So we gonna act like UFOs aint zoomin in / out the atmosphere?

[Professor Emeritus]

Why are you posting a nonsense article from 1997? It's 2021. We're dealing with what they're telling us TODAY.

Wait, you're saying that the fact that the CIA admitted lying to the American public when their top-secret spy planes caused UFO sightings, and claiming that they had no planes in the air at the time when they damn well knew the people had seen their planes, is irrelevant to your claim that the US government wouldn't lie to us about whether or not their own technology was involved?

"Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again!”

And you keep ignoring that "what they're telling us today" is basically NOTHING. The government themselves have revealed nothing meaningful at all. Random UFO buffs, some of them former officials but now getting financial benefits from To The Stars, have made claims. The actual government hasn't said anything worthwhile at all.

This has been covered. There are 'factions' within the DoD that have varying opinions on the UAP/UFO phenomenon. I'm not going to go down the speculation rabbit hole on that topic, but over the past 3-4 years there has clearly been a concerted effort towards disclosure. It's obvious that this is a coordinated event. It took Congress applying pressure to the DoD to get the ball rolling. President Obama may very well have played a role in facilitating that process.

Strange how your timeline coincides exactly with the publicity campaign from To The Stars.

You can't claim that Obama knows all sorts of shyt definitively and has disclosed that definitively and then claim that people in the DoD are of "varying opinions". Is there proof or not? Elizondo said the DoD wasn't taking it seriously at all, but you want us to believe that Obama had proof....and what, he didn't show that proof to his own military? Or his military didn't believe him? Where the fukk would Obama even have gotten this supposed "proof" if not from the DoD?

Literally everything that has happened lines up with our version of events - that there were some videos floating around that most people treated as a non-serious novelty. That's all you got. No one was taking it seriously to any meaningful degree except when Harry Reid gave that $22 million kickback to his rich friend in Nevada and Luis Elizondo decided to parlay that bushed investigation with zero meaningful results into a nice TV/media grift with Blink-182.

 

[KillerB88]

Wait, you're saying that the fact that the CIA admitted lying to the American public when their top-secret spy planes caused UFO sightings, and claiming that they had no planes in the air at the time when they damn well knew the people had seen their planes, is irrelevant to your claim that the US government wouldn't lie to us about whether or not their own technology was involved?

"Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again!”

And you keep ignoring that "what they're telling us today" is basically NOTHING. The government themselves have revealed nothing meaningful at all. Random UFO buffs, some of them former officials but now getting financial benefits from To The Stars, have made claims. The actual government hasn't said anything worthwhile at all.




Strange how your timeline coincides exactly with the publicity campaign from To The Stars.

You can't claim that Obama knows all sorts of shyt definitively and has disclosed that definitively and then claim that people in the DoD are of "varying opinions". Is there proof or not? Elizondo said the DoD wasn't taking it seriously at all, but you want us to believe that Obama had proof....and what, he didn't show that proof to his own military? Or his military didn't believe him? Where the fukk would Obama even have gotten this supposed "proof" if not from the DoD?

Literally everything that has happened lines up with our version of events - that there were some videos floating around that most people treated as a non-serious novelty. That's all you got. No one was taking it seriously to any meaningful degree except when Harry Reid gave that $22 million kickback to his rich friend in Nevada and Luis Elizondo decided to parlay that bushed investigation with zero meaningful results into a nice TV/media grift with Blink-182.

The Senator has a degree in Mechanical Engineering.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

The Senator has a degree in Mechanical Engineering.

He's literally never worked in any relevant field in his life. He got a college degree and then started working in NGOs and politics. He just studied mechanical engineering not even aeronautics or aerospace, he never worked in aerospace, has done literally nothing relevant to the subject in his life at all.

Y'all make the most ridiculous "Argument from Authority". You want every guy with a degree to be an indisputable authority on the subject unless they disagree with you, in which case they know nothing.

All "the senator" said in that entire clip was that he heard the same pilot reports and saw the same videos that we saw. So why the fukk does some 26-year-old degree that he never used in real life have any relevance at all?

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Also @El Negro Suave, does it bother you that you claim to know definitively that our DoD knows all this shyt, but then this senator on the Intel Committee can admit that he knows pretty much nothing? That he just recently heard the pilots and saw the videos and knew nothing of aliens before that? If even senators on the intel committee don't know jack shyt about aliens, are you willing to back off your certainty for a moment and consider that perhaps our government has far less "alien evidence" than you think they do?

 

[KillerB88]

He's literally never worked in any relevant field in his life. He got a college degree and then started working in NGOs and politics. He just studied mechanical engineering not even aeronautics or aerospace, he never worked in aerospace, has done literally nothing relevant to the subject in his life at all.

