So we ain't been back to the Moon since '72?

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that doesn't make sense at all...we have no problems making it rain for literally any other reason ever...why would space travel be any different?

what about building lunar space stations and continually sending out satellites/probes/rovers to explore space...that shyt is not free...and certainly isn't cheap

Sending out space probes is way cheaper than sending people. And we can't even balance the budget or figure out how to pay for social security...only thing we make it rain for is stupid wars.

We could go six times in 3 years, but we cant afford to go anymore....:childplease:

We went because of the cold war. The U.S. didn't want to let the communists get there first, so they were willing to foot the bill. Plus the economy wasn't as bad then.

There's no real motive to go back now.

Yall nikkas need to read a history book.
 

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From what I understand, Nasa literally lost the blue prints to the rockets that were used to travel there. Or at the very least, the people who actually knew who the whole thing was put together are dead and gone, and people don't really have an understanding of how Saturn V worked anymore.

The Lost Art of the Saturn V | Vintage Space

The division of labour on the Saturn V’s construction proved, in retrospect, to be a double-edged sword. On the one hand, it allowed the rocket to be completed at an incredible rate, certainly responsible for the success of the Apollo program.

But on the other hand, building the rocket at such a rate and with so many subcontractors means the people who oversaw and understood the actual assembly and overall working of the Saturn V were few. Each contractor recorded the workings of their stage and records survive about the engines used, but only a handful of engineers from the MSC knew how Saturn V puzzle fit together.

It is possible to work backwards to recreate individual aspects of the technology, but the men who knew how the whole vehicle worked are gone. No one alive today is able to recreate the Saturn V as it was.

Worse is the lack of records. Without a planned used for the Saturn V after Apollo, most of the comprehensive records of the rockets inner workings stayed with the engineers. Any plans or documents explaining the inner workings of the completed rocket that remain are possibly living in someone’s basement, unknown and lost in a pile of a relative’s old work papers.

Two Saturn Vs remain today as museum pieces, but it is likely that the rocket will never see a rebirth and reuse in manned spaceflight.

Yes, NASA put men on the moon with 1960s technology, but that technology doesn’t exist anymore. By default, neither does the possibility of a manned lunar or Martian mission for that matter without a new launch vehicle. A new heavy lifting vehicle will eventually come about – it will have to for NASA to pursue its longer-term goals. Until then, NASA is bound to low Earth orbit and minimal interplanetary unmanned spacecraft.
 

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Damn, Sanford & Son was just coming on and we aint been back since? :laugh:

The aliens on the moon must've treated us like black ppl driving in the south in the '60's on some, "Don't you ever let me catch you around these here parts again"

:laugh:
 

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The main reason we went was to beat the Soviets there. Like someone said there's no economic justification for going back. They would have to design everything from scratch again and the cost overruns would be enormous.
 

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The main reason we went was to beat the Soviets there. Like someone said there's no economic justification for going back. They would have to design everything from scratch again and the cost overruns would be enormous.

lmao at this sh!t, lamest excuse ever

you develop rockets to compete with the soviets and you accidentally lose them by involving too many contractors?

lmao

they never went

they never went
 

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:childplease: @ people thinking we never went


We haven't been back for economic reasons. Space travel is mad expensive and to be honest, there's not really anything on the moon but rocks. In this economy nobody wants to pay for it.

:childplease: Oh really, in THIS economy? So what about the past 35 years when things were poppin.

And what does that hae to do with the REST OF THE WORLD, China/Russia, etc. not goign back either
 

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We haven't went back because there isn't shyt to do there.
 

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:childplease: Oh really, in THIS economy? So what about the past 35 years when things were poppin.

And what does that hae to do with the REST OF THE WORLD, China/Russia, etc. not goign back either

There's no point.

It's already been done.

There's nothing to learn there. It's a rock mass.
 

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:childplease: Oh really, in THIS economy? So what about the past 35 years when things were poppin.

And what does that hae to do with the REST OF THE WORLD, China/Russia, etc. not goign back either

There's nothing on the moon. No atmosphere, no life, no nothing...just rocks. Politicians (in the US and elsewhere) generally look for some sort of return on investment and when comes to sending someone to the moon, there really isn't one.

