So we gonna act like UFOs aint zoomin in / out the atmosphere?

[KillerB88]

There's no one general answer to that, but I think in 90% of cases they're seeing human-made craft (satellites, jets) or even smaller objects (drones, weather balloons, flares) that they are either unfamiliar with or that they are seeing in unfamiliar conditions which distort their impression of the event. In many cases their impressions are specifically distorted cause they're primed to see something due to other recent reports in their community and/or news coverage.

If you look at some of our past discussions of particular UFO events, you'll see that there's specific cases where space junk falling back to Earth or formations of jets running military exercises and dropping parachuted flares were clearly responsible. In many of the military cases it looks likely that oddly-shaped drones from foreign countries observing our military exercises are the most likely explanation.

Drones speeding @ 13K MPH, accelerating @ 600-700g, with no visible propulsion, making 90 degree turns on a dime? And you're suggesting China or Russia has had this technology since 2004? China couldn't even safely recover their rockets just a few days ago, but they have society altering power sources and propulsion systems. Listen to yourself.

 

[TRUEST]

Drones speeding @ 13K MPH, accelerating @ 600-700g, with no visible propulsion, making 90 degree turns on a dime? And you're suggesting China or Russia has had this technology since 2004? China couldn't even safely recover their rockets just a few days ago, but they have society altering power sources and propulsion systems. Listen to yourself.

Great point. But to not get our hopes up, I still think it’s the US military fuccking around.

The idea of some supremely advanced entity from outta space playing hide and seek with humans is comical.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Drones speeding @ 13K MPH, accelerating @ 600-700g, with no visible propulsion, making 90 degree turns on a dime? And you're suggesting China or Russia has had this technology since 2004? China couldn't even safely recover their rockets just a few days ago, but they have society altering power sources and propulsion systems. Listen to yourself.

Give an example of any of those things proven? Because I see people quote those #'s but I haven't seen the evidence of any of that shyt.

And according to a lot of y'all the aliens have all these society-altering systems yet somehow can't recover their own shyt either.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Great point. But to not get our hopes up, I still think it’s the US military fuccking around.

The idea of some supremely advanced entity from outta space playing hide and seek with humans is comical.

Especially the idea that they are specifically snooping around American military exercises, as if they give a fukk what tiny incremental technological advances the US military is making year-to-year when they're supposedly 1000 years ahead of us.

Also the idea that all their systems are 1000 years ahead of ours....except for the apparent inability to have developed basic-ass stealth technology that we already have.

 

[DaddyFresh]

There's no one general answer to that, but I think in 90% of cases they're seeing human-made craft (satellites, jets) or even smaller objects (drones, weather balloons, flares) that they are either unfamiliar with or that they are seeing in unfamiliar conditions which distort their impression of the event. In many cases their impressions are specifically distorted cause they're primed to see something due to other recent reports in their community and/or news coverage.

If you look at some of our past discussions of particular UFO events, you'll see that there's specific cases where space junk falling back to Earth or formations of jets running military exercises and dropping parachuted flares were clearly responsible. In many of the military cases it looks likely that oddly-shaped drones from foreign countries observing our military exercises are the most likely explanation.

This. While aliens could be real the most probable answer is usually the correct one. Occam’s razor. Given how advanced public tech is classified shyt being this advance is more probable then aliens.

 

[KillerB88]

Great point. But to not get our hopes up, I still think it’s the US military fuccking around.

The idea of some supremely advanced entity from outta space playing hide and seek with humans is comical.

They've explicitly told us it's not them or any other superpower. Why continue to cling to this notion?

 

[TRUEST]

They've explicitly told us it's not them or any other superpower. Why continue to cling to this notion?

Cuz they can lie. Matter of fact, they can do whatever the fucck they want.

 

[KillerB88]

Give an example of any of those things proven? Because I see people quote those #'s but I haven't seen the evidence of any of that shyt.

And according to a lot of y'all the aliens have all these society-altering systems yet somehow can't recover their own shyt either.

So you're in this thread spamming away with walls of text and goofy YouTube videos-- and you don't even really know what you're arguing against? The 60 minutes interview, the CNN interviews with Cuomo and Anderson Cooper, and even the late night show clip with Obama have highlighted the capabilities of these vehicles. It's not just people babbling. This has been covered seriously by every major news network. They're compiling a report to debrief Congress in a couple of weeks as we speak. You can play dumb all you want, but this IS happening.

 

[KillerB88]

Cuz they can lie. Matter of fact, they can do whatever the fucck they want.

And what do they gain by allowing this to gain traction while the world is in disarray? Why would President Obama be confirming all of this as well? Do you hear yourself?

 

[Professor Emeritus]

So you're in this thread spamming away with walls of text and goofy YouTube videos-- and you don't even really know what you're arguing against? The 60 minutes interview, the CNN interviews with Cuomo and Anderson Cooper, and even the late night show clip with Obama have highlighted the capabilities of these vehicles. It's not just people babbling. This has been covered seriously by every major news network. They're compiling a report to debrief Congress in a couple of weeks as we speak. You can play dumb all you want, but this IS happening.

Wait, so your only evidence is random bullshyt people spout off in interviews and you think that's enough to claim impossible capabilities?

Breh, I watched the interviews, they had a fukking COP on there trying to describe how advanced the technology was. If you were serious about putting forth evidence for technology 1000 years ahead of ours, would you put forth a fukking COP as the person trying to explain that? And both he and most of the other people in those interviews have literally worked for and been paid by To The Stars to promote UFOs. Stop being so gullible.

