So how is Kendrick as a technical rapper (Post examples)?

[JOHN.KOOL]

 

[JOHN.KOOL]

 

[JOHN.KOOL]

If you dont rate kendrick after the select tracks i have posted then your just an ignorant hater

 

[Stone]

obscure references don't make you dope....just want to throw that in there.

 

[JOHN.KOOL]

Just like with naS, show me some great lyrics... until then (which no one has EVER done for naS) he's K dot Minaj

I know i shouldnt get annoyed by peoples opinions but real talk fukk this nikka

 

[intilectual recipricol]

obscure references don't make you dope....just want to throw that in there.

nah, but when you can put it in there and it works whether or not the listener gets it, it does make you nicer than someone who cant... just want to throw that in there...

 

[mobbinfms]

right. And some are MUUUUUCH better than others. Thats how IWW takes uncontrollable shyts on illmatic. Thats how Jay is lightyears ahead of naS lyrically.

"down 4 whateva/aint nuthin nyce" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "stabbin bytches like the phantom"

its not even worth having a debate over, and those two lines are a microcosm of the larger debate...

We can agree that all lyrics are not equal.
The rest is just your opinion. Your supposed microcosm is a false premise.

 

[mobbinfms]

“Keisha’s Song (Her Pain)” is the ideological sequel to “Tammy’s Song (Her Vice).” The song, which can also be seen as the modern-day version of “Brenda’s Got a Baby,” reveals the root of Section.80’s insecurities. The track tells the story of a young prostitute named Keisha. The opening hook represents the outsider’s view of the 80s generation. “Fancy girls on Long Beach Boulevard, flagging down all of these flashy cars.” Keisha is just another whore, a face in the crowd and a piece of a homogeneous collective. But Lamar soon establishes her individuality and specific struggle. He describes the way in which she uses makeup to make herself presentable to her customers who constantly demean her. In spite of this, she is solely dependent on them for her survival and allows them to continue to abuse her as a result. It’s a direct representation of Section.80’s complex relationship with the previous generation currently in power.

Keisha soon spots a new customer waiting for her in his car. This sets up the most provocative line of the song. “In her heart she hate it there, but in her mind she made it where nothing really matters, so she hit the back seat. Rosa Parks never a factor when she making ends meet.” Here Lamar boldly targets what many believe to be the greatest group of black Americans in history; the civil rights generation. Lamar believes that at some point there was a disconnect and a failure to transfer the feelings of pride and self-worth from one generation to the other. The self-worth is meaningless when the new generation is placed in a situation in which they must demean themselves in order to survive.

The line focuses on specific subgroups within both the previous generation and Section.80; blacks who gained privilege through assimilation and blacks born into poverty and desolate conditions. Lamar believes that many members of the civil rights era abandoned those who were unable to attain the same opportunities. Instead of establishing a plan for the next generation to prosper mentally and economically, they focused on joining the same power structure responsible for oppressing their own people. It’s Lamar’s way of pointing out the failure of the older generation to teach the young and the younger generation’s failure to reach the levels of self-respect and ability to stand in the face of adversity of the old.

As the song continues, Lamar begins to sympathize with Keisha, showing how she was never exposed to a better way of life because of her lack of opportunities. “Sometimes she wonder if she can do it like nuns do it. But she never heard of Catholic religion or sinners’ redemption.” Lamar then explicitly points out the people responsible for Keisha’s downfall. “You can blame it on her mother for letting her boyfriend slide candy under her cover. Ten months before she was ten he moved in and that’s when he touched her. This muthafukka is the fukking reason why Keisha rushing through that.” A moment of moral corruption from an authority figure altered her life forever, again representing the relationship between the previous generation and Section.80. The fact that he molested her is a testament to how badly Lamar believes the power structure violated our generation. The boyfriend’s actions indirectly lead to Keisha’s demise which Kendrick describes in the track’s conclusion.

“She hit the backseat, and caught a knife inside the bladder, left her dead, raped in the street, Keisha’s song.” When you listen, pay close attention to the way Kendrick delivers his final verse. He slowly builds up his vocal intensity until it explodes in a violent outburst of emotion when he gasps out “Keisha’s song,”sounding as if he’s holding back tears. It’s as powerful of a moment as you’ll ever hear in any form of music. Kendrick finally closes the song, assuring the listener that he won’t fail the generation that follows him the same way the previous generation did to Section.80. “My little sister eleven, I looked her right in the face, the day that I wrote this song, set her down and pressed play.” This is the song that convinced me that Kendrick is the best rapper alive.

Well done. @intilectual recipricol @the rhyme king do you have a retort?

 

[mobbinfms]

nah, but when you can put it in there and it works whether or not the listener gets it, it does make you nicer than someone who cant... just want to throw that in there...

I agree - but utilizing this technique sparingly would not make you nicer than someone who doesn't (as a rule). If everything Jay said was cloaked in double meaning that wasn't readily apparent - that would be different.

 

[HideoKojima]

He's more a story teller, nikka gets his Da Art of storytellin' on this joint. Chills. Straight bodies Jay E

He does extended metaphors a lot. He's just a really good story teller dont expect double aunt andres and stuff. His delivery helps too. He sticks to the basics. His enunciation and accentuation helps drive his lyrics. Plus the themes in his songs are dope. Good Kid Maad city is probably one of the best concept albums.ever. period.

 

[the rhyme king]

Efficient in what sense?
Prolific is a non factor for me. Lil B is prolific.

efficent in being able to put words together that rhyme all the time on a consistent basis and make sense while doing it

 

[intilectual recipricol]

We can agree that all lyrics are not equal.
The rest is just your opinion. Your supposed microcosm is a false premise.

Okay fine, "stabbin bytches like the phantom" is equal to a "down for whatever/aint nuthin nice" hidden meaning and all...

You dont really believe that do you? one is a generic line that any ol numbskull can come up with and would be a throw away line while one is something that you couldnt even catch...

 

[the rhyme king]

obscure references don't make you dope....just want to throw that in there.

yup it's making sense with those lines that makes it dope though

 

[mobbinfms]

efficent in being able to put words together that rhyme all the time on a consistent basis and make sense while doing it

Are you sure efficient is the right word for what you're describing?

 

[the rhyme king]

Well done. @intilectual recipricol @the rhyme king do you have a retort?

well for one none that emotion stuff or anything like that makes u lyrical for me lyrical means these things
and i never said k dot was not lyrical for the record i think he is a great talent.

1. intricate rhyme patterns
2. metaphors
3. wordplay
4. punchlines
5. hooks
6. content