So We Really Gotta Get A 5th String QB Huh....2023 49ers Offseason Thread

[Rekkapryde]

Been saying this the whole time @jwonder

 

[Mike Wins]

definitely wouldn't mind taking Hooker.

But don't we have to replace McGlinchey first?

We might need to find a way keep McGlinchey

Not seeing a better option in free agency and starting a rookie tackle drafted outside the first round a scary thought especially in this system

 

[Rekkapryde]

We might need to find a way keep McGlinchey

Not seeing a better option in free agency and starting a rookie tackle drafted outside the first round a scary thought especially in this system

Better not pay a premium then. He's not that good.

 

[Mike Wins]

Dudes just tired of seeing QBs hurt and get mad at the result. Same dudes who complain about Kyle being to conservative complain about him dialing up a deep shot. Nevermind if Purdy throw that pass on time or step up in the pocket on that play he don't get touched

 

[Rekkapryde]

Dudes just tired of seeing QBs hurt and get mad at the result. Same dudes who complain about Kyle being to conservative complain about him dialing up a deep shot. Nevermind if Purdy throw that pass on time or step up in the pocket on that play he don't get touched

You don't have Taysom Hill blocking Nick Bosa. That's the equivalent of what got Brock Hurt.

 

[Mike Wins]

Who blocks him then? He was lined up on the TE outside shoulder and the RT was occupied by another pass rusher. If the defense line up that way the QB either need to check out of the play or be aware of the mismatch

The coach don't see the defensive alignment when they call the play in

 

[Dat916nigga]

Who blocks him then? He was lined up on the TE outside shoulder and the RT was occupied by another pass rusher. If the defense line up that way the QB either need to check out of the play or be aware of the mismatch

The coach don't see the defensive alignment when they call the play in

Thank you

Philly was out there running 5 and 6 man fronts. When that happens, their DEs are sometimes gonna get blocked by a FB or a TE. Specifically on a playaction play

It just so happened that the result of that play was the worst case scenario. I get the frustration cuz it’s easy to point out, but these type of playaction plays happen all the time. We just normally don’t notice who’s blocking who because the QB rarely ends up with a broken elbow

 

[Dat916nigga]

Fangio ain’t coming here

@FaTaL gets his wish

 

[King Kreole]

You gotta realize Trey wasnt running against Power 5 schools.

Some of it is having a feel for when to run. Trey is much faster than Purdy, but Purdy had a better feel on when to run.

Think about it like when you playing Madden. Just taking off and running every time you not gonna get the same kinda yards. However, you know on certain plays vs certain coverages you'll have better rush lanes. Trey still hasnt figured that out yet and that comes with time.

Yep, this is my take, the level of competition at NDSU inflated Trey's rushing capabilities and Kyle might have bought a lemon. When it comes to rushing lanes, the QB draws are supposed to make the rushing decisions simpler, he wasn't even being asked to do complex RPOs yet. If he can't do QB draws then he can't really do any rushing.

Basically, do like the Bills do with Josh Allen. Let him run a traditional offense first so he can figure out what he can and cant get away with. Then start adding those designed runs.

Fields wasnt much of a runner in college, but now he's got a better feel for when he can use his speed.

The way Shanahan is using Trey rushing is pretty much identical to the way Buffalo used Josh Allen rushing in his rookie year. I think Trey is only averaging like 2 more rushes a game at the same point in his career as Josh, which makes sense given how much more rushing Trey did in college than Josh. Buffalo actually increased Josh's rushing totals during the back half of his rookie career, so if we follow that plan then Kyle should be rushing Trey more next year. Using a mobile QB's legs is designed to slow the game down for the QB and let them get comfortable in the offense. People seem to want Kyle to use the Brock playbook and get rid of the designed runs, which is going to be a tougher system for a QB who had 1/3 of his production come from rushing in college.

 

[jwonder]

Been saying this the whole time @jwonder

Yeah it's ridiculous. He ran a pro offense in college. I'm sure he is more than capable of running this offense.

If you look at the Texans game. First half he looked like shyt. Second half Shanny ran it normal and I could see he had it. Shanny is a moron.

 

[jwonder]

Lose power? The fukk?

He's from the PAC 12 you can't expect much

 

[jwonder]

Fangio to the Dolphins. They are going to be scary

 

[Mike Wins]

Thank you

Philly was out there running 5 and 6 man fronts. When that happens, their DEs are sometimes gonna get blocked by a FB or a TE. Specifically on a playaction play

It just so happened that the result of that play was the worst case scenario. I get the frustration cuz it’s easy to point out, but these type of playaction plays happen all the time. We just normally don’t notice who’s blocking who because the QB rarely ends up with a broken elbow

Trying to understand the other side. Like, they ain't design the play to get Kroft matched up on Reddikk. You call the play in the huddle, you don't know how the defense gonna line up. You don't get to choose what coverage or pressure scheme the defense gonna run

Any play where the tackle is covered and the edge is way out wide of the TE you got three realistic options. TE block him, RB block him or you leave him unblocked and get it out quick. And the design worked. Reddikk beat Kroft but had to go so far outside to do it the ball should've been out before he got there. Play is designed for Purdy to rip it soon as he hit the back of his drop. Or, the primary ain't open, you got to climb in the pocket knowing the pressure from the right was coming from way outside. But primary was wide open he just held the ball a second too long

 

[jwonder]

We might need to find a way keep McGlinchey

Not seeing a better option in free agency and starting a rookie tackle drafted outside the first round a scary thought especially in this system

I doubt it. They always find gold no matter the position. Let that bum walk

 

[Dat916nigga]

Yep, this is my take, the level of competition at NDSU inflated Trey's rushing capabilities and Kyle might have bought a lemon. When it comes to rushing lanes, the QB draws are supposed to make the rushing decisions simpler, he wasn't even being asked to do complex RPOs yet. If he can't do QB draws then he can't really do any rushing.


The way Shanahan is using Trey rushing is pretty much identical to the way Buffalo used Josh Allen rushing in his rookie year. I think Trey is only averaging like 2 more rushes a game at the same point in his career as Josh, which makes sense given how much more rushing Trey did in college than Josh. Buffalo actually increased Josh's rushing totals during the back half of his rookie career, so if we follow that plan then Kyle should be rushing Trey more next year. Using a mobile QB's legs is designed to slow the game down for the QB and let them get comfortable in the offense. People seem to want Kyle to use the Brock playbook and get rid of the designed runs, which is going to be a tougher system for a QB who had 1/3 of his production come from rushing in college.

That and Trey’s gotta show that he can consistently hit the “layup” throws. In a very small sample size, his career completion percentage is at 55%

That ain’t gonna cut it