Y'all make the most ridiculous "Argument from Authority". You want every guy with a degree to be an indisputable authority on the subject unless they disagree with you, in which case they know nothing.

All "the senator" said in that entire clip was that he heard the same pilot reports and saw the same videos that we saw. So why the fukk does some 26-year-old degree that he never used in real life have any relevance at all? I have a degree in physics and interned with NASA, my wife is an aerospace engineer who helped design jets for a major defense contractor for nearly a decade, we both have far more relevant knowledge than the senator has. The VAST majority of people with relevant knowledge laugh at y'all. But you want to make this random senator into a expert witness because he got a basic-ass degree over two decades ago and then watched the same videos we saw.

No. The senator said he's seen footage of these vehicles violating our known laws of physics. He's on the Intelligence Committee. So you can bet he's privy to some of the classified material that hasn't been leaked/released to the public. And now you're trying to talk down his degree? The man has his name and resume behind him. You won't shut up about your 'BioPhysics' degree and how you supposedly interned with NASA. nikka we don't know you. No one can confirm any of the alleged details of your life. But we're supposed to ignore Top Gun pilots, a former US President, the former Democratic Whip, two senators on the Intelligence Committee, the former Deputy Asst. Sec. of National Intelligence, and a DoD Senior Intelligence Officer?

 

[KillerB88]

https://fox2now.com/news/national/w...lly-investigating-the-aguadilla-ufo-incident/

 

[Professor Emeritus]

https://fox2now.com/news/national/w...lly-investigating-the-aguadilla-ufo-incident/

That dot is even lamer than the previous dots and George Knapp wrote that fukking story breh.

It was a pair of Chinese sky lanterns that are clearly is being blown in a linear path the entire time. It's the exact size and heat signature of two connected lanterns and its moving at exactly the prevalent wind speed. It only "disappears" because it's so small that it's only a few pixels across and the image compression program is eliminating those pixels at times. There is absolutely nothing in that entire video that looks the slightest bit like controlled flight or a meaningful craft of any size.

http://www.ipaco.fr/EN_IFO_B_heart_130425.pdf

Aguadilla Infrared Footage of 'UFOs' - Probably Hot Air Wedding Lanterns

http://www.astronomyufo.com/UFO/SUNlite7_6.pdf





And once AGAIN the entire backstory of that "investigation" contradicts your previous claims. They say the government won't take them seriously and doesn't pay attention to UFO reports. But you're trying to claim the government has incontrovertible proof of alien contact. So which is it? They can't both be true.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

No. The senator said he's seen footage of these vehicles violating our known laws of physics. He's on the Intelligence Committee. So you can bet he's privy to some of the classififed material that hasn't been leaked/released to the public. And now you're trying to talk down his degree? The man has his name and resume behind him.

He saw the exact same videos we did. You can't claim you take his words seriously and then claim he's not telling the truth and just make up shyt. He said nothing about classified material, and he made quite clear that he knows nothing other than those videos and the pilot claims. He has the exact same information as the rest of us. And he made zero claims about knowledge of aliens.

And his "resume" has NOTHING to do with it. His entire career has been spent working for charities and in politics. He's never worked a relevant field in his life.

But we're supposed to ignore Top Gun pilots, a former US President, the former Democratic Whip, two senators on the Intelligence Committee, the former Deputy Asst. Sec. of National Intelligence, and a DoD Senior Intelligence Officer?

Once again, you can't argue against any of my cases logically, you just constantly revert back to your argument from authority. While ignoring the fact that the vast majority of authorities are against you. Why can you quote a few politicians/officers as if they're great authorities and ignore that the VAST majority of politicians and military brass have totally dismissed this shyt for decades?

And even of the people you just listed, outside of the ones who are getting paid by To The Stars, literally NONE of those people have said they have proof of aliens or have said they have any evidence outside of what we've already seen.

If you think disclosure is imminent, then why are you attacking me so hard? Why not just wait for disclosure? Or are you afraid that disclosure isn't going to live up to everything you hoped it would be?

 

[KillerB88]

He saw the exact same videos we did. You can't claim you take his words seriously and then claim he's not telling the truth and just make up shyt. He said nothing about classified material, and he made quite clear that he knows nothing other than those videos and the pilot claims. He has the exact same information as the rest of us. And he made zero claims about knowledge of aliens.

And his "resume" has NOTHING to do with it. His entire career has been spent working for charities and in politics. He's never worked a relevant field in his life.




That's because YOU keep attacking my personal motivations and can't shut up about these arguments from authority. When the discussion started I kept it focused on logical arguments and clear explanations. But every time I put forth a logical argument, you want to ignore that and say, "I'm not going to listen, just look at their credentials!" You can't claim you care about credentials and then ignore credentials.

