So the longshoremen are about to go on strike on the East and Gulf coasts.

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Now we're at the stage where we concern troll about union bosses. Union leaders have tough jobs too. They're the ones negotiating better wages and working conditions for thousands of workers against powerful corporate entities. It's just like how CEOs get paid for their leadership. It makes sense for union leaders to be compensated fairly too. I could understand those concerns if they weren't delivering for the workers, but all signs say they do. If members are getting better pay, benefits, and protections, then the leadership is doing its job.

And before the usual suspects start in, I do have a problem with corporate CEOs for making ridiculous amounts money while their workers barely get by. It's a stupid comparison to make, because CEOs are making millions by keeping wages low, cutting benefits, laying people off, and engaging in stock buy-backs to boost profits at the expense of those workers. Union leaders are actually out there actually fighting for workers to get better pay and conditions. It makes no sense to be okay with CEO pay, but not union bosses being compensated well. At least they're fighting for workers to be paid well too.
These guys are paid well and rejected a 50% pay increase so they can fukk over millions of other workers.

Greed is greed. :camby:
 
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These guys are paid well and rejected a 50% pay increase so they can fukk over millions of other workers.

Greed is greed. :camby:
Ain't this America?

As much as I like unions I think automation is here to stay. Its just the nature of capitalism. Very soon most jobs will, at least theoretically be replaceable with automation especially as AI and robotics become more advanced.
It's inevitable. Still, we shouldn't just roll over and let it destroy more jobs before there's a strong structure in place to support those who've been displaced.
 

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Ain't this America?


It's inevitable. Still, we shouldn't just roll over and let it destroy more jobs before there's a strong structure in place to support those who've been displaced.
Some type of UBI system is what will ultimately be needed. AI and Robotics is going to take away jobs faster than it will create new ones. And not everyone will have the aptitude for STEM jobs. It isn't just a matter of simply retraining people. We're going to have to totally restructure our economy.
 

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I'll be glad when automation takes over....this shyt is ridiculous, now I gotta deal with high ass prices coming because of yall bs.
 

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If they don't do their jobs, we don't get our goods and society grinds to a halt. Did COVID teach you all nothing? They deserve that pay. Especially given how inflation spiked over the last 2 years. Plus, with automation on the horizon, they have to get their money while they can. On the JBP, the longshoreman there said that if the docks shut down that's $5B a day lost and for every month the docks are offline, it takes 6 months to recover. That pay is no different, but, IMO, better deserved than NFL pay.
Everybody should get paid more especially those who worked through the panny but that’s not happening. I hope these dock workers know what they’re doing… Following this man up might not be the best move for them. We will see though.
 
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