so if Jesus is "GOD"

[Lamar Givens]

There are literally thousands of religions i do not see how yours is more legitimate than others. You are not gonna convince me that Christianity is real and i am not gonna change your mind about your belief. There really is no point in continuing with this discussion because we will just end up going back and forth.

My goal is not to convince you of Christianity. My goal is to demonstrate if you are going to talk about TRUTH then it must coincide with LOGIC.

Something cannot be true and at the same time false breh. This is the foundation of basic logic.

Therefore one religion must be true and the others by logic must be false. Logic breh!

Christianity out of all other world religions is the most internally consistent. If it is not then it would be ABSOLUTELY easy to discredit.

No one on this thread has provided one shred of objective evidence to discredit Christianity. The only thing they have done is thrown insults and their own bias assumptions.

1. Disprove the resurrection of Jesus Christ objectively.
2. Falsify the miracles that Jesus performed.
3. Demonstrate Jesus is not who he said he is.

Saying the authors of Scripture are fake, not real, or lying is not a VALID argument.

 

[Everythingg]

Bro

Modern christianity is a white man's creation. Thats why they named the ship that brought blacks to this side of the world after their god, Jesus.

 

[Everythingg]

If it is a white man's religion how is it that you have Messianic Jews in Israel (Jerusalem) who lived by the Torah as well as the New Testament?

The people you're referring to are white breh It doesnt matter if they lie and call themselves Jews, they're not..

How is it that you fail to grasp the basic historical TRUTH that Judaeo-Christianity was in AFRICA hundreds of years before any cac showed up.

Even though cacs were in Africa BEFORE christianity even existed?

Did you fail or even pay attention in your history classes. If you have traveled the world and been overseas to Jerusalem you will see that not one trace of cac influence has been infiltrated in the HOLY LAND. I'm sorry breh, but you do not have the slightest idea of what you are talking about.

You dont see all those fakeJews over there? Or let me guess.. Revelation 2:9 isnt talking about the cacs over there pretending to be Jews?

P.S. trying to attack the legitimacy of me being black is just another failed attempt of grasping at straws breh.

Is there a reason I should KNOW you're black when you havent said so to me? I should automatically ASSUME your black because....?


I dont know you breh. So how am I going to know whether your black white or asian?

 

[Everythingg]

Well, unfortunately, you are brainwashed into your belief. Debate cannot happen because you remain firm in believing 1+1 = 34. Therefore, a rational discourse is not able to happen. You continue to shout what some idiot has brainwashed you with, but have not provided ONE DOCUMENTED SINGLE SOURCE FOR YOUR NONSENSE...but we're waiting for you to provide some empirical evidence...

What source have you provided? None right?

You're making excuses breh. I dont have to prove the name isnt "Jesus" when there was no "J" when the person you call "Jesus" existed. Point blank period. So when Peter said there is ONE name that people are saved by, that doesnt mean every name man chooses to "translierate" the original name to. It means that the name he stated in the language he spoke, is the name that people are saved by. Heck, Hebrew names mean something. But Iesous means nothing and same for "Jesus". . But you ducked that with your false intellectual superiority spiel and wont address that even though I've said this three times now lol

Then you talk about "sources" as if you have presented any for what you've said. So in all things, you're simply ducking out because you have no rebuttals to what I've said. Just false superiority and smilies... Too bad that does NOTHING for your salvation though...

 

[TransJenner]

Modern christianity is a white man's creation. Thats why they named the ship that brought blacks to this side of the world after their god, Jesus.

You don't understand that most "Christians" aren't even real Christians



It's not about going to church , it's not about how much you can please you're god


It's about having a personal relationship, keep in mind I'm nothing like your stereotypical Christian person ,


And Jesus was against Religion

 

[OG_StankBrefs]

@ da levels of stupidity & gullibility being put on display up in hea.

 

[Lamar Givens]

What source have you provided? None right?

