So lil Durk is a Muslim now?

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I'll humor you, though. How do you measure intellectual evolution?

I'd measure it by not believing there is a magical "Allah" controlling everything. Entire Sunni Shia split is purely political bullshyt that muslims have been killing each other over for generations, about fukking fairytales :russ:

and scientific discoveries were made my muslims, hundreds of years ago, but that shyt is old news, muslims haven't contributed jack shyt for the longest
 

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I'd measure it by not believing there is a magical "Allah" controlling everything. Entire Sunni Shia split is purely political bullshyt that muslims have been killing each other over for generations, about fukking fairytales :russ:

and scientific discoveries were made my muslims, hundreds of years ago, but that shyt is old news, muslims haven't contributed jack shyt for the longest

So you disbelieve in the fundamental concept of a Monotheistic God being? And through that you surmise these people are intellectually....impaired or something? :jbhmm:

Denominational splits do exist in the religion, yes. But it's just like you said, over political issues. You should be discerning enough to distinguish that from religious persecution, which Islam expressly forbids in the "Sharia" you insulted earlier.

And we're discounting scientific discoveries just because they occurred a long time ago? Never minding the fact they're still relevant and put to use today? Or do you just move goalposts when you get cornered on a point? And the idea that Muslims "haven't contributed jack shyt for the longest" is a flat out lie. Examine any published science and its contributors. Be it medicine, international law, physics; what have you. Muslims are highly published in all of those fields.

I see where someone can look at a Muslim country in shambles, then flip to Fox News (or whatever bullshyt source you get your hate-propaganda from) and think there's a causal relationship between Islam and their current plight. A more sophisticated analysis would show you that it all stems from political and institutional mishandling and corruption on account of certain individuals at the top. Because let's not pretend for a second that every nation that promotes Christianity, any other religion or no religion at all is somehow immune from societal woes and troubles. You don't think that fairy tale, do you?:russ:
 

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So you disbelieve in the fundamental concept of a Monotheistic God being? And through that you surmise these people are intellectually....impaired or something? :jbhmm:

Denominational splits do exist in the religion, yes. But it's just like you said, over political issues. You should be discerning enough to distinguish that from religious persecution, which Islam expressly forbids in the "Sharia" you insulted earlier.

And we're discounting scientific discoveries just because they occurred a long time ago? Never minding the fact they're still relevant and put to use today? Or do you just move goalposts when you get cornered on a point? And the idea that Muslims "haven't contributed jack shyt for the longest" is a flat out lie. Examine any published science and its contributors. Be it medicine, international law, physics; what have you. Muslims are highly published in all of those fields.
yeah. and it isnt because they believe in some dusty ass goat herder who became a violent warlord after faking a prophecy :mjlol:

and why doesnt allah tell his followers which side of that conflict you mentioned, is correct :what:
 

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So you disbelieve in the fundamental concept of a Monotheistic God being? And through that you surmise these people are intellectually....impaired or something? :jbhmm:

Denominational splits do exist in the religion, yes. But it's just like you said, over political issues. You should be discerning enough to distinguish that from religious persecution, which Islam expressly forbids in the "Sharia" you insulted earlier.

And we're discounting scientific discoveries just because they occurred a long time ago? Never minding the fact they're still relevant and put to use today? Or do you just move goalposts when you get cornered on a point? And the idea that Muslims "haven't contributed jack shyt for the longest" is a flat out lie. Examine any published science and its contributors. Be it medicine, international law, physics; what have you. Muslims are highly published in all of those fields.

I see where someone can look at a Muslim country in shambles, then flip to Fox News (or whatever bullshyt source you get your hate-propaganda from) and think there's a causal relationship between Islam and their current plight. A more sophisticated analysis would show you that it all stems from political and institutional mishandling and corruption on account of certain individuals at the top. Because let's not pretend for a second that every nation that promotes Christianity, any other religion or no religion at all is somehow immune from societal woes and troubles. You don't think that fairy tale, do you?:russ:
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The simple FACT that faith is a blindfold also organized religion is meant for monetary gain. Nothing else.
 

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yeah. and it isnt because they believe in some dusty ass goat herder who became a violent warlord after faking a prophecy :mjlol:

and why doesnt allah tell his followers which side of that conflict you mentioned, is correct :what:

Can't take you seriously if the extent if your discussion is inflammatory hyperbole riddled with ignorance.

I guess you're better off sticking to your Jay-Z smileys and gifs. Carry on. :ufdup:
 

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Can't take you seriously if the extent if your discussion is inflammatory hyperbole riddled with ignorance.

