So where does the Republican party go from here?

[CrimsonTider]

Romney was fairly moderate....he just fit the bill of the old white male republican that ppl are turned off from.

We'll see...the exaggeration from both sides regarding so many stupid issues really turned me off this political cycle.

I just really hope we don't go down the same path as these in the red Western Euro countries.

We are already in the red.

And it's due mostly to the fact the guy you voted for in 00 & 04. Fought two wars on a credit cards and cut taxes with no plan on how to make up the loss of tax revenue.

If your hopes are that we don't become fiscally irresponsible why are you a replublican?

Clinton left office with a surplus in the Budget

 

[Trip]

We are already in the red.

And it's due mostly to the fact the guy you voted for in 00 & 04. Fought two wars on a credit cards and cut taxes with no plan on how to make up the loss of tax revenue.

If your hopes are that we don't become fiscally irresponsible why are you a replublican?

Clinton left office with a surplus in the Budget

well you are assuming a lot about someone you don't know in this post. I was too young to vote in 2000 and didnt vote in 2004 and Im registered democrat

to be honest though...its time to stop talking about George Bush

 

[Danie84]

Go back in a time machine to their GAWD' Regan era

 

[CrimsonTider]

well you are assuming a lot about someone you don't know in this post. I was too young to vote in 2000 and didnt vote in 2004.

to be honest though...its time to stop talking about George Bush

Well, the person you would have voted for. Is that fair?

George Budh is 100% relevant to your post that I replied too.

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

Well, the person you would have voted for. Is that fair?

George Budh is 100% relevant to your post that I replied too.

Bush did hand Obama a mess, but there are things Obama did in handling it that no rational person can argue for.

Blocking mortgage writedowns
Sitting still on civil liberties issues
Towing a harder line on pot (rather than opening up on it!)
Drone wars
NDAA
The combo of "build the country from the middle" after 4 years of a comically top heavy recovery

This is all shyt that has happened under Obama's watch and has nothing to do w/Bush. Why don't we talk about that

 

[VerbalIntercourse]

I was part of a republican team that won yesterday, and the candidate won in a heavily democrat represented area.

I have some thoughts about why he/she won.

1) The candidate is a fiscal conservative but definitely social moderate. However, he/she believes in some very core conservative social issues like the second amendment. So he was able to keep the core conservatives, but didn't scare away the democrats.

2)He/she isn't a white guy, and I think that made a world of difference. There are just too many non-whites in his district. during the primary, all the white republicans lost.

3) we ran a good. clean and disciplined campaign, and I think people appreciate that. We also worked really hard, so hopefully that also made a difference.

I think people in the blue areas won't vote republican because of that "old white guy" image, and the fact that they just don't feel comfortable with the "backwards" social stances of the typical Mid-western repub. The religious right may have been an asset before, but I don't think that catering to them is going to work anymore. I don't think gay bashing or pressing the anti-weed issue is going to help the Repubs either.

And the Repubs are going to have to start bringing in the libertarians. They got third place in most of the areas that I looked at, and they got third place in the battleground states. The candidate that I worked for was endorsed by the Repubs and the libertarians. They made an alliance to help him/her. I think that definitely helped. In all these close elections, The Repubs can't afford lose 1 to 2% of the vote.

 

[Danie84]

at the bish Romney for making me miss 's VICTORY SPEECH, because he refuse to LOOSE gracefully.

It's OKAY, now have two historical recorded VICTORY SPEECHES that will be replay forever and ever.

 

[Jello Biafra]

I was part of a republican team that won yesterday, and the candidate won in a heavily democrat represented area.

I have some thoughts about why he/she won.

1) The candidate is a fiscal conservative but definitely social moderate. However, he/she believes in some very core conservative social issues like the second amendment.

2)He/she isn't a white guy, and I think that made a world of difference. There are just too many non-whites in his district. during the primary, all the white republicans lost.

3) we ran a good. clean and disciplined campaign, and I think people appreciate that. We also worked really hard, so hopefully that also made a difference.

I think people in the blue areas won't vote republican because of that "old white guy" image, and the fact that they just don't feel comfortable with the "backwards" social stances of the typical Mid-western repub.

The religious right may have been an asset before, but I don't think that catering to them is going to work anymore. I don't think gay bashing or pressing the anti-weed issue is going to help the Repubs either.