Give me actual evidence of the capabilities you claim. And no, "I heard someone say it on TV" is not evidence.

 

[KillerB88]

Wait, so your only evidence is random bullshyt people spout off in interviews and you think that's enough to claim impossible capabilities?

Breh, I watched the interviews, they had a fukking COP on there trying to describe how advanced the technology was. If you were serious about putting forth evidence for technology 1000 years ahead of ours, would you put forth a fukking COP as the person trying to explain that? And both he and most of the other people in those interviews have literally worked for and been paid by To The Stars to promote UFOs. Stop being so gullible.

Give me actual evidence of the capabilities you claim. And no, "I heard someone say it on TV" is not evidence.

The intellectual dishonesty. I'm not even going to bother. I'm just going to have to disengage with you on this topic. President Barack Obama is backing all of this as well. Is he just some guy spouting random bullshyt?

 

[Professor Emeritus]

The intellectual dishonesty. I'm not even going to bother. I'm just going to have to disengage with you on this topic. President Barack Obama is backing all of this as well. Is he just some guy spouting random bullshyt?

You want us to simultaneously believe.

A. President Obama believes that aliens are trying to interfere with our military operations.

B. But this concerned President Obama so little that he didn't pay any attention to it and Luis Elizondo was forced to quit the Pentagon in disgust cause no one would give his UFO shyt the time of day.


That's completely nonsensical. Y'all can't claim that Elizondo is telling the truth about quitting government work cause the government wasn't taking UFOs seriously, and then claim that Obama had proof of aliens. All Obama was saying is that there were videos they didn't understand yet. It was clear as fukk that he didn't take that shyt that seriously, he mentioned it as a joke on a goddamn talk show. Yet you want to spin that into some massive disclosure.

I'm only waiting to see when the "report" comes out in a few weeks and we learn absolutely nothing new with absolutely zero meaningful additional evidence, whether y'all are going to be extra disappointed or somehow spin that into a win cause the government "admitted!" something by having a report at all.

How many more years are you gonna be satisfied by blurry dots on a screen?

 

[Professor Emeritus]

They've explicitly told us it's not them or any other superpower. Why continue to cling to this notion?

Who is "they"? Some people who work for To The Stars to promote UFOs? The US government itself has never made those claims about any of this recent shyt.

And lying about how they were involved is EXACTLY what our government did in the 1950s and 1960s when they didn't want to disclose their spy planes. It's especially weird that y'all keep claiming the government is hiding all their alien knowledge from us, but then claim the government is 100% honest regarding their secret military capabilities.....especially cause there's a long documented history of the US government lying about top-secret flight technology and not a shred of evidence that they've ever lied about aliens.

C.I.A. Admits Government Lied About U.F.O. Sightings (Published 1997)

 

[KillerB88]

Who is "they"? Some people who work for To The Stars to promote UFOs? The US government itself has never made those claims about any of this recent shyt.

And lying about how they were involved is EXACTLY what our government did in the 1950s and 1960s when they didn't want to disclose their spy planes. It's especially weird that y'all keep claiming the government is hiding all their alien knowledge from us, but then claim the government is 100% honest regarding their secret military capabilities.....especially cause there's a long documented history of the US government lying about top-secret flight technology and not a shred of evidence that they've ever lied about aliens.

C.I.A. Admits Government Lied About U.F.O. Sightings (Published 1997)

Why are you posting a nonsense article from 1997? It's 2021. We're dealing with what they're telling us TODAY.

 

[KillerB88]

You want us to simultaneously believe.

A. President Obama believes that aliens are trying to interfere with our military operations.

B. But this concerned President Obama so little that he didn't pay any attention to it and Luis Elizondo was forced to quit the Pentagon in disgust cause no one would give his UFO shyt the time of day.


That's completely nonsensical. Y'all can't claim that Elizondo is telling the truth about quitting government work cause the government wasn't taking UFOs seriously, and then claim that Obama had proof of aliens. All Obama was saying is that there were videos they didn't understand yet. It was clear as fukk that he didn't take that shyt that seriously, he mentioned it as a joke on a goddamn talk show. Yet you want to spin that into some massive disclosure.

I'm only waiting to see when the "report" comes out in a few weeks and we learn absolutely nothing new with absolutely zero meaningful additional evidence, whether y'all are going to be extra disappointed or somehow spin that into a win cause the government "admitted!" something by having a report at all.

How many more years are you gonna be satisfied by blurry dots on a screen?

This has been covered. There are 'factions' within the DoD that have varying opinions on the UAP/UFO phenomenon. I'm not going to go down the speculation rabbit hole on that topic, but over the past 3-4 years there has clearly been a concerted effort towards disclosure. It's obvious that this is a coordinated event. It took Congress applying pressure to the DoD to get the ball rolling. President Obama may very well have played a role in facilitating that process. We don't know what they know yet. When Congress is briefed next month, we'll have a clearer picture. And Obama literally said 'I'm being serious' when he explained the footage that had been captured by military personnel. You know he was being serious. So when you try to deflect and say things like that, I know you have some sort of agenda. There are strange vehicles that have been interfering with out nuclear installations since the 40s. Our subs have tracked these vehicles moving at hundreds of knots beneath the surface of the water.

I don't know if this is a religious thing for you, or fear based-- but get over it. Disclosure is happening. And there's nothing you can do to stop it.