So marvel is about to job out the X-Men to the weak ass inhumans huh

[Jazzy B.]

Anybody that says they liked it is a Stan. What a life to live to forever hate Marvel bout to have these nikkas mad for ten damn years a got damn generation done grown up and these nikkas been mad the whole time

Marvel got them so damn mad

 

[Dominic Brehetto]

I'm not minimizing it, "Age Of Ultron" was awful. But you cats are talking about cartoons and comics as the yard stick for a character's popularity when very little of that $1.4 billion was from comic fans.

I'm talking about average, every day people. Not comic fans.



I don't even know what you cats are arguing about. I'm saying fukking up Ronan isn't going to be as noticeable as fukking up an X-Men. And it's not. One is a A-list member of Marvel's most popular team, and one is a Z-tier villain for Guardians Of The Galaxy, who is itself a Z-tier team.

Imagine if I remixed DAS EFX "Dead Serious" with shytty beats vs if I remixed BIG's "Ready To Die". People are going to be far more upset at the latter than the former. Most people probably wouldn't even care about the former.

Fred.

Nobody is saying they are on the same level.

But that's irrelevant when I can easily right now pull out dozens of quotes from posters complaining that wb/fox/sony doesn't stay true to the comics and then saying marvel doesn't do that and always stays true.

That shyt is said all the time. Or people complaining that say old man Logan won't be the same story but won't have a single problem with age of ultron being nothing like the comics and then again ,praising marvel for following the comics


The hypocrisy,bullshyt and lies are ridiculous.

 

[Jello Biafra]

All business, Fox should just give the rights back overall, they are the faculty putting out a shytty product from start, fans should petition if they have a problem, Marvel wouldn't have had to sell if fans came thru in the clutch

Fox giving the rights to the X-Men back to Marvel/Disney would be a stupid decision. The movies make money and that is the only thing that matters to a movie studio.

 

[Dominic Brehetto]

All business, Fox should just give the rights back overall, they are the faculty putting out a shytty product from start, fans should petition if they have a problem, Marvel wouldn't have had to sell if fans came thru in the clutch

movies like first class,x2 and dofp take a giant shyt on garbage like Thor 2 and iron man 2. Matter of fact they better than the majority of the MCU films


And the first x men is one of the films that paved the way for the modern comic book film

 

[NormanConnors]

Fox giving the rights to the X-Men back to Marvel/Disney would be a stupid decision. The movies make money and that is the only thing that matters to a movie studio.

Yeah I understand, I don't have to like it though . Fox knows their material is bad.

 

[NormanConnors]

movies like first class,x2 and dofp take a giant shyt on garbage like Thor 2 and iron man 2. Matter of fact they better than the majority of the MCU films

Nah, garbage, had sparks here and there but overall mediocre. Iron Man 3 was subpar but that's because they pulled a Fox and butchered a character (Mandarin)

 

[Dominic Brehetto]

Yeah I understand, I don't have to like it though . Fox knows their material is bad.

The majority of their films are well reviewed and well liked.


You dudes need to stop confusing your personal opinion with reality.

 

[Jello Biafra]

Yeah I understand, I don't have to like it though . Fox knows their material is bad.

The X-franchise only really has two legit horrible movies though: Last Stand and the first Wolverine.
Apocalypse had some good stuff in it along with the mediocre stuff

 

[Khalil's_Black_Excellence]

How about Mandarin
Red skull
Scarlet witch
Quicksilver
Crossbones
Baron Zemo
The skrulls chituri
Ronan
Roadey (did they even reference him in cap two after he got destroyed?)
The all powerful - wise cracking black widow and Hawkeye
Hank Pym :Mindbaugh:
Whoever the fukk Thor was battling in the abhorrent Thor 2
Uncle ben:scustbaugh:

It goes both ways breh don't act like they're infallible.

Not only does your list pale in comparison to mine as far as b*stardizations for actual integral characters (most you listed aren't that important), but also, their "bad" treatment pales in comparison as well. Characters like Storm, Angel, Pyslocke almost don't even have a backstory, character development or even lines in the Fox movies. It goes further than just being bad representations of the characters, having bad/wrong actors playing the roles or them straying from how they're written in the books. They're barely even written for at all in the Fox movies. They're terrible on every plane, not just "imperfect".

I never said every character in the MCU was made to perfection. I will say this tho, MCU has several main characters, that are as good or in some cases, written to or portrayed to be even better than their comic counterparts, which is ironic too considering that the MCU nerfed the powerset of most of their characters.

