So Will The Coli Stop Snubbing Swizz Beatz, Now That He Smoked Your Beloved Timbaland?

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Idk man i Just saw the beat battle and Swizz rocked em b4 that I thought timbo was better because Swizz is repititve af. im not really a fan of either like that. but recognize they both got talent and can bring heat here and there. The thing bout timbo is he’s more r&b and pop oriented and has good bangers every once in awhile but there all club bangers he would nvr be top tier to me in a hip hop perspective. He has talent and probably more musical knowledge but I think Swizz is the better hip hop producer. & I think timbos an underachiever wen it comes to hip hop probably because I fukk with Neptune’s heavy and always felt they were superior.

How exactly is Swizz a better Hip Hop producer though? I mean you pretty much narrowed Swizz down to three beats and there's Timbaland beats in Hip Hop that are more legendary than the three you named from Swizz.

And regardless of personal views, a Hip Hop producer is not going to challenge an "R&B/Pop producer to a battle". It doesn't make sense. Obviously, Swizz thinks highly enough of Timbaland as a Hip Hop producer to even offer a challenge.

The Neptunes I can see. But even with them, aside from The Clipse, they had trouble when it came to new artists where Timbaland was killing it with everybody from legends to marginally talented no names (to his detriment, but still they walked away with career highlights).
 
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How exactly is Swizz a better Hip Hop producer though? I mean you pretty much narrowed Swizz down to three beats and there's Timbaland beats in Hip Hop that are more legendary than the three you named from Swizz.

And regardless of personal views, a Hip Hop producer is not going to challenge an "R&B/Pop producer to a battle". It doesn't make sense. Obviously, Swizz thinks highly enough of Timbaland as a Hip Hop producer to even offer a challenge.

The Neptunes I can see. But even with them, aside from The Clipse, they had trouble when it came to new artists where Timbaland was killing it with everybody from legends to marginally talented no names (to his detriment, but still they walked away with career highlights).
I think Timbalands overrated he should def be better then what his discography looks like from a hip hop point of view. He can only produce club bangers his other shyt was nvr that good wen he tried. Put you on the game is probably my fave timbo beat.
 

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I think Timbalands overrated he should def be better then what his discography looks like from a hip hop point of view. He can only produce club bangers his other shyt was nvr that good wen he tried.
Breh, don't over exert yourself with these weirdos, this is the Coli after all. Some of these people we're speaking to probably haven't seen sunshine since 1998.
 

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I think Timbalands overrated he should def be better then what his discography looks like from a hip hop point of view. He can only produce club bangers his other shyt was nvr that good wen he tried.

Yeah, I gather you feel he's overrated. What I'm confused about is how is Swizz better if you're listing 3 beats as his best, with one as a probably, and all 3 are singles that are club bangers.
 

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Yeah, I gather you feel he's overrated. What I'm confused about is how is Swizz better if you're listing 3 beats as his best, with one as a probably, and all 3 are singles that are club bangers.
Look at the hype Timbaland gets he should be above that but in reality he’s not. He could have all the talent he wants but somehow he’s stuck on that level from a hip hop perspective. Neptune’s would wash timbo they got albums and can produce hits or whatever I can’t say the same for him.
 
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Look at the hype Timbaland gets he should be above that but in reality he’s not. He could have all the talent he wants but somehow he’s stuck on that level from a hip hop perspective. Neptune’s would wash timbo they got albums and can produce hits or whatever I can’t say the same for timbo.

Why does he get the hype though?

And it appears you're holding him to a higher standard because of the hype.

And still, how is Swizz better than Tim?

I'm just asking a simple questions for clarity. Not trying to change anyone's mind.
 

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Why does he get the hype though?

And it appears you're holding him to a higher standard because of the hype.

And still, how is Swizz better than Tim?

I'm just asking a simple questions for clarity. Not trying to change anyone's mind.
Because timbalands a underachiever wen it comes to hip hop. After seeing that beat battle he was pulling out pop hits.:mjlol: Then I realized Timbaland doesn’t really have anything else that I’ve ever heard that’s great on this hip hop shyt. Ruff Ryder’s anthem>>>>>>>
 

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Because timbalands a underachiever wen it comes to hip hop. After seeing that beat battle he was pulling out pop hits.:mjlol: Then I realized Timbaland doesn’t really have anything else that I’ve ever heard that’s great on this hip hop shyt. Ruff Ryder’s anthem>>>>>>>

for a beat battle it really boils down to showmanship and familiarity, especially if both are known for hits.

We can all agree Swizz is one hell of a hype man.

If Tim played some random shyt that could be argued is better production wise, but the crowd didn't know it, he'd lose to some basic shyt a crowd knew
 

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CACs talmbout Eve being better than Mobb Deep and Missy Elliot then have the nerve to point fingers talmbout Patti Labelle -- WTF? :mjlol:

I believe if you don't hold Mobb Deep in a high enough regard as a prerequisite to being a Coli member then you deserve to have your account deleted.:hhh::heh:


LOL

I mustve really got you in your feelings with that exposal.

2 homotional rants back-to-back.

this must be how drake felt when those reference tracks dropped.:heh:

and I didn't say Eve was better than mob deep. I said she dropped a better album in '99.
lol @ wack ass missy Elliot.
and SMH @ the bolded. youre definitely white, trying to fit in with group-think on a message board. grow your own opinions.
 
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LOL

I mustve really got you in your feelings with that exposal.

2 homotional rants back-to-back.

this must be how drake felt when those reference tracks dropped.:heh:
:dwillhuh:

This was 2 weeks ago, yet I'm the one in my "feelings"? :mjlol:


At least I got under your skin enough for you to think about me in your spare time.:umad:


:umad::umad::umad:
 

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I can’t see some shyt being outdated if I can still bump it 20 years later let alone 99. Havoc was better then Swizz at that time, theirs no way Swizz could ever produce a album like Murda Muzik. Flesh of my flesh was dope but that’s more because of dmx helping the beats and his energy. It would’ve been cool for Swizz to have 3-4 tracks on there but not the whole album. Not at all saying Swizz doesn’t have classic beats because he has some but he wouldnt touch havoc in that time or all time. Swizzs best beats are ruff Ryder’s anthem, good times and probably party up and that’s a single, (there’s a couple others) but it’s hard to even choose a best beat for havoc because he has so many not just that but classic albums. To each their own but there’s no way man.


outdated as in everything about that song you posted was already played out & behind the times.
 

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Idk man i Just saw the beat battle and Swizz rocked em b4 that I thought timbo was better because Swizz is repititve af. im not really a fan of either like that. but recognize they both got talent and can bring heat here and there. The thing bout timbo is he’s more r&b and pop oriented and has good bangers every once in awhile but there all club bangers he would nvr be top tier to me in a hip hop perspective. He has talent and probably more musical knowledge but I think Swizz is the better hip hop producer. & I think timbos an underachiever wen it comes to hip hop probably because I fukk with Neptune’s heavy and always felt they were superior.



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