You're making excuses breh. I dont have to prove the name isnt "Jesus" when there was no "J" when the person you call "Jesus" existed. Point blank period. So when Peter said there is ONE name that people are saved by, that doesnt mean every name man chooses to "translierate" the original name to. It means that the name he stated in the language he spoke, is the name that people are saved by. Heck, Hebrew names mean something. But Iesous means nothing and same for "Jesus". . But you ducked that with your false intellectual superiority spiel and wont address that even though I've said this three times now lol

Then you talk about "sources" as if you have presented any for what you've said. So in all things, you're simply ducking out because you have no rebuttals to what I've said. Just false superiority and smilies... Too bad that does NOTHING for your salvation though...

1. I provided for you the Hebrew name for Jesus as well as the Greek name for Jesus. That is a source. (You have demonstrated you don't know what a source is).

2.You continue to say over and over again that the name is incorrect, but not once have you provided or stated what name Peter was referring to since it appears you solely posses the hidden name, and no one else knows it but you.

3.The only thing you have provided in these threads is gross misinformation about history and your ignorance about language.

4. are you kidding me. I provided you a source when I gave you the Hebrew language transliteration for Yeshua as well as the Greek transliteration for Iseous/ Yeshua being translated Jesus.

Source (Oxford Dictionary)
1.A place, person, or thing from which something originates or can be obtained:

1.2 A person who provides information:

This is something I have done throughout this entire thread, and you have not.

1.3 A book or document used to provide evidence in research:

Since you posses all the secret knowledge, and all the hidden wisdom grace us with the name that Peter was referring to when he said ONE name given under heaven by which men can be saved. We're waiting...

 

[Everythingg]

You don't understand that most "Christians" aren't even real Christians



It's not about going to church , it's not about how much you can please you're god


It's about having a personal relationship, keep in mind I'm nothing like your stereotypical Christian person ,


And Jesus was against Religion

I understand that breh. But the way it looks, if you dont believe in following the Torah like the One you call "Jesus" did, then I dont see how you're looking at it right.

And if you cant see that blacks are the lost Israelites according to Deuteronomy 28 then I dont see how you're looking at it right

And if you cant see that the original name of the One you call Jesus wasnt Jesus, and that the name "Jesus" came from a certain group, in a certain area, just like the letter J itself, and you hold the same beliefs on "Jesus" that they do, and that they named a ship "Jesus" (the name they came up with?) which led certain blacks into captivity in the West then I dont see how you're looking at it right. And on and on I can go.

All that personal relationship stuff doesnt really matter if you're only going to take your faith at face/surface value when theres so much more to it than that...

 

[TransJenner]

I understand that breh. But the way it looks, if you dont believe in following the Torah like the One you call "Jesus" did, then I dont see how you're looking at it right.

And if you cant see that blacks are the lost Israelites according to Deuteronomy 28 then I dont see how you're looking at it right

And if you cant see that the original name of the One you call Jesus wasnt Jesus, and that the name "Jesus" came from a certain group, in a certain area, just like the letter J itself, and you hold the same beliefs on "Jesus" that they do, and that they named a ship "Jesus" (the name they came up with?) which led certain blacks into captivity in the West then I dont see how you're looking at it right. And on and on I can go.

All that personal relationship stuff doesnt really matter if you're only going to take your faith at face/surface value when theres so much more to it than that...

Jesus is a translation name

He's real name was likely Yeshua

 

[Everythingg]

1. I provided for you the Hebrew name for Jesus as well as the Greek name for Jesus. That is a source. (You have demonstrated you don't know what a source is).

Thats not a source breh. I dont care what cherrypicked definitions you have. A source is you linking to something that explains why what you say is true. You havent done that. You made a statement. Im not saying I have done that either, I havent. But I dont really care if you believe what I say or not. I know whats up and thats good enough for me. Maybe one day you will too..

2.You continue to say over and over again that the name is incorrect, but not once have you provided or stated what name Peter was referring to since it appears you solely posses the hidden name, and no one else knows it but you.

Matthew 7:6
"Do not give dogs what is holy; do not throw your pearls to pigs. If you do, they may trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you to pieces.

