So If AEW Doesnt Have Any Stars, Then Who Are All These Stars That Are In The WWE?

[Homeboy Runny-Ray]

john cena wasn't really a star like that either.

he was just the main cog being pushed by the WWE machine.

if anything, he drove people away from the product.

 

[NYChase718]

Yeah, I don't keep up with wrestling anymore but these Friday Night Smackdown! promos on FOX are promoting former stars like the Rock, Stone Cold, etc.


Has a causal like myself like, who are the current stars :confusedswaggy:

They also had 2 shows
Legends of wrestlemania
And smackdowns greatest hits

And the smackdown greatest hits was showin stuff from 1999 and 2000s hardly anything of current

 

[Chris Cool]

I was actually shocked to learn recently that Seth has the lowest rated segments

That’s crazy! With the way they push him.

So it’s like, when people be like “AEW, ROH, IMPACT, etc have no star power.”

Well hell, neither does WWE in this day and age

I've been saying it for years. All 3 of them shield dudes were mid carder at best. When Punk left and DB got injured that shyt left a huge main eventer void and they been non-stop pushing midcarders since.

Then the starts they do have they ruin it. Brock been stale for years now. Had the hottest shyt going with the Hardys and completely dropped the ball. And like @Homeboy Runny-Ray said, all the others got downgraded. Styles was red hot a few years ago, now he's a midcarder.

 

[Toe Jay Simpson]

WWE set the product up to the be the draw after Austin & Rock left and became totally independent of their system. They were, and in many ways (Flair,Hogan) still used to having their legends jump on command

 

[8WON6]

the bullet club cats were recently in sports illustrated not long before they left NJPW.

being in sports illustrated doesn't mean much in 2019.

outside of Jericho there's a huge drop off. I'll be glad when the rest of yall come back down to earth and stop trying to elevate AEW to the equivalent to WWE right now. They are not, they have some building to do. They still need to have their "Hogan" jumping ship to AEW moments. Ambrose was and is average at best and nikkas quickly stopped giving a fukk about him on here. AEW Dynamite was okay last night, I saw no real flaws. They have building to do. They are automatically #2 in the US. But yall need to stop talking about them in relation to WWE, they're not there yet.


but yeah, AEW doesn't have any stars outside of Jericho. I feel like when I say something like this, some of you see "fukk AEW".

 

[Reality Check]

Just a talking point of the few that Vince still has brain washed. Before I'm called a mark, before last night I had never watched a young bucks or Kenny Omega match but I do know it wasn't that long ago that they were some of the most sought after talent in the business but now AEW lacks star power.

To add onto this, here is the rumored details of trying to sign Cody/Hangman Page/Omega/Young Bucks:

What was on the table? According to the WON, Page was offered main roster money to go to NXT, where he would have been promoted as one of the black-and-yellow brand’s top acts. The Bucks would have made the same amount AJ Styles makes, debuted at Royal Rumble and been the focus of a “significant storyline” on the road to WrestleMania 35. A weekly WWE Network version of Being The Elite was in the plans, and Dave Meltzer wrote the deal had a six month out clause should the Jacksons not like how things were going in WWE - something he’d “never heard WWE concede on” prior.

WWE’s reported offer to Young Bucks sounds almost too sweet to turn down

Yea, I highly doubt they are rolling out these kind of options to everyone, especially the 6 month out-clause.

 

[Lootpack]

Yeah, I don't keep up with wrestling anymore but these Friday Night Smackdown! promos on FOX are promoting former stars like the Rock, Stone Cold, etc.


Has a causal like myself like, who are the current stars :confusedswaggy:

Facts, I damn sure ain't dropping something on my to-do list to catch Seth Rollins on TV

 

[Osmosis]

There are no current stars in wrestling. Cena was the last star (you can make an argument for Punk).

 

[Chris Cool]

There are no current stars in wrestling. Cena was the last star (you can make an argument for Punk).

Pre retire Brian and Jeff Hardy can get arguments as well.

 

[ExodusNirvana]

speaking on AEW on it's own, no they don't have any stars outside of Jericho.

Breh Kenny and the Bucks TURNED VINCE DOWN

Kenny Omega has been a star for the past 3-4 years easily

 

[8WON6]

Breh Kenny and the Bucks TURNED VINCE DOWN

THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE THREAD.

 

[ExodusNirvana]

THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE THREAD.

Sure it does

Kenny Omega is a star, as is Jericho, and The Young Bucks

The only reason they aren't all prominently featured is because it would be poor form to make ANY of the Elite be the faces of the company

Kenny, The Bucks, Cody, Brandi, and Page will have wins...but it would be shyt booking to make them champs or super over because there's an entire roster of people that need to be pushed for the company to maintain viability.

 

[FooFighters]

WWE set the product up to the be the draw after Austin & Rock left and became totally independent of their system. They were, and in many ways (Flair,Hogan) still used to having their legends jump on command

Vince learned his lesson after Brock and Lashley

 

[Champagne Kudo]

WWEs only real stars are Brock and Ronda. And I could see an argument for the women's division as whole as compared to AEW but these old nikkas don't really mean much. Especially as far as conversation about a weekly show goes. Hogan, Austin and them won't save wwe ratings in the long run if they continue to decline bc ultimately they appearance only amount to quick nostalgia promos.

Atleast AEW is gonna give guys the freedom and opportunity to make themselves something without WWE breathing down they neck. A lot of ppl on Twitter was going crazy over that Darby Allin Skateboard spot. Stuff like that helps towards getting him and AEW names out there and would never be allowed to happen in WWE. I couldn't even see something off the cuff and randomly like "a Lil bit of the bubbly" being allowed to happen in wwe. These are the same nikkas who had the RKO outta nowhere meme fall into they laps only to make a shirt for it after it was all said and done.

 

[Bryan Danielson]

Vince learned his lesson after Brock and Lashley

If Vince really learned his lesson, he BEEN booked Brock and Lashley.

Whether any other wrestling company or MMA companies like UFC and Belletar. They would’ve BEEN booked them for a match.

Matter fact instead of having old legends, Brock beat up Rey for no reason or Lashley taking Lana for no reason.

If he really wanted to make a statement, he should’ve booked those 2 to fight in one of the premier shows vs all this other crap