So marvel is about to job out the X-Men to the weak ass inhumans huh

[David_TheMan]

They aint rebooting nothing b, watch them run back to Jackman and OG cast like they did with Days of Future Past


They are terrified of rebooting. They know the popularity of the movies hinges on the original cast.

I think even Jackman is tired off it, but if they give all the OG cast ridiculous money it might happen, but with the quality of these movies that might put them in a financial hole.

 

[Khalil's_Black_Excellence]

Because fox isn't forcing anyone's hands by actively using characters and properties that they paid marvel for 30 years ago when Marvel offered them. Thats like saying you sold me a car, I'm using the car and doing what I want with it but you're mad at me for not using the car the way you would when you already sold it to me. It's not yours anymore. We had a legal transaction. Fox didn't hustle Marvel on some Snidely Whiplash type mess. Marvel offered, they accepted the terms of the deal, shook hands and here we are. And now that Marvel is making movies they want to cut their nose to spite their face? And again, it's hurting the fans first and foremost. I'm not mad at Fox for not doing whatever Marvel wants them to do because they're not obligated to do so.

Also yes, as a fan who reads and buys comics, I am seeing it from my perspective because that's the one that matters. Unlike the rest of the film room, I don't sit on Marvel's board of directors and collect a check on a weekly

While I agree with this, you still should be mad at Fox for putting out shyt movies and doing character injustices. Just saying.

 

[MartyMcFly]

While I agree with this, you still should be mad at Fox for putting out shyt movies and doing character injustices. Just saying.

That is opinion though. Unlike the rest of the internet, I got no beef with X2, first class, days of future past, wolverine, or even the first x men movie. So I got nothing to be mad at.

 

[OneManGang]

The Inhumnans can beat the X-Men almost effortlessly because The X-Men are a group. The Inhumans are an entire race of people.
Saying Inhumans vs the X-Men is like saying Brazilian People vs the Lakers. That doesn't even make sense.

XMen even after House of M would wash the Inhumans if an all out war occurred.

 

[AnonymityX1000]

People seems to be mad at a corporation acting like a corporation. We all should know corporations don't do shyt for their fans, unless it benefits their bottom line.While Marvel Disney did sell FOX the movie rights they didn't sell them the comic book rights so it is there's to do what they want with it. Why isn't FOX to blame for not also buying the comic book rights so they could avoid what is currently happening to their properties in that medium? Did they not see this coming? Did FOX jerk the fans by not buying everything so their properties are independent to a competitor's influence?
And shouldn't Marvel be given points for taking an artistic risk by discontinuing something popular for something that is more of a challenge to make popular? They made a mistake, got into financial trouble and are being sober and not sentimental about their path forward. Synergy in all mediums is more important to them than promoting a competitor's movie characters and continuing something that has no benefit to them in the future no matter how popular it is in the present. Movies is the future big $ earner not comic books, corporations will always will do what increases them, unfortunately some historic titles are casualties in this particular instance. It's a cold game. lol

 

[ZEB WALTON]

People seems to be mad at a corporation acting like a corporation. We all should know corporations don't do shyt for their fans, unless it benefits their bottom line.While Marvel Disney did sell FOX the movie rights they didn't sell them the comic book rights so it is there's to do what they want with it. Why isn't FOX to blame for not also buying the comic book rights so they could avoid what is currently happening to their properties in that medium? Did they not see this coming? Did FOX jerk the fans by not buying everything so their properties are independent to a competitor's influence?
And shouldn't Marvel be given points for taking an artistic risk by discontinuing something popular for something that is more of a challenge to make popular? They made a mistake, got into financial trouble and are being sober and not sentimental about their path forward. Synergy in all mediums is more important to them than promoting a competitor's movie characters and continuing something that has no benefit to them in the future no matter how popular it is in the present. Movies is the future big $ earner not comic books, corporations will always will do what increases them, unfortunately some historic titles are casualties in this particular instance. It's a cold game. lol

fukk both of em

i dont blame em but that doesnt mean its not a shytty thing to do. they sold their characters, they fukked up. they deserve any backlash marvel xmen fans should give them

 

[AnonymityX1000]

fukk both of em

i dont blame em but that doesnt mean its not a shytty thing to do. they sold their characters, they fukked up. they deserve any backlash marvel xmen fans should give them

I used to collect comics/Mutant titles but don't anymore so I'm not privy to recent story lines. When Marvel started giving the X-Men less priority what happened story line wise? Just curious.