I guess you're better off sticking to your Jay-Z smileys and gifs. Carry on. :ufdup:
its a simple question: if theres a serious split between allahs followers, why hasn't he done anything about it?


:huhldup:
 

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So you disbelieve in the fundamental concept of a Monotheistic God being? And through that you surmise these people are intellectually....impaired or something? :jbhmm:

Denominational splits do exist in the religion, yes. But it's just like you said, over political issues. You should be discerning enough to distinguish that from religious persecution, which Islam expressly forbids in the "Sharia" you insulted earlier.

And we're discounting scientific discoveries just because they occurred a long time ago? Never minding the fact they're still relevant and put to use today? Or do you just move goalposts when you get cornered on a point? And the idea that Muslims "haven't contributed jack shyt for the longest" is a flat out lie. Examine any published science and its contributors. Be it medicine, international law, physics; what have you. Muslims are highly published in all of those fields.

I see where someone can look at a Muslim country in shambles, then flip to Fox News (or whatever bullshyt source you get your hate-propaganda from) and think there's a causal relationship between Islam and their current plight. A more sophisticated analysis would show you that it all stems from political and institutional mishandling and corruption on account of certain individuals at the top. Because let's not pretend for a second that every nation that promotes Christianity, any other religion or no religion at all is somehow immune from societal woes and troubles. You don't think that fairy tale, do you?:russ:

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its a simple question: if theres a serious split between allahs followers, why hasn't he done anything about it?


:huhldup:

That's the crux of Muslim philosophy, that we're on this earth as humans to live our lives with the given guidance we have. The core of the belief is that we're given the tools we need to understand what's right and wrong. Are people going to interpret that differently? Sure. To suggest that God needs to interject and point out the victor to us is to ignore the entire concept of belief and discretion.
 

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That's the crux of Muslim philosophy, that we're on this earth as humans to live our lives with the given guidance we have. The core of the belief is that we're given the tools we need to understand what's right and wrong. Are people going to interpret that differently? Sure. To suggest that God needs to interject and point out the victor to us is to ignore the entire concept of belief and discretion.
thats fine, but the same people who say that pray to god so he'll intervene :yeshrug: it just seems inconsistent
 

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thats fine, but the same people who say that pray to god so he'll intervene :yeshrug: it just seems inconsistent

I'd have to remind you that there are a lot of people out there whose family and society prioritize blind, religious study (by someone who may or may not even be qualified to teach) over any other education. That's wrong and it's what leads to this sort of thinking and behavior. It's not a secret that Muslim countries have a lot of human development deficiencies; it's important to be able to distinguish that from what the faith itself actually teaches and promotes. :salute:
 

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Man where do they find you fukking idiots


Abu Sirma said to Abu Sa'id al Khadri (Allah he pleased with him): 0 Abu Sa'id, did you hear Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) mentioning al-'azl? He said: Yes, and added: We went out with Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) on the expedition to the Bi'l-Mustaliq and took captive some excellent Arab women; and we desired them, for we were suffering from the absence of our wives, (but at the same time) we also desired ransom for them. So we decided to have sexual intercourse with them but by observing 'azl (Interruptus Coitus - Withdrawing the male sexual organ before emission of semen to avoid-conception). But we said: We are doing an act whereas Allah's Messenger is amongst us; why not ask him? So we asked Allah's Mes- senger (may peace be upon him), and he said: It does not matter if you do not do it, for every soul that is to be born up to the Day of Resurrection will be born."
Sahih Muslim 8:3371

"Abu Sa’id al-Khudri said: The Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him) sent a military expedition to Awtas on the occasion of the battle of Hunain. They met their enemy and fought with them. They defeated them and took them captives. Some of the Companions of the Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him) were reluctant to have intercourse with the female captives in the presence of their husbands who were unbelievers. So Allah, the Exalted, sent down the Qur’anic verse: “And all married women (are forbidden) unto you save those (captives) whom your right hands possess.” That is to say, they are lawful for them when they complete their waiting period."
Abu Dawud 2:2150

Narrated Abu Said Al-Khudri: that while he was sitting with Allah's Apostle he said, "O Allah's Apostle! We get female captives as our share of booty, and we are interested in their prices, what is your opinion about coitus interrupt us?" The Prophet said, "Do you really do that? It is better for you not to do it. No soul that which Allah has destined to exist, but will surely come into existence.
Sahih Bukhari 3:34:432
 
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