and rooting still rooting for kkkov after he's showed his true feelings that's cool but you're not a person I want to engage with on any level. What's crazy is nikkas still rooting for kkkov but my boy @mr. smoke weed looking at this demonic racist like :hhh:

Even Shumenov said KKKovalev's a racist:

RingTV.com: What are your thoughts Sergey Kovalev's comments about African Americans? Were they controversial or not in nature, due to the Russian language? In other words, what was your interpretation of what Kovalev actually said?

Shumenov: I was shocked when I heard about his racist comments that he said in reference about African Americans. There was no misinterpretation or lost in Russian-to-English translation of what he said.

He will have to live with the derogatory words that he said in print and video. A lot of my team are African Americans, and they are more than members of my team, they are family to me. They have my back and I have theirs, and I have zero respect for racist views of any kind.



Beibut Shumenov on near-death, Bernard Hopkins, Sergey Kovalev - The Ring

How any black man can root for someone who already hates you, soley because of the color of your skin at that, is :mindblown: to me
 

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don't even acknowledge dude at this point if you have some melanin in you and rooting still rooting for kkkov after he's showed his true feelings that's cool but you're not a person I want to engage with on any level. What's crazy is nikkas still rooting for kkkov but my boy @mr. smoke weed looking at this demonic racist like :hhh:
Even Shumenov said KKKovalev's a racist:



How any black man can root for someone who already hates you, soley because of the color of your skin at that, is :mindblown: to me
Betting on him I get since he definitely can win. But rooting for him
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I remember all that pimpin. I also remember when u wouldn't bring up a proper argument as to WHY Kkrusher won in the original thread! Do you have one now? Or just hoping by magic he's better this time, although it's one of the longer layoffs of his career, and nobody has seen JDJ since November?

I recall telling you exactly why myself and nearly all of the media/critics/writers picked KRUSHER as the victor. For starters- he threw and landed more punches than Ward. Secondly, scored a KD and gets the extra point. Third, he outscored Ward in 6 rounds and lastly, he landed the more impactful and meaningful shots. I was their live and had excellent seats son. The force of his shots moved Ward off his square continuously. I had it 7-5 KRUSHER, as did 90% of the boxing community.

Close fight? Definitely. Well contested by both. But even after rewatching it 5x at home, still can't find a way to give Ward more than 5 rounds. Sorry.
 

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#SOGGang got these losers throwing away their money in anger :mjgrin:

bet even more on the Russian :mjgrin: put up your house I say :mjgrin:
And you will endure more after this fight too. Stay salty
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hopefully after he takes another Loss he get's run over by a truck and that will be the end of the motherfukka.

Then returns back as the Zombie Krusher!!!!

Yesss, let the hatred flooooww...I will patiently wait til the day after the fight to address you all. Well, maybe I'll wait til Monday since I'll probably be celebrating with team KRUSHER again and may be a bit hung over on Sunday...:whew:
 

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I was blessed enough to witness the first fight live in Vegas. Went down there Team KRUSHER.

I put some good money on KRUSHER to win.

Then I witness him win a clear victory but get robbed.

Spent the night at the bar with mad journalists and writers who scored the fight for KRUSHER and were just as perplexed as I was as to how Ward was awarded the W.

Came back to MA and had to endure all the trash Ward fans were talking because their man won. Scratched my head at how those idiots could take pride in a victory that was as bogus as the one Ward was awarded.

Every time I looked up, Ward was trying to convince ppl he won, and that he was gonna retire than fight the rematch.

James Prince texted Ward to remind him that had a rematch clause in contract.

Now here we go again. Ward gets his name first this time. Finally stepping up.

And ill be going back to Vegas. Better seats. Smaller venue. Gonna hit up the day parties this time at Cosmo.

KRUSHER - Ward 2

KRUSHER by TKO in 7th

And I'm gonna put even MORE money on the Russian. :shaq:

You didn't see a robbery, you saw a close, debatable fight where you didn't get your way.

Ward became better and better as the rounds went on, he figured Kovalev out. He adjusted. That's why he came out as the winner and not Kovalev. Ward knows more things well in the ring not just one. He can box he tried, it didn't work... then he turned it into a dogfight and then later he either fought super close to Kovalev or bothered him from the outside.

Kovalev on the other hand can't really adapt in new situations. He fights the same way every time, he has a little more cautious and a little more aggressive versions but it's the same. It's usually just so effective that it's not a problem, nobody forced him to adapt. Until the Ward fight.

Here's my theory about this: Eastern-European (Russian, Ukrainian, Kazakh, Uzbek) system teaches their student the fundamental and one style very well. But the flip side of the rigorous system they don't teach them to think, be more individual just to strictly follow the rules and what they was taught to. So it usually awards them with great fundamentals, they know how to properly throw any punch and etc... but they probably won't be able to really adopt to new situations when they need to. There can be exceptions of course, Loma might be that, we gotta see someone put him in a situation where he has to adapt first. I can't bring an example suddenly where a Russian/Ukrainian/Kazakh fighter successfully adjust his tactics mid fight and I barely can mention EE fighters with unorthodox styles.
I suspect that in the USA they leave to fighters a little more air to shape their style individually with the good and bad sides of that.

On a side note: I heard Russian and Ukrainian schools are basically the same but interestingly their fighters usually seem different, Ukrainians seem to have been taught to defend better somehow but Russians seems to be more effective offensively. There are exceptions here too of course but take a look.

on one side you have Loma, Wlad, Gvozdyk, Postol, Usyk

o other side you have Golovkin (well not Russian but that school), Kovalev, Beterbiev, Povetkin, Provodnikov, Gassiev...
 

