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i think that is wildly exaggerated, the vast majority of black people and black elderly have proper ID, especially if they vote

if they dont have an ID its probably because they dont vote

:clap: This some real tinfoil sh*t here. Requiring ID to vote should be mandatory. Now electronic machines is another story, I don't agree with that. What I do think is there should be a way of confirming the vote. I would create a unique # for each vote, and then you could check online if your vote was tabulated correctly while still remaining anonymous.
 

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Quit bringing common sense into this thread. Most people here have never seen an elderly black person who's to old to work/driver and might forget to renew there ID.

I know right? Even just doing an analysis on this that skips the actual content of this issue... see who's pushing these new laws. The tea party types, the GOP types. Just figure out what their objective might be, especially given that there's almost no real voter fraud that actually occurs. See the long lines at Florida poll booths in 2012 and ask yourself if these guys truly have voters' best interests at heart
 

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I know right? Even just doing an analysis on this that skips the actual content of this issue... see who's pushing these new laws. The tea party types, the GOP types. Just figure out what their objective might be, especially given that there's almost no real voter fraud that actually occurs. See the long lines at Florida poll booths in 2012 and ask yourself if these guys truly have voters' best interests at heart

lol @ this over the top shyt

explain to me how a black person gets a job, opens up a bank account or gets on a plane without an ID, explain how you can develop and grow a community where people cant do those basic things? our priority is to make sure every black person has an ID its not to be the foot soldiers and pawns for political parties
 

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...just because i don't see a problem with it tracking license plates...

Why should i see a problem with them tracking license plates?
 

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You think it's okay to not let this 96 year old black woman vote? Because you're just imagining that hordes of non-citizens are voting?

96-Year-Old Black Woman Denied Voter ID in Tennessee

Strawman argument :skip: This is way different than the voter polls requiring you to pass a test. Yes, this one lady should have been handled with some common sense, but this is not the norm. I'd rather have this than a bunch of illegal Cubans voting for a Jeb Bush/Crist because they feel the Repugnant party cares for them :heh:
 

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well, if you're willing to take people to the DMV then get organized and get it done. don't just chill and allow laws to pass that mandate it without people having IDs

you have the right to vote regardless of whether you have a bank account. just cause you TWISM think it's not that important doesn't mean you can mass disenfranchise other citizens like this

A state ID/driver's license = automatic voter ID. You shouldn't need a separate voter ID on top of one of those two ID forms. Now if you don't have one of those two, yes, you have to and should go through a verification process.
 

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Strawman argument :skip: This is way different than the voter polls requiring you to pass a test. Yes, this one lady should have been handled with some common sense, but this is not the norm. I'd rather have this than a bunch of illegal Cubans voting for a Jeb Bush/Crist because they feel the Repugnant party cares for them :heh:

Breh there are literal masses of black citizens who don't have ID. There is not one recorded incidence of an illegal Cuban voting. You are playing right into the hands of people who want to suppress the black vote.
 

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Breh there are literal masses of black citizens who don't have ID. There is not one recorded incidence of an illegal Cuban voting. You are playing right into the hands of people who want to suppress the black vote.

Fear is a s.o.b. am i right? "what if mexicans start voting!!!" meanwhile NO REPORTED CASES of this ever happening...

Well fuk WHAT IF aliens have infiltrated the human population and they are voting DEMOCRAT. I say we require DNA testing prior to voting. I mean it could happen...:mjpls:
 

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I honestly would not have a problem with these type of Voter ID laws except for the fact that they are purposely being done to stomp out minority votes. Same thing Governor Rick Scott did here in Florida with the early voting and not having it on Sunday before election.

If we lived in a more fair and equal country, I would have no problem with it, but we don't. If the states that want to do this would be willing to do reachouts to the minority communities to help them pay and make it easier to get IDs, then I might consider it, but we know that's not the case.
 

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I honestly would not have a problem with these type of Voter ID laws except for the fact that they are purposely being done to stomp out minority votes. Same thing Governor Rick Scott did here in Florida with the early voting and not having it on Sunday before election.

If we lived in a more fair and equal country, I would have no problem with it, but we don't. If the states that want to do this would be willing to do reachouts to the minority communities to help them pay and make it easier to get IDs, then I might consider it, but we know that's not the case.

i dont support the laws either but its a pathetic tactic that doesnt me make lose sleep at night and i dont consider it to be a priority
 

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Breh there are literal masses of black citizens who don't have ID. There is not one recorded incidence of an illegal Cuban voting. You are playing right into the hands of people who want to suppress the black vote.

:what: Where? Masses? Nikka it's 2013. You need a driver's license/state ID/social security in order to go to college, get cable, open a bank account, etc etc. Even to take the f*ckin' greyhound bus you need to present ID. Unless there's 20 million undeclared black citizens living somewhere that I don't know about, I fail to see how this could be a regular occurrence of natural born American citizens not having ID.

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Please note the lady in this example actually had a state ID, but she was applying for a separate voter ID card. I don't agree with that. State ID = voter ID, the same way driver's license = state ID, you don't need to apply for a state ID as well if you already have a driver's license. They should do away with any regulations stipulating a separate voter ID card, that is a waste of federal/state money, time, and also is open to manipulation, that I agree with.
 
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