So let's talk about Tim Tebow quitting on his teammates...

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anyone who doesnt see through this isnt paying attention.

No way Tebow would have said that...this is all the Jets putting this story out there.
why wouldnt he?

last year when those Tebow fanatics put that billboard up saying he should start over Kyle Orton, Tebow had no problems stoking that fire and throwing Orton under the bus with the fans. Then there is the story about Tebow going to Jacksonville this week. I have no doubt in my mind Tebow asked out of the Wildcat yesterday because thats the stuff he has done before. Dude is an egomaniac.
 

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No. None at all :aicmon:

It's as if you're expecting it from others because the settings differ. (Tebow isnt a captain....Tebow wasnt in Miami in the middle of a game.....so?). You expect it from no player, bottom line.

Tebow doesn't have a C on his chest. He didn't do it in the middle of a game. Pack2 expects a player without the title and outside of Miami to behave that way now.

:heh:
 

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why wouldnt he?

last year when those Tebow fanatics put that billboard up saying he should start over Kyle Orton, Tebow had no problems stoking that fire and throwing Orton under the bus with the fans. Then there is the story about Tebow going to Jacksonville this week. I have no doubt in my mind Tebow asked out of the Wildcat yesterday because thats the stuff he has done before. Dude is an egomaniac.

Not a chance in hell in my opinion.

Tebow gets the benefit of the doubt a lot more than this clown show franchise. I know everyone wants Tebow to turn heel and get dirt....but I just dont see it in this case. This is all CYA from the Jets when they dump him in two weeks....and they're clearly annoyed his agent leaked the Jaguars rumors.
 

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It's as if you're expecting it from others because the settings differ. (Tebow isnt a captain....Tebow wasnt in Miami in the middle of a game.....so?). You expect it from no player, bottom line.

Tebow doesn't have a C on his chest. He didn't do it in the middle of a game. Pack2 expects a player without the title and outside of Miami to behave that way now.

:heh:
You're putting words in my mouth when I never SAID that at all.

Neither you nor I know how Tebow behaved this week. We are going off the infamous "source" for this "story".....I don't really know if I believe this story 100% but if it is true, I can understand the reaction by Tebow...not a pass and not at all like the shyt we witnessed in Miami last year from a player who was voted a Captain by his teammates.
 

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agreed, but like i said if sanchez is gonna be benched and he's the [URL=http://www.the-coli.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=2]#2 [/URL] , they skipped right over him, i'd be pissed too

Gave my mans Tebow that Fredo treatment :ortiz:

Tebow: I'm the #2 quarterback, Sanchez, and I was stepped over!

Sanchez: That's the way Rex wanted it.

Tebow: It ain't the way I wanted it! I can handle Cover 2 defenses! I'm smart! Not like everybody says... like dumb... I won a playoff game and I want respect!
 

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Not a chance in hell in my opinion.

Tebow gets the benefit of the doubt a lot more than this clown show franchise. I know everyone wants Tebow to turn heel and get dirt....but I just dont see it in this case. This is all CYA from the Jets when they dump him in two weeks....and they're clearly annoyed his agent leaked the Jaguars rumors.
I dont know why you give him the benefit of a doubt since Tebow has shown he can do this before.

Im not saying the Jets cant be snakes here, but Tebow has shown he can do this.
 

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I dont know why you give him the benefit of a doubt since Tebow has shown he can do this before.

Im not saying the Jets cant be snakes here, but Tebow has shown he can do this.

Tebow's inner workings or whatever arent even close to what Tannenbaum has done over the past few years.

There's zero doubt this is being leaked by the Jets imo. I've seen it first hand....I know you what Tebow to look like the selfish guy here....which is fine....but this is all Mike Tannenbaum trying to save his own ass.
 

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You're putting words in my mouth when I never SAID that at all.

Neither you nor I know how Tebow behaved this week. We are going off the infamous "source" for this "story".....I don't really know if I believe this story 100% but if it is true, I can understand the reaction by Tebow...not a pass and not at all like the shyt we witnessed in Miami last year from a player who was voted a Captain by his teammates.

You are saying that. You're using ones stripes and rank to say one shouldn't step out of line and one lower in rank it should be expected from.

DUMB. Neither should.
 

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I still don't see what the Jets organization did that was SO wrong in this whole situation... they traded for Tebow, in large part due to them wanting to make a splash, but they also thought he could help them win football games... he comes into camp and they find out that he's terrible, so when Sanchez gets pulled, they go with a guy who presumably has been outperforming Tebow in practice all season

I actually have respect for the Jets (as a Fins fan, that hurt to admit) for sticking to their guns and letting a guy's play determine whether or not he got snaps... they traded picks for him, they had every incentive in the world to play him... especially Rex Ryan, who was (and still is) on the hot seat, so if he legitimately thought Tebow gave him the best chance to win football games and possibly save his job, why wouldn't he do it? Not to mention the extra attention the Jets would receive in the media by starting Tebow (which was partly the reason they traded for him in the first place).

Is there any evidence at all that Rex Ryan told Tebow he'd be the starter at any point and reneged on his promise? Like someone said, Tebow was the 3rd stringer in Denver last year and leapfrogged Brady Quinn, so how is this situation THAT much different to where Tebow's actions are justified?


I don't care about Tebow refusing to run a bs wildcat package! Rex is an idiot.
 

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Tebow's inner workings or whatever arent even close to what Tannenbaum has done over the past few years.

There's zero doubt this is being leaked by the Jets imo. I've seen it first hand....I know you what Tebow to look like the selfish guy here....which is fine....but this is all Mike Tannenbaum trying to save his own ass.
Of course the Jets leaked this, why would Tebow want this story out there? The point isnt about who leaked this but instead whether Tebow did this. It is certainly plausible that Tebow actually did this.
 

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You are saying that. You're using ones stripes and rank to say one shouldn't step out of line and one lower in rank it should be expected from.

DUMB. Neither should.
Arguing with your teammates on the field and quitting on your team in the middle of a game, as a captain and the team mismanaging your situation and playing time all year until you get fed up with not playing is the same thing to you?

Neither should be expected or acceptable but they are not anywhere near the same circumstances. One is a lot more understandable than the other IMO
 

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Arguing with your teammates on the field and quitting on your team in the middle of a game, as a captain and the team mismanaging your situation and playing time all year until you get fed up with not playing is the same thing to you?

Neither should be expected or acceptable but they are not anywhere near the same circumstances. One is a lot more understandable than the other IMO

Screw the "one is more understandable than the other" bs. Prior to Holmes screaming, I was on twitter saying "why do they have Holmes running dummy routes all game?" ....then the insubordination started.

Wrong is wrong. Here you are getting caught up on the "who, what, and where" of it and I'm saying, in sports, no one gave a fukk unless its "Tebow."


NOPE!!!
 

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Screw the "one is more understandable than the other" bs. Prior to Holmes screaming, I was on twitter saying "why do they have Holmes running dummy routes all game?" ....then the insubordination started.

Wrong is wrong. Here you are getting caught up on the "who, what, and where" of it and I'm saying, in sports, no one gave a fukk unless its "Tebow."


NOPE!!!
I don't even care for Tebow though. I literally have no dog in the fight and I most definitely view those acts of insubordination differently.

The Jets completely mismanaged the Tim Tebow situation and while I may not think it was handled properly by Tebow, I can fathom it more so than I can fathom quitting on the field in the middle of a game as team captain
 
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