Plenty of people know the name because they read the bible and understand it. You dont because you follow the cac religion who tells you it was Iesous and Jesus and also tells you to not follow the Torah like he did

Its not about knowing the true name till you acknowledge what it isnt. But everytime I point out that Hebrew names meant something and that Iesous and Jesus do not in their respective languages, you duck it. So you dont care about knowing the true name if you cant even acknowledge the fake ones as fake. And you dont do this because since the beginning you have been treating this convo like a pissing contest. While I was treating it as one breh letting another know what he has come across in his SEARCH for the truth.

4. are you kidding me. I provided you a source when I gave you the Hebrew language transliteration for Yeshua as well as the Greek transliteration for Iseous/ Yeshua being translated Jesus.

Source (Oxford Dictionary)
1.A place, person, or thing from which something originates or can be obtained:

1.2 A person who provides information:

This is something I have done throughout this entire thread, and you have not.

1.3 A book or document used to provide evidence in research:

You posting information on its own isnt a source breh. If it is then me telling you its NOT the name is a source just as you telling me it IS the name "is a source"

Which is ridiculous of course.

Since you posses all the secret knowledge, and all the hidden wisdom grace us with the name that Peter was referring to when he said ONE name given under heaven by which men can be saved. We're waiting...

One more time for the "we"

Matthew 7:6
"Do not give dogs what is holy; do not throw your pearls to pigs. If you do, they may trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you to pieces.

 

[Everythingg]

Jesus is a translation name

He's real name was likely Yeshua

No its not because it means nothing. Yeshua doesnt mean anything either. So how could it be a "translation name" when the original name held a meaning that the translation names do not?

WITHOUT MENTIONING that when you go to another country, your name is still your name. You dont go to Spain and tell them your mom named you Grande hijo de Jose... You say its Big Johnson and force THEM to pronounce your name. This is even more important when Peter says that there is ONE name people are saved by.

But I guess all that "personal relationship" stuff goes out the window...

 

[TransJenner]

No its not because it means nothing. Yeshua doesnt mean anything either. So how could it be a "translation name" when the original name held a meaning that the translation names do not?

WITHOUT MENTIONING that when you go to another country, your name is still your name. You dont go to Spain and tell them your mom named you Grande hijo de Jose... You say its Big Johnson and force THEM to pronounce your name. This is even more important when Peter says that there is ONE name people are saved by.

But I guess all that "personal relationship" stuff goes out the window...

I don't think God cares if we're saying his name wrong


Gods not some angry old man in the sky like "oh they don't know my real name they're going to hell"

Like I said it's all about a personal relationship, ever since I started praying and believing my life has been insanely awesome , I don't have no worries or anything , not saying I'm not going to have one , when it comes down to the core of following Jesus he wants you to treat everyone the way you wanna be treated and to follow the commandments , it's not hard at all , you gotta focus on the core message and see what the Bible is trying to get outta you

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

And Jehovah isnt the true name of the Most High.

Prove it..........
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They were celebrating pagan holidays on or around the date before he "legitimately" came up with the Dec 25th date.

Which means absolutely nothing since Hebrews were notoriously resistant to pagan influences as proven through archaeology and extensive documentation.

Also, the first Christians WERE devout Hebrews......​

 

[Everythingg]

I don't think God cares if we're saying his name wrong


Gods not some angry old man in the sky like "oh they don't know my real name they're going to hell"

Like I said it's all about a personal relationship, ever since I started praying and believing my life has been insanely awesome , I don't have no worries or anything , not saying I'm not going to have one , when it comes down to the core of following Jesus he wants you to treat everyone the way you wanna be treated and to follow the commandments , it's not hard at all , you gotta focus on the core message and see what the Bible is trying to get outta you

If its about a personal relationship, why wouldnt you seek to call Him what He told Moses to call Him instead of calling Him what man chose for you to call Him (God/Jesus/Lord etc...)?

 

[TransJenner]

If its about a personal relationship, why wouldnt you seek to call Him what He told Moses to call Him instead of calling Him what man chose for you to call Him (God/Jesus/Lord etc...)?

Enlighten me if what I'm suppose to call him