So you wanna know more about Leangains? Thats good man, that's reaaaaal goooddd....

[semtex]

Adding milk to whey slows the digestion. I ain't payin for two drums of goddamn protein

 

[diggy]

Adding milk to whey slows the digestion. I ain't payin for two drums of goddamn protein

thats why you need wheysein or cawhey

 

[Spliff]

thats why you need wheysein or cawhey

I'm makin the transition to Milk Protein Isolate after my casein tub is done.

Just ran outa whey too. Was close to buyin that Body Fortress at Walmart. fukk it. Bodybuildin on a budget

 

[semtex]

thats why you need wheysein or cawhey

Whole Milk+ whey powder= what I be drankin

 

[diggy]

Im going to beef protein isolate, carnivore because its proven 1221% more anabolic than steroids...lol

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@spliff and sem

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[Carolina Slim]

Went beast mode last night. Had a nikka ready for bed afterwards. Too bad I couldn't hit the gym earlier in the day since I ain't have my car.

 

[Roid Jones]

Say I work a regular 9-5 and hit the gym around 7pm, what should my time table look like? also what is the best bf% to be at before starting this.

 

[Spliff]

Say I work a regular 9-5 and hit the gym around 7pm, what should my time table look like? also what is the best bf% to be at before starting this.

Read his website...

Two pre-workout meals

This is the usual protocol for people with normal working hours.

Sample setup

12-1 PM or around lunch/noon: Meal one. Approximately 20-25% of daily total calorie intake.
4-5 PM: Pre-workout meal. Roughly equal to the first meal.
8-9 PM: Post-workout meal (largest meal).

The Leangains Guide | Intermittent fasting diet for fat loss, muscle gain and health

 

[Roid Jones]

Read his website...



The Leangains Guide | Intermittent fasting diet for fat loss, muscle gain and health

Thanks

 

[Carolina Slim]

Only problem I have with this style of eating is sitting here in my cube during lunchtime when everybody goes out and gets all this good smelling food and I'm having to wait until 2 or 3:00 to open my eating window. I'm about to go swimming in about 30 minutes, and that always gets my appetite up. I know I'm gonna be on some http://gifsoup.com/ when I get back to my desk...

 

[Roid Jones]

Only problem I have with this style of eating is sitting here in my cube during lunchtime when everybody goes out and gets all this good smelling food and I'm having to wait until 2 or 3:00 to open my eating window. I'm about to go swimming in about 30 minutes, and that always gets my appetite up. I know I'm gonna be on some http://gifsoup.com/ when I get back to my desk...

That I can handle, my thing is due to my working hours I will rearely train fasted, I know that you don't have too but I feel that is where this regime shines.

I understand this regime is not magic like any other calorie deficit regime, I just wish people would stop acting like, this and only this is the only way to cut.

 

[Carolina Slim]

That I can handle, my thing is due to my working hours I will rearely train fasted, I know that you don't have too but I feel that is where this regime shines.

I understand this regime is not magic like any other calorie deficit regime, I just wish people would stop acting like, this and only this is the only way to cut.

Word. It's the one that works best for me. I went swimming during lunch yesterday, and honestly, I probably could have gone a couple more hours of not eating. I had gotten a 4 egg scramble with sausage and bacon from the cafeteria earlier in the morning, so I took that out and microwaved it when I got back from the pool. That would have held me for the rest of the day, to be quite honest. I see all these people on other boards posting about how you have to get your calories up during the eating window, but I can't see how you have to FORCE yourself to eat if you just ain't hungry. I'm a little worried about the metabolism slowing down, but like I said, it's not like I'm starving myself, it's just that I'm not hungry.

 

[Roid Jones]

Word. It's the one that works best for me. I went swimming during lunch yesterday, and honestly, I probably could have gone a couple more hours of not eating. I had gotten a 4 egg scramble with sausage and bacon from the cafeteria earlier in the morning, so I took that out and microwaved it when I got back from the pool. That would have held me for the rest of the day, to be quite honest. I see all these people on other boards posting about how you have to get your calories up during the eating window, but I can't see how you have to FORCE yourself to eat if you just ain't hungry. I'm a little worried about the metabolism slowing down, but like I said, it's not like I'm starving myself, it's just that I'm not hungry.

I feel you.

 

[Carolina Slim]

I feel you.

Not concerned about it anymore broseph... Read this tight post on the subject, and since I'm trying to drop a good 50 lbs, I think this is right up my alley, especially with the lack of hunger aspect...

That is not too low if the diet is properly designed. There are many clinical studies run at much lower numbers, the so-called very low calorie diets (VLCD) which are generally set at 800 calories per day.

Too low is a function of protein and micronutrient requirements. If the body is getting sufficient protein, essential fats, trace minerals, and vitamins then that calorie range is sufficient since adipose tissue (fat) can contribute 31.4 calories of energy per pound of fat mass per day. If the OP has 100 lbs of fat mass, he can get 3,140 calories worth of energy from fat, which if supplemented by 1200-1500 calories from diet, puts him well over 4,000 calories of available energy. His near term dietary needs are driven entirely by the nutrients he needs that cannot get from stored fat, such as protein.

As for "starvation mode" that is entirely bro science. On a low calorie regimen your metabolic rate will drop, but not to zero. The rate of metabolic decline has been measured clinically at 23% for a cohort of obese women on an 800 calorie VLCD. In the famous (infamous?) Minnesota Starvation Experiment, the reduction was estimated at 45% as the men approached essential fat levels (think skin and bones / concentration camp survivor appearance). On a 1200-1500 calorie diet the rate would be something less than 20%. If, for example, the starting BMR was 2,000 then after a reduction of, say 15%, the new BMR would be 1,700 and the benefit of dieting would be the difference between calories in and 1,700, not calories in and 2,000.

However, you do need to keep the body in anabolic mode to punish the fat and promote muscle maintenance. That will force the body to get its calories from the stored fat mass and not by catabolizing muscle. Exercise that creates and maintains high skeltal muscle tension, such as lifting weights and HIIT, upregulates growth hormone production and keeps the body in anabolic mode. Tension is created by lifting HEAVY.

That is why you lift weights when trying to lose fat. Lifting is the same as any other cardio exercise when it comes to burning the fat itself (energy expenditure is energy expenditure), but the hormonal effects created by lifting cause the body to prefer destruction of fat over catabolization of muscle. HIIT causes similar hormonal effects and improves fat burning over aerobic cardio for a number of biochemical reasons; study up on anerobic / Cori cycle metabolic pathways versus aerobic / Krebs cycle pathways if you want to understand the details.

 

[MMS]

after reading abit

what ive been doing since october isnt that far off from IF i basically have fasted everyday considering i eat at specific times(convenience) at 11:30 and 6:00 which falls in the 16/8 time frame

i just dont vary any macros of the meal or focus them on workouts. Its just when i eat