It's like asking why nobody would want to pay 200 billion to visit the Sahara Desert. Yall can believe dumb conspiracy theories if you want, but the real reason is that there just isn't any political, scientific, or economic reason to send anybody else to the moon. The manned moon missions were motivated mostly by Cold War politics, and with that gone there's just no motive to go. Taxpayers don't want to pay for it.
 

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There's no point.

It's already been done.

There's nothing to learn there. It's a rock mass.

So us continually trying to learn more and more about the same planets and sending a dozen satellites to Mars still has a point?

Sorry, I just find this to be funny that in a time when we could get there probably twice as fast, half as cheap and nobody in the WORLD is going up there.
 

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So us continually trying to learn more and more about the same planets and sending a dozen satellites to Mars still has a point?

Sorry, I just find this to be funny that in a time when we could get there probably twice as fast, half as cheap and nobody in the WORLD is going up there.

See acri's post above yours.
 

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There's no point.

It's already been done.

There's nothing to learn there. It's a rock mass.

Pretty much.

Manned spaceflight is pretty worthless. Yeah, there are some benefits (Mostly symbolic), but more knowledge is gained by not wasting resources on the comforts of humans. We can also travel further, for longer distances at a time, and STAY where we go.

Obviously manned space flight is going to be an important part of humanity going into the future, but right now, we are really still just skimming the surface of what we know about our own star system.

Besides, the only place left to go, practically that is, is Mars anyways. Practically means sending someone out and bringing them back safely within like a 10 year period. After that there are the moons of Jupiter/Saturn but those are a ways out beyond even mars and we probably don't have the tech to send people to most of them anyways. People act like if we just invested into manned space flight again that we are going to be sending astronauts to Pluto or some sht....naw brehs. We have Mars and........that's it for now.
 

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So us continually trying to learn more and more about the same planets and sending a dozen satellites to Mars still has a point?

Sorry, I just find this to be funny that in a time when we could get there probably twice as fast, half as cheap and nobody in the WORLD is going up there.

The Mars Rovers did in fact send back important scientific information.....

It's cost/reward man. What would it cost to send and retrieve a human to and from mars, and what would we get back in return.....:to:

Now what do we get if we send a dune buggy with a camera phone up there, and just let it rot up there when it breaks down....:jawalrus:

You say "NOBODY IS GOING" like it's some easy ass accomplishment...the two powers that had an incentive and the resources to do it (Russia, US) aren't interested. Who else CAN do it? The EU? China? Japan? Most countries haven't even started any sort of serious space expedition, as has been stated, the cold war is pretty much the only reason why the super powers even did it.

Of course, you actually accidentally make a good point. Many do not feel that even rover or voyager type missions are worth it these days. Which is why Obama continues to de-fund NASA, and US Astronauts are hitching rides on Russian carriers.
 

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So us continually trying to learn more and more about the same planets and sending a dozen satellites to Mars still has a point?

Sorry, I just find this to be funny that in a time when we could get there probably twice as fast, half as cheap and nobody in the WORLD is going up there.

that's why im like "huh?" cuz from acri's standpoint it seems as though space exploration/travel should all be ended on some "we been there done that" steeze

applying the same logic would halt all research on basically everything we've just began to understand/uncover...fukk them pyramids!...we already seen them.

how in the hell is it possibly cheaper to send an manmade object into deep space just to get back grainy ass pics several years later of planets that are hundreds (if not more) times further away from earth than our own moon?....mind you said space probes/rover are manmade to be durable enough to defy gravity then exit our atmosphere and fly around in space for years on a “mission” of some sort…these missions cannot be anything less than several hundred millions of dollars to make possible from start to finish….i hardly believe that sending trained astronauts in a shuttle to our closest celestial buddy could be that much more expensive…especially because 40 years progression of technology should have (and more than likely has) provided the know how to make the process more streamlined, cheaper…”easier” if you will….especially since we’ve “been there before”
 

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....i dig what you other guys are saying...but just for the simple sake of curiosity that drives humanity...it's funny to me that ya'll are saying "oh it's just rocks"...nothing to see here...when we've only had 1 manmade trip EVER

we literally have a new nat geo doc weekly of the same wonders of the world, landmarks, ancient civilizations towns so on and so forth yet we go back again and again to uncover "new and hidden" secrets for these places... the concept doesn’t hold true for the moon? ....folks get boosted to go see a giant gash in the earth’s crust made by a constant water trickle (yay family trip to the grand canyon)...but later for further moon exploration because it’s just rocks?!

Ooooh kay
 
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