So now that Trump won the election, what can the Democratic Party do better to have a chance in 2028??

[Unbothered]

I still think Kamala wins the election, I want her to win.

However, if Trump were to win in some ways, it'd be a good thing because, let's be honest, this would very much be his final term; I don't buy into all the doomsday President/Dictator forever shtick.

If Trump wins, this will be it. We won't have to worry about his ass being in the spotlight as a presidential candidate in 2028, 2032, and so on. This would be his final term. Sure, the next Republican could be just as bad or worse, but at least Trump would be fully out of the picture in terms of running for President; there would be no 3rd, 4th, 5th, etc, terms. This would be it.

That means Dems would have to actually do more than the bare minimum in terms of running a campaign which could either be a good or bad thing in that type of scenario where Trump isn't no longer on the other side of the ballot. We all want this man's time to end in terms of him constantly running, so while his winning would be awful, there's a bright side to him winning, as well, as stated above.

So, to further elaborate on the bolded, yes, Trump winning was a sad affair; however, it's not all gloomy either. The bright side is that we know for a fact he'll be a nonfactor in terms of running for the presidency or being on the ballot anymore, his influence will be hanging around but it'll be a fresh of breath air knowing he's no longer opposite of the ballot, so the Dems will be facing a new character which could be a good thing or a bad thing for Democrats in '28.

This means that the Dems are going to have to run a much better campaign, not necessarily in regards to policies and such but rather attitude and mentality, one of the things that have led the Blue side into becoming stagnant in their approach is the fact many Democrats as well as their voters overestimated, underestimated, miscalculated, and overly reliant on running on the idea of “not being Trump” failing to understand that's a losing strategy and is not good enough to win.

The Dems are going to need a candidate that can “restore the feeling” that was present in '08 and, to some extent, in '12. Now, the nominee doesn't have to be Obama 2.0, but they need to have that ability to galvanize the people similarly. The truth is that Biden, Kamala, and Hillary all had too much baggage (some out of their control; gender, age, political scandal, etc) and “perception of character” issues that proved to be too much to overcome in the minds of voters.

The problem is that the Dems will no longer have Trump and his boogyman persona to campaign against which means they could be potentially facing a GOP candidate who is arguably better than Trump, in other words, they'll have their shyt together, no political or legal baggage holding them back, no perceptions of being a clown or a joke but rather someone who can legitimately win the votes of the people based on merit, basically a worthy adversary.

It's hard to say if the Democrats have a candidate that's good enough to restore the feelings of '08 and '12. I'm not convinced that Newsom, who people keep drooling over, can get it done, and Whitmer, unless she's a VP option, the Dems would be setting themselves up for another loss to run her as a #1 because America simply isn't ready nor interested in appointing a woman as leader of the country.

 

[Kinguno]

This was the convo I was having with my brother @Shadow King last night

I really believe we need more black people on not just a lot of these swing states but Red states as well to attempt to move the needles.

we can’t just remain in like say “5 to 6 places” in large strongholds while everyone else is expanding around us

Technically by doing that certain places would lose electoral votes while other places will gain. There’s a max of 538. But I don’t think that’s enough history tell us that if we build up something they will destroy it by various means.

 

[Black Lightning]

Nothing.

 

[Cobalt Sire]

No, we're not, and no, we don't. The black population isn't higher than 15% in Nevada, Wisconsin, Michigan, or Pennsylvania.

The black vote probably would've gotten her Georgia. She could've gotten every black voter in the country, and she still would've gotten smoked badly.

The issue is that we're either in deep red states (Florida, Bama, Texas) or we're in already deep blue states (New York, for example).

Black people aren't swinging any states besides Georgia... and that's not really even an exaggeration.

How did Obama win by landslides both times? Black people came out to vote. That's it. In North Carolina, Black people are 20 percent, Latinos are 11 percent. We've got bigger numbers than them in most of the swing states. The Dems neglected the Black vote (played in our faces), and that's why they lost. You guys tried to argue us down for 5 years, and now you're saying our vote doesn't matter? It doesn't work that way.

 

[Lucky_Lefty]

Have common sense policies

Really that simple. This and stop trying to the hearts and minds of folks. That morality shyt hasn’t meant a damn thing to republicans since forever. Not saying sacrifice them all but

 

[Amestafuu (Emeritus)]

Wade in mud and piss like pigs to relate to the audience they couldn't capture.

 

[HabitualChiller]

How did Obama win by landslides both times? Black people came out to vote. That's it.

