Soccer = Skill and Technique (USA Needs to Understand This)

[Real]

God i'm glad the US for the most part don't give a fukk about soccer.

The bytching and arguing of their fans is unbearable

 

[JayGatsby]

please stop this argument...


NO, pure/raw athleticism will NOT make you a good footie player.
NO, Lebron would not make a good footie player because he is not conditioned for 90+ mins of running. There is a reason why soccer players are svelte.
NO, you could't just take some college kids playing basketball/football and have them in soccer, you have to condition them from jump to play soccer.

YES, being an athlete with skill and training COULD make you world class. As far as footie goes Ronaldo is Lebron, a total freak of nature.
YES, having height helps but only the usain bolts of the world have height and speed. Look at Per Mertesaker.


There is a reason why only people like Jim Thorpe, Bo Jackson and Deion ever played two sports with any sort of reasonable amount of success. Has nothing to do with being a good athlete, it has everything to do with being a master of skills. A Nuclear physicist and an Astrophysicist are both scientists but the skill sets are different and one more than like couldn't do the job of the other.

wait what makes you think lebron, a sporting athlete who trains daily,for the last 17+years isnt conditioned to run 90 mins .......

first since when do footballers run 90mins non stop?????

 

[King Jove]

how did african athleticism help nigeria here?

 

[MegaTronBomb!]

Majority who play in Africa have a shytty infrastructure. That's like playing HS ball at a small HS with no equipment as well as lacking a weightroom and then playing for Southlake Carroll in TX.

That's not what we're talking about tho breh... we're talking about the line of thinking that because blacks are inherently athletically superior to every other race= we will dominate at any sport, regardless of anything.

nikkas must've finished watching The Air Up There and figure, if it works for basketball....why not soccer

 

[JayGatsby]

as some1 said....pilro doesnt run for 90mins,but his positioning is excellent

 

[MegaTronBomb!]

Dude don't know what the fukk he talking about

There are the same nikkas who think that LeBron would be far better than Wayne Gretzky just based off the fact he's 6'8" 260, can run fast for his size, and jump high... because somehow, somewhat that's what makes a hockey player elite.

they don't even know if the nikka can ice skate, but will believe in their heart LeBron could be one of the best ever.

 

[Black Magisterialness]

Who the hell is talking about Lebron for now? We were saying take Lebron at 4 or 5 and start him on this shyt and see. Come on son, read. Ain't no one becoming a professional soccer play with limited time playing the sport. This ain't 7 footers and the NBA.

It's not just you, its this this notion that "just stick the kids who are natural athletes in the soccer programs and bam we are a world beater". Its much more complex than that, we need kids in COMPETITIVE U-16 leagues and lesser premierships, we need kids getting scouted by the bigger teams like Barca and Man U and Bayern. This is nothing new, we do it for all other sports in America from high school on...soccer should be no different if we want to win at it. Only thing is, is that we need to be willing to send these kids off to premierships to play other good kids from around the world.

 

[Lewis Black]

They have the most World Cup titles

But do they dominate every year? No

Look at the team now, not everyone black and not everyone is super athletic.

Brazilians are renowned for the skill and technique on the ball not their raw athleticism

and plus brazil have only ever had two real freak athletes ronaldo and pele.

 

[#1 pick]

That's not what we're talking about tho breh... we're talking about the line of thinking that because blacks are inherently athletically superior to every other race= we will dominate at any sport, regardless of anything.

nikkas must've finished watching The Air Up There and figure, if it works for basketball....why not soccer

You don't know how foolish you sound right now. There isn't an aspect of life where you can beat someone who is a master of their craft and you are just talented but aren't seasoned or well trained. Not one.

 

[#1 pick]

It's not just you, its this this notion that "just stick the kids who are natural athletes in the soccer programs and bam we are a world beater". Its much more complex than that, we need kids in COMPETITIVE U-16 leagues and lesser premierships, we need kids getting scouted by the bigger teams like Barca and Man U and Bayern. This is nothing new, we do it for all other sports in America from high school on...soccer should be no different if we want to win at it. Only thing is, is that we need to be willing to send these kids off to premierships to play other good kids from around the world.

Talent and ability. It's that simple. Everyone does it differently. Belgium likes both. Brazil likes both. Just get them in and decide from there.

 

[#1 pick]

But do they dominate every year? No

Look at the team now, not everyone black and not everyone is super athletic.

Brazilians are renowned for the skill and technique on the ball not their raw athleticism

and plus brazil have only ever had two real freak athletes ronaldo and pele.

Brazil is usually crazy athletic too. Ronaldo was a freak athlete. Prime Adriano athletic feats is world renowned. Roberto Carlos was a freak athlete. Neymar has freakish quickness and speed to go with his crazy skills like an Allen Iverson. You don't know what you are talking about.

 

[MegaTronBomb!]

African American athletes are typically heavier and stronger than those born and raised outside the US. It's the fact our foods are loaded with all sorts of shyt, and we start lifting weights at an early age.

You got HS kids in the US doing advanced plyometrics and olympic weight lifting programs, we end up being different from our brothers across the ocean because of it.

none of that matters tho breh.... dude tried to pose that blackleticism really would make THAT much of a difference.

sports where fundamentals and technical ability trump athleticism every single time ( soccer, baseball, hockey ) will constantly show that simply being a black with elite athleticism won't instantly make you dominant.... or even mediocre at the sport.

 

[Black Magisterialness]

wait what makes you think lebron, a sporting athlete who trains daily,for the last 17+years isnt conditioned to run 90 mins .......

first since when do footballers run 90mins non stop?????

look up the distance covered for an average mid fielder. Graham Zusi covered 6 kmh and he was taken out in the 72nd minute. The game went on for an extra 40 mins after that and certain guys like Dempsey, Bradley and the sort played the entire match. And Full Backs in particular in soccer race down the length of the pitch on almost every attack and get back if that attack fizzles out. That's about 60 to 70 yards up and down in fairly consistent fashion for the better part of 90 mins. Its grueling.

 

[JayGatsby]

look im not saying the US will the "soccer " world

but if you teach der athletic players technique it will breed great players in the future....

US can have the best of both worlds(both technical and athletic), spain only breed technical players,they dont breed athletic sportsman who are naturally muscled individuals


do you see what im gettin at

 

[Lewis Black]

Brazil is usually crazy athletic too. Ronaldo was a freak athlete. Roberto Carlos was a freak athlete. Neymar has freakish quickness and speed to go with his crazy skills like an Allen Iverson. You don't know what you are talking about.

Neymar and roberto carlos were good athletes with elite skills. But neymar is weak and roberto carlos could only use his left foot.



Ronaldo was 6'ft tall had speed, strength, could jump, use both feet, score from long distance, skillful He was freakishly good.

I don't think you know what you're talking about.