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You didn't see a robbery, you saw a close, debatable fight where you didn't get your way.

Ward became better and better as the rounds went on, he figured Kovalev out. He adjusted. That's why he came out as the winner and not Kovalev. Ward knows more things well in the ring not just one. He can box he tried, it didn't work... then he turned it into a dogfight and then later he either fought super close to Kovalev or bothered him from the outside.

Kovalev on the other hand can't really adapt in new situations. He fights the same way every time, he has a little more cautious and a little more aggressive versions but it's the same. It's usually just so effective that it's not a problem, nobody forced him to adapt. Until the Ward fight.

Here's my theory about this: Eastern-European (Russian, Ukrainian, Kazakh, Uzbek) system teaches their student the fundamental and one style very well. But the flip side of the rigorous system they don't teach them to think, be more individual just to strictly follow the rules and what they was taught to. So it usually awards them with great fundamentals, they know how to properly throw any punch and etc... but they probably won't be able to really adopt to new situations when they need to. There can be exceptions of course, Loma might be that, we gotta see someone put him in a situation where he has to adapt first. I can't bring an example suddenly where a Russian/Ukrainian/Kazakh fighter successfully adjust his tactics mid fight and I barely can mention EE fighters with unorthodox styles.
I suspect that in the USA they leave to fighters a little more air to shape their style individually with the good and bad sides of that.

On a side note: I heard Russian and Ukrainian schools are basically the same but interestingly their fighters usually seem different, Ukrainians seem to have been taught to defend better somehow but Russians seems to be more effective offensively. There are exceptions here too of course but take a look.

on one side you have Loma, Wlad, Gvozdyk, Postol, Usyk

o other side you have Golovkin (well not Russian but that school), Kovalev, Beterbiev, Povetkin, Provodnikov, Gassiev...
I would add Vitali prime to being able to adjust his game like with Corrie Sanders etc. Ukrainians seem more defensively sound though and we are seeing the guys who were on the London Olympic team of Ukraine that swept the medals that year Usyk, Lomachenko, Gvodyk doing damage in the pro ranks. I think Lomachenko's dad was the head trainer of the team. I do think that Loma will go the furthest though.
On the flip side Beterbeast potentially the biggest threat and if he tightens up that D he will go very far
 

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You didn't see a robbery, you saw a close, debatable fight where you didn't get your way.

Ward became better and better as the rounds went on, he figured Kovalev out. He adjusted. That's why he came out as the winner and not Kovalev. Ward knows more things well in the ring not just one. He can box he tried, it didn't work... then he turned it into a dogfight and then later he either fought super close to Kovalev or bothered him from the outside.

Kovalev on the other hand can't really adapt in new situations. He fights the same way every time, he has a little more cautious and a little more aggressive versions but it's the same. It's usually just so effective that it's not a problem, nobody forced him to adapt. Until the Ward fight.

Here's my theory about this: Eastern-European (Russian, Ukrainian, Kazakh, Uzbek) system teaches their student the fundamental and one style very well. But the flip side of the rigorous system they don't teach them to think, be more individual just to strictly follow the rules and what they was taught to. So it usually awards them with great fundamentals, they know how to properly throw any punch and etc... but they probably won't be able to really adopt to new situations when they need to. There can be exceptions of course, Loma might be that, we gotta see someone put him in a situation where he has to adapt first. I can't bring an example suddenly where a Russian/Ukrainian/Kazakh fighter successfully adjust his tactics mid fight and I barely can mention EE fighters with unorthodox styles.
I suspect that in the USA they leave to fighters a little more air to shape their style individually with the good and bad sides of that.

On a side note: I heard Russian and Ukrainian schools are basically the same but interestingly their fighters usually seem different, Ukrainians seem to have been taught to defend better somehow but Russians seems to be more effective offensively. There are exceptions here too of course but take a look.

on one side you have Loma, Wlad, Gvozdyk, Postol, Usyk

o other side you have Golovkin (well not Russian but that school), Kovalev, Beterbiev, Povetkin, Provodnikov, Gassiev...

Naw bro, I saw a robbery. The chorus of boos myself and the overwhelming majority of the crowd rained down on that decision was very telling. And even Lampley agreed 3 American judges, in america, with an all American Olympic fighter in a close fight doesn't bode well for the Russian guy. Man, even the bookies acknowledged Wards true defeat. One of my bros bet Ward and the bookie told him he shouldn't have won. Even ran into ROC Nation prez Yormack and Dan Rafael of ESPN on the plane back and Yormack was stumbling for words trying defend his guy lmao. He knew the Son of Gifts lost but I get it. Your guy won so you have to defend him. I'd probably do the same if my guy got a b.s. win he didn't deserve cuz he was truly inferior. I get it. But now we wait for the rematch. Hopefully Ward doesn't retire like his air of invincibility did.
 

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I would add Vitali prime to being able to adjust his game like with Corrie Sanders etc. Ukrainians seem more defensively sound though and we are seeing the guys who were on the London Olympic team of Ukraine that swept the medals that year Usyk, Lomachenko, Gvodyk doing damage in the pro ranks. I think Lomachenko's dad was the head trainer of the team. I do think that Loma will go the furthest though.
On the flip side Beterbeast potentially the biggest threat and if he tightens up that D he will go very far

Salido out there coaching all these Ukrainian Olympians coming from Mexican gymnasiums. :dead:
 
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