The whole damn country came out to vote!

Buddy was a young, extremely charismatic guy who promised change on the heels of a severe economic recession. Everyone was looking for a way out, and he was the perfect guy in '08.

Almost everyone loved him his first run, and Romney was pretty disliked, so his second run was much easier.

You can google what percentage of the US is black, and where most black Americans reside and see that our vote doesn't mean shít in the battleground states, which was all but confirmed yesterday.

 

[Unbothered]

How did Obama win by landslides both times? Black people came out to vote. That's it. In North Carolina, Black people are 20 percent, and Latinos are 11 percent. We've got bigger numbers than them in most of the swing states. The Dems neglected the Black vote (played in our faces), and that's why they lost.

The Black vote is important, no doubt about that, but at the same time, it's not the “be all end all” for the Dems winning because all it takes is a few White voters to switch colors, from Blue to Red, and it wouldn't matter how many Black folks showed up to the polling stations.

Obama didn't just win because of Black people, although it played a major role, he also won because he was able to secure a hefty amount of white voters. Kamala lost because she wasn't able to attract enough White voters in key states; white voters and, to a lesser extent, Latino voters are what failed Kamala last night in the grand scheme.

 

[African Peasant]

Run a normal white male as a candidate.

 

[Adeptus Astartes]

No it didn’t she got a worse black turnout then Biden did lmao hence why she lost where he won

It's the opposite. They neglected the Black vote, and now they've lost because of it. Just like in 2016, the Black vote turnout wasn't good because Obama neglected us for 8 years.

Trump is gonna win the popular vote by 3-4 million and you still say this. White people and Latinos put Trump back in office. Latinos have swung like 30 points to the right over the last 8 years.

 

[AKM-95]

People laugh and think its jokes but Obama was a unicorn. We’ll NEVER see his like again. He was the Michael Jordan/Jackson of politics.

Man I remember watching CNN election coverage and back then they were calling him a modern JFK....yesterday they ran some of his polling numbers and he really was him lol

As for what next I don't know I think this election showed that people were ready for a change and I truly think White folks, Latinos, and some black men voted for that change...The Democrats are really gonna have to take a look in the mirror and at Americans to realign their message. I don't think Gavin newsom, Big Grech, or even AOC alone are gonna be the answer .

 

[dh86]

Democrats needs to STOP letting republicans dictate to them what the problems are. Not pushing Biden out earlier and not having a primary gave republicans time to reinforce what the problems were so the democrats became reactionary.

 

[Kinguno]

You think that many people would've voted without the millions of mail-in ballots due to COVID?

I think it would’ve been closer with Biden but the thing is including this current go around he’s been passed over twice. Biden was the only person who could’ve beaten Trump given his track record like long time senator, working with the other side, and the fact he was with Obama plus his personal story the almost dying and the tragedy. The son that died was groomed to be President but Biden was in mourning so he didn’t run.

All of the above stated Trump is a figure that’s kinda of Obama, JFK,and Regan like in his own way. I had Trump beating Biden this go around because Trump seems like he’s full of more life than Biden. Plus he’s more normalized so after all these years there are kids who now adults who voted for him. I’ve been listening to a podcast by the NYT called the Run-Up (listen to it while you can) and basically there’s just been this growing momentum for Trump meanwhile the Democrats have been up & down from things like the debate and then Biden stepping down. A lot of people were already mad about the economy then you add in the fake victory lap stuff from the democrats.

The man Trump is averaging 69 million votes an election across three of them. He is the issue of the time more than Covid and the Democrats barely beat him in 2020 but since then he was focused on this win. Biden was hiding in 2020 as well but Covid helped cover for him.

Honestly I feel bad personally for Kamala she’s 60 and her political career is over. What is she going to do because even when she was running in 2012 she wasn’t well liked. Gavin Newsome and others are waiting out the Trump storm.

Dems would’ve been better off in 2020 putting out Jimmy Carter against Trump then letting 2024 be a clean slate.

 

[Bigwhite2498]

Trump is gonna win the popular vote by 3-4 million and you still say this. White people and Latinos put Trump back in office. Latinos have swung like 30 points to the right over the last 8 years.

It’s a literal fact idiot lmao

 

[dh86]

The Black vote bushed them and they lost. You want to win? Do something for your most loyal base. Want to lose? Play games with your most loyal base.

If you want them to get rid of the LGBT, the Black social issues are next on the chopping block. They are tied together forever