Meanwhile, in Fox movies, Jubilee has had two appearances without any sort of display of power or even a voice (a common Fox trend tho so...), lol.

 

[MartyMcFly]

I'm not minimizing it, "Age Of Ultron" was awful. But you cats are talking about cartoons and comics as the yard stick for a character's popularity when very little of that $1.4 billion was from comic fans.

I'm talking about average, every day people. Not comic fans.



I don't even know what you cats are arguing about. I'm saying fukking up Ronan isn't going to be as noticeable as fukking up an X-Men. And it's not. One is a A-list member of Marvel's most popular team, and one is a Z-tier villain for Guardians Of The Galaxy, who is itself a Z-tier team.

Imagine if I remixed DAS EFX "Dead Serious" with shytty beats vs if I remixed BIG's "Ready To Die". People are going to be far more upset at the latter than the former. Most people probably wouldn't even care about the former.

Fred.

While I agree with the analogy I'd say where it doesn't hold up is that it's all relative as to what's important and what's not. You can't bytch about Logan taking liberties with the story but be okay with civil war or age of ultron taking liberties as well. If you want to argue about who's a more important character yeah you're right that people on the whole will be more upset about messing up storm than they will Zemo. But when the argument is that liberties shouldn't be taken but you're cool when they're taken by other people then that's hypocrisy

 

[Jello Biafra]

While I agree with the analogy I'd say where it doesn't hold up is that it's all relative as to what's important and what's not. You can't bytch about Logan taking liberties with the story but be okay with civil war or age of ultron taking liberties as well. If you want to argue about who's a more important character yeah you're right that people on the whole will be more upset about messing up storm than they will Zemo. But when the argument is that liberties shouldn't be taken but you're cool when they're taken by other people then that's hypocrisy

I'm more annoyed by how they completely fukked up Zemo.
Turning him into some generic ass disgruntled soldier from some shytty 3rd world country.
Zemo is supposed to have a legacy going back to WW2 and he's supposed to be styling on people not being some blah nobody.

 

[Khalil's_Black_Excellence]

Are you implying that the Disney films are all perfect representations of their comic characters?


Because. They aren't. Not even fukking close.

Never said they all were. However, almost all off them are hands down better than almost all of Fox's. Not even fukking close.

 

[2 Up 2 Down]

I kind of don't want to see the X film franchise in a shared universe with Marvel. I do want to see a full on reboot though. Lock the screenplay writers and director in a room and have them read Claremont's complete run and watch the animated series while they put together a script.

 

[Khalil's_Black_Excellence]

While I agree with the analogy I'd say where it doesn't hold up is that it's all relative as to what's important and what's not. You can't bytch about Logan taking liberties with the story but be okay with civil war or age of ultron taking liberties as well. If you want to argue about who's a more important character yeah you're right that people on the whole will be more upset about messing up storm than they will Zemo. But when the argument is that liberties shouldn't be taken but you're cool when they're taken by other people then that's hypocrisy

I think most are sensibly aware enough to know that some liberties being taken on any film made from a previous medium is a given, regardless cuz a 1-1 translation of such is just very rare and in a lot of cases, simply can't be done for a variety of reasons. However, some are obviously a lot more glaring and unforgivable than others and also, said liberties are looked at just as such all the more when they're just executed terribly on a multitude of factors.

 

[MartyMcFly]

I think most are sensibly aware enough to know that some liberties being taken on any film made from a previous medium is a given, regardless cuz a 1-1 translation of such is just very rare and in a lot of cases, simply can't be done for a variety of reasons. However, some are obviously a lot more glaring and unforgivable than others and also, said liberties are looked at just as such all the more when they're just executed terribly on a multitude of factors.

But then that's when relativity or just blind faith play a part and I don't know which is which. Cats in this thread have decried mystique leading the x men. Cool. But then make excuses as to why Tony stark plays such a big part in peters upbringing as a crime fighter. Can't have it both ways. And even if they say that Tony and Pete had a relationship in the comics it's in a completely different context that potentially robs pete of something. I say potentially because I haven't seen the movie so I won't project or prophecize but if you're a hardcore spider man fan like myself or @Ed MOTHERfukkING G then of course you may be leery of it on face value.

At the same time I had no prob at all with the mandarin in iron man 3 but I'm also not in love with that character. Meanwhile there are those who are and wanted to see him done justice. They didn't feel they got that and I respect their viewpoint even if I'm not on the same wavelength. For someone mandarin or ultron is their shyt and they don't want to feel shortchanged.