 

[Ed MOTHERFUCKING G]

People seems to be mad at a corporation acting like a corporation. We all should know corporations don't do shyt for their fans, unless it benefits their bottom line.While Marvel Disney did sell FOX the movie rights they didn't sell them the comic book rights so it is there's to do what they want with it. Why isn't FOX to blame for not also buying the comic book rights so they could avoid what is currently happening to their properties in that medium? Did they not see this coming? Did FOX jerk the fans by not buying everything so their properties are independent to a competitor's influence?
And shouldn't Marvel be given points for taking an artistic risk by discontinuing something popular for something that is more of a challenge to make popular? They made a mistake, got into financial trouble and are being sober and not sentimental about their path forward. Synergy in all mediums is more important to them than promoting a competitor's movie characters and continuing something that has no benefit to them in the future no matter how popular it is in the present. Movies is the future big $ earner not comic books, corporations will always will do what increases them, unfortunately some historic titles are casualties in this particular instance. It's a cold game. lol

Most corporations wouldnt sabotage one of their own flagship brands to prop up another

If ralph lauren sold polo branding to macys and ten years later, they wanted to sell RRL, they wouldnt purposefully sell terrible versions of Polo on their site to spawn greater sales of RRL

 

[MartyMcFly]

I used to collect comics/Mutant titles but don't anymore so I'm not privy to recent story lines. When Marvel started giving the X-Men less priority what happened story line wise? Just curious.

The Schism storyline, the avengers vs x men storyline, and bendis writing all new x men which was the return of the original team through time travel of course. All good stories minus that AvX shyt but Marvel's crossovers are normally meh anyway. Schism was very very dope tho

 

[Ill Lou Malnati]

The X-Men have been awful for years anyway, judging by what I've read personally and heard about. I don't like the direction they've gone in by killing people off and then having younger (or older) versions of those characters jumping timelines and realities. Trying to have their cake and eat it, too. Typical messy shyt the X-books have always done.

That said, I have zero interest in the Inhumans. There were always boring to me, even when I was reading the early FF comics as a kid.

 

[AnonymityX1000]

Most corporations wouldnt sabotage one of their own flagship brands to spite another

If ralph lauren sold polo branding to macys and ten years later, they wanted to sell RRL, they wouldnt purposefully sell terrible versions of Polo on their site to spawn greater sales of RRL

Polo did start putting their past seasons clothes in Filene's Basement and Marshall's tho thus giving new seasons less of the prestige/high end brand value it had before. I remember people being mad about that.
Business decisions have only the bottom line as a consideration not the hopes and dreams of 'fans'. As fans you come off kind of ungrateful.
Marvel: "Hey, we messed up financially and have to diminish this one title for another to ensure our businesses success going forward. I know you loved this title and appreciate the thousands of hours of entertainment we provided for you with it but unfortunately it doesn't work for us financially anymore."
Fans: "No we need the X-Men! I don't like anything else! I can't move on!"
Marvel: "We messed up. But to make it up to you we got this new group of heroes with entirely different back story and characters for you to enjoy. Give it a chance? Plus, how many X-Men stories are their left to tell this entire 'persecution because your different' angle has been worked to death and kinda doesn't make sense in the grand scheme of Marvel since other types of heroes don't get the same persecution. Aren't you interested interested in a different type of story?!"
Fans: "No I need to read Logan say bub, Cyclops simp over another bytch who treats him like shyt and Xavier to hide more secrets that put the team and the entire universe at risk!"

 

[ZEB WALTON]

I used to collect comics/Mutant titles but don't anymore so I'm not privy to recent story lines. When Marvel started giving the X-Men less priority what happened story line wise? Just curious.

killing off characters, flip flopping villains, i havent liked xmen since the new xmen/astonishing - morrison/whedon run

 

[Days of Future Piff]

killing off characters, flip flopping villains, i havent liked xmen since the new xmen/astonishing - morrison/whedon run

I only really got into the Claremont run comic-wise. His run started falling off slightly after Paul Smith IMO, but Mutant Massacre and Fall of the Mutants had their moments. X-Force: the Apocalypse Solution was one of the most comics I've ever read.
The Astonishing X-men motion comic was though, and I've been sleeping on Age of Apocalypse. (Why's it gotta be so expensive ya'll ) Been hearing great things about the Grant Morrison run.

 

[Perfectson]

Is this an alternative time line shyt, I don't follow but I see wolverine and I thought they killed him off.

Smh...need to go back to making linear progressing comics. Multiple timelines is so d.c.

 

[Khalil's_Black_Excellence]

That is opinion though. Unlike the rest of the internet, I got no beef with X2, first class, days of future past, wolverine, or even the first x men movie. So I got nothing to be mad at.

So you think Pyscloke was good representation of the character?

Apocalypse?

Juggernaut?

Angel

Havok.

Silver Samurai.


Storm.

Kitty Pryde.

Rogue.

Gambit.

John Wraith.


Darwin. (Actor/characterization actually was good, but you see how they went with that).

White Queen.

Fox films, if your name ain't Wolverine, Xavier, Magneto or Mystique, most of, if not all characterization is b*stardized at best, if not totally forgotten or non-developed at worst. Storylines and plots were hit or miss too. That ain't no damn opinion breh.
"Gina that ain't no damn puppy!"

But shyt, at least they (X-men movies) had some hits, whereas the filth that is Fantastic Four...


Also, the whole argument about why's marvel doing such and such, seems to gloss over that it is Fox that isn't willing to sell the rights back at all or make a deal with mahvel that benefits them boy like Sony did. I get that they don't have to but, still, they forced Disney/Marvel's hand to put more effort into their own stuff rather than try to spread the wealth with the properties they don't have movie rights over. I don't think it's self-sabotaging so much as the care that could've/would've went towards X-men is going towards their currently own properties, which just is at their (X-men/FF) expense.