And people here know I've always talked about physics on here, there's plenty of shyt I posted that makes my background clear. But even if you don't believe me, why do you ignore the credentials of the millions of other scientists around the world? If you were right about aliens, it would be the #1 research priority in every field. Yet all of them are ignoring it. Why? Why don't their credentials count?




Once again, you can't argue against any of my cases logically, you just constantly revert back to your argument from authority. While ignoring the fact that the vast majority of authorities are against you. Why can you quote a few politicians/officers as if they're great authorities and ignore that the VAST majority of politicians and military brass have totally dismissed this shyt for decades?

And even of the people you just listed, outside of the ones who are getting paid by To The Stars, literally NONE of those people have said they have proof of aliens or have said they have any evidence outside of what we've already seen.

If you think disclosure is imminent, then why are you attacking me so hard? Why not just wait for disclosure? Or are you afraid that disclosure isn't going to live up to everything you hoped it would be?

I don’t need to argue ‘against’ you. You’re just some guy on the internet. This is fun for me. I’m arguing I favor of the notion that these are otherworldly vehicles based on the information provided by credible first-hand sources and officials including a former US President.

 

[KillerB88]

That dot is even lamer than the previous dots and George Knapp wrote that fukking story breh.

It was a pair of Chinese sky lanterns that are clearly is being blown in a linear path the entire time. It's the exact size and heat signature of two connected lanterns and its moving at exactly the prevalent wind speed. It only "disappears" because it's so small that it's only a few pixels across and the image compression program is eliminating those pixels at times. There is absolutely nothing in that entire video that looks the slightest bit like controlled flight or a meaningful craft of any size.

http://www.ipaco.fr/EN_IFO_B_heart_130425.pdf

Aguadilla Infrared Footage of 'UFOs' - Probably Hot Air Wedding Lanterns

http://www.astronomyufo.com/UFO/SUNlite7_6.pdf





And once AGAIN the entire backstory of that "investigation" contradicts your previous claims. They say the government won't take them seriously and doesn't pay attention to UFO reports. But you're trying to claim the government has incontrovertible proof of alien contact. So which is it? They can't both be true.

You can keep posting walls of text and goofy links. The article already debunks the nonsensical Chinese lantern narrative. It literally flew into the ocean and out again before splitting into two and flying off again. A lantern doesn’t do that. There’s more of your agenda showing.

 

[T.H.E. Goat]

Saw either a UFO or a satellite a few nights ago now I'm seeing this thread

 

[Dzali OG]

I think we may have one of those alien hybrids in this very thread @Rhakim?

Breh...what are you doing? Who do you work for lol? What do yall want with our planet ?

You're going very hard with rather INSULTING points. When asked what do you think people are seeing, you replied with a classic tactic positions of authority use: don't believe your own eyes. You're not intelligent enough to know what you're looking at, I'm white and I say so.

The arrogance to tell another human being...that they don't know what they're seeing.

Then...if I get you correctly...you're suggesting that this CIVILIAN guy is behind all this talk of aliens and ufos? A guy who put a few millions toward the subject? A guy who's been around what....20 years? Do you know how far back alien and UFO discussion go?

Now I've been handling this lightly because I'm on my phone and don't feel like dropping real info. I go back almost 30 years in this subject. I will ridicule and destroy this BULLshyt you're posting if I get on my laptop.

Just lemme know...

 

[DetroitEWarren]

nikkas gotta think, if only 1% of stars contained life that would still mean life is everywhere.


That would still be millions of species that's intelligent, most of them are probably still asking questions about a higher power.

I honestly don't think any intelligent life forms have conquered death, and has any real knowledge of our higher power. Everything here, no matter how advanced, maybe they can even transfer their consciousness to a computer.

But I don't think any life form will be aware of who or what our higher power, outside of our universe perspective, really is

 

[Gangstar8]

@Rhakim is a troll man you all need to stop taking this clown seriously

 

[Dzali OG]

nikkas gotta think, if only 1% of stars contained life that would still mean life is everywhere.


That would still be millions of species that's intelligent, most of them are probably still asking questions about a higher power.

I honestly don't think any intelligent life forms have conquered death, and has any real knowledge of our higher power. Everything here, no matter how advanced, maybe they can even transfer their consciousness to a computer.

But I don't think any life form will be aware of who or what our higher power, outside of our universe perspective, really is

But it really isn't that difficult to conquer death. Once you know what causes it. And science been found the talimeers(sp) at the ends of our chromosomes.

Then there's the radiation from our sun. Which has been found why some beings choose to live beneath the surface. It's been found that the aging process is drastically different underground. That even time is different. In some circles it's being suggested that time is a type of radiation. That's being intentionally imposed on us to...hinder us.

Our scientist say they will conquer death by 2050. As black men we dismiss this because being honest...we don't want to hear cacs say this!

Another way is thru transhumanism.