And the Repubs are going to have to start bringing in the libertarians. They got third place in most of the areas that I looked at, and they got third place in the battleground states. The candidate that I worked for was endorsed by the Repubs and the libertarians. They made an alliance to help him. I think that definitely helped. In all these close elections, The Repubs can't afford lose 1 to 2% of the vote.

Refocusing the GOP as being a party that is fiscally conservative but moderate on social issues while also doing outreach to minority voters (specifically Hispanics because black voters are going to be a harder sell) is the only formula the Republicans have that can help them in national elections.
Appearing so intolerant and sometimes hateful when it comes to social issues just makes the party distasteful for voters who may agree with them on fiscal issues but are not rabid social conservatives.

 

[CrimsonTider]

Bush did hand Obama a mess, but there are things Obama did in handling it that no rational person can argue for.

Blocking mortgage writedowns
Sitting still on civil liberties issues
Towing a harder line on pot (rather than opening up on it!)
Drone wars
NDAA
The combo of "build the country from the middle" after 4 years of a comically top heavy recovery

This is all shyt that has happened under Obama's watch and has nothing to do w/Bush. Why don't we talk about that

has anyone said that Obama has been perfect?

There have been plenty of Obama supporters that have been very critical of him.

But, to answer your question. This stuff doesn't get brought up because the opposition much rather attack him by being racist, fear mongers

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

has anyone said that Obama has been perfect?

There have been plenty of Obama supporters that have been very critical of him.

But, to answer your question. This stuff doesn't get brought up because the opposition much rather attack him by being racist, fear mongers

Where did I say anyone claimed Obama to be perfect?

All I'm saying is to me the bad outweighs the good. What has Obama done for you in the last 4 years

 

[Julius Skrrvin]

I think people in the blue areas won't vote republican because of that "old white guy" image, and the fact that they just don't feel comfortable with the "backwards" social stances of the typical Mid-western repub. The religious right may have been an asset before, but I don't think that catering to them is going to work anymore. I don't think gay bashing or pressing the anti-weed issue is going to help the Repubs either.

And the Repubs are going to have to start bringing in the libertarians. They got third place in most of the areas that I looked at, and they got third place in the battleground states. The candidate that I worked for was endorsed by the Repubs and the libertarians. They made an alliance to help him/her. I think that definitely helped. In all these close elections, The Repubs can't afford lose 1 to 2% of the vote.

Yep, this is essential to be honest. Quite a few of the conservatives my age (18-25) lean toward libertarianism more than what the GOP has on the table.

 

[Trip]

Well, the person you would have voted for. Is that fair?

George Budh is 100% relevant to your post that I replied too.

am I allowed to use hindsight?

 

[unit321]

Will they finally stop living in the past and start adapting to modern times and beliefs? If so, who's going to lead them in that direction?

It seems like they're firmly entrenched with their views and it's going to take a LONG time for them to change direction.

What's everybody's view on this?

Not everyone agrees with "liberal" beliefs. If that was the case, everyone in Congress would be a Democrat.
There are a lot of people who don't ascribe to politically liberal views. If you looked at the results of the presidential election, you can see that Obama did not win every state. And in some of the states that Obama won, the votes were close, meaning almost less than half are not inline with the Democrats.

What's going to happen, which has happened in the past, is that those who are fed up with the Democratic Party's actions will vote in Republican senators and Congressman. There is no electoral college mish mosh. People vote directly for a senator or House of Representative. So, Congress is going to be able to block legislation that is pro-liberal when they can before it even gets to the President's desk.

 

[mastermind]

This doesn't make sense. The Republicans had 4 years to come up with a sound strategy and the best they could do is what you just said... Count on negativity against the incumbent for a win. It's not gonna work. They need to change their strategy, move away from the religious nutjobs and embrace the center.

A moderate candidate from the right could've won this election.

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pretty much

in fact if a Romney attached himself to immigration reform, something Obama didnt do a great job of the last 4 years, he would have won this election as the Latino votes would have looked closer to 50/50 than the absurd number it is now.

 

[CrimsonTider]

Where did I say anyone claimed Obama to be perfect?

All I'm saying is to me the bad outweighs the good. What has Obama done for you in the last 4 years

Middle income taxes are the lowest they have been for 30 years

Can stay on my parents health insurance until 26

8,000 dollar tax refund for the purchase of a home.

Credit card companies can longer raise rates on existing balances

No more overdrafts on debit cards

Student loan repayment is based on income and debt can be forgiven if 10% of your discretionary income goes to repayment for 20 years.


That